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Andrew NDB 01-15-2025 05:15 PM

Overrated movies & TV shows?
 
I've got some:

* The Batman.

* Smallville.

* All those NCIS/Law & Order Shows. All of them.

* Grey's Anatomy. It SUCKS.

* 4Kids TMNT cartoon.

ToTheNines 01-15-2025 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002490)
* 4Kids TMNT cartoon.

Damn dude. The dick riding of this show over at the TMNT subreddit is almost as bad as it is for Last Ronin.

I have love for the show because I was still a youngster when it came out, but these MFs act like it’s The Wire or something. It’s a competent children’s action show but that’s it. They pulled a lot of punches (literally and figuratively) and BUTCHERED several Mirage stories.

Again, I like it and have nostalgia for that era but people gotta take it off the pedestal.

TheUltimateBum 01-15-2025 05:56 PM

Stuff like Superman: The Animated Series and Spectacular Spider-Man get so much praise and yet, they just annoyed me. There are better shows with these characters, and yet they don't get enough attention.

ToTheNines 01-15-2025 07:16 PM

Off the top of my head:

Thor: Ragnarok. It was like if SNL had a big budget for a Thor episode. And conversely, it drives me nuts when people act like Thor: The Dark World was bad… it’s by far the best Thor film not counting any Avengers stuff.

Forrest Gump. Laughably bad.

The Polar Express. Maybe I hate Tom Hanks?

The Irishman. Get of Scorsese’s nuts. It stunk!


This is my big one: Scarface. Such a boring, corny, dogshit movie. People think it’s badass though. I don’t get it.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateBum (Post 2002494)
Stuff like Superman: The Animated Series and Spectacular Spider-Man get so much praise and yet, they just annoyed me. There are better shows with these characters, and yet they don't get enough attention.

Guilty lol. Love them both.

Andrew NDB 01-15-2025 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002498)
Forrest Gump. Laughably bad.

C'mon, man.

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This is my big one: Scarface. Such a boring, corny, dogshit movie. People think it’s badass though. I don’t get it.
Maybe it's much cooller to like it when you're like 19, 20 and maybe eons ago now, but it's still a damn cool movie. Even if it makes Colombians look not so great.

CyberCubed 01-15-2025 07:45 PM

Star Wars Andor is a big one. People were hailing it as not only the best Star Wars TV show Disney made, but one of the best pieces of media in Star Wars history. I found a lot of it kind of boring, Season 2 is coming out soon but I don't think it'll be any different.

There's a lot of big serious movies I found boring, like Oppenheimer is a big recent one. I mean I understand why it's "critically acclaimed" so to speak, but it's just not for me. A lot of other serious biopic movies based on real events I find really dull to sit through even when they're considered some of the best movies ever made.

Anarchistguy 01-15-2025 07:47 PM

My turn:

- 1994 Spider-Man cartoon
- 1987 TMNT cartoon
- Sonic SatAM and Sonic X
- Every modern crime show
- Modern Family

TheUltimateBum 01-15-2025 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002498)
Guilty lol. Love them both.

Yeah, I really didn't. I felt other shows did much better with the characters than those (the 50's Adventures of Superman show is pretty much what I consider the best Superman show, it's simple, but it has a likeable cast and really entertaining stories, and when I saw the 77 Spider-Man live-action show, I was more pleased than I thought I would be).

Mad Dog McMutt 01-15-2025 09:11 PM

I think 2001 A Space Odyssey is a very super overrated movie. I went into it expecting to be blown away, but what I got was boredom. Don't even get me started on that terrible super ambiguous ending.

Autbot_Benz 01-15-2025 09:21 PM

Christopher Nolan Batman movies. Everyone loves these movies but I just find Chris Nolan's Batman movies really boring. I hate realistic takes on Batman.

Zack Snyder's DC Movies. Very long overprentious nonsense. he doesn't get the DC heroes at all and it showed cause he got sacked after BVS .

sdp 01-15-2025 10:04 PM

TMNT movie 1990

Avatar the last Airbender

Batman TAS

They're good but the internet gets an erection talking about them. They aren't that great. Just above average kids media.

Super Mario Bros The Movie - I think people were just happy to see Mario done right. but at the end of the day it's not some classic movie, it's just a good Mario movie but there's not too much substance in there.


Batman Beyond might be getting a bit overrated but it's indeed great, especially if we don't count the JLU episodes/finale it gave the series, even as good as Return of the Joker is the show works better without it. They did mess up not having Blight show up at least one more time. I also really wanted that black girl to become Robin eventually.

Korra is ok, just a huge letdown. I don't think it's overrated, no one really talks about it. And when they do it's to defend it on why it's good.

ZariusTwo 01-16-2025 02:00 AM

TMNT 2012: Tryhard edgy plots and Dogs*it animation that makes anything from AKOM look like AKIRA

TMNT Mutant Mayhem/Tales of TMNT: Definitely two things people will look back on in a decade and cringe at ever liking.

Batman Beyond: First season is amazing, but they peaked when they wrapped up Blight's arc and then never used him again. There's one or two good ones after that in the next couple of seasons but the rest is just eh. I don't even think Return of the Joker is all that great or important, and the coda for the show in JLU was an absolute joke that retroactively made the whole thing worse.

Digimon isn't that great of a franchise. Adventure 01 and Tamers are it's only good series.

Transformers Prime: It's a Kurtzman production. 'Nuff said.

Korra: If it weren't for the existing fanbase for the far superior Avatar, as well as the lesbo pandering, this show would have been left best forgotten.

The Spider-Verse Movies: I like them, but they're above-average and I really only enjoy Peter B Parker, Miguel and Baby May in the whole thing. More interested in them than Miles and Gwen.

neatoman 01-16-2025 02:50 AM

I would say the Force Awakens... But after ten years I think people have largely accepted that it wasn't very good.

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 2002512)
I would say the Force Awakens... But after ten years I think people have largely accepted that it wasn't very good.

I’ll never watch it again, but I still maintain that it was a good time at the movies and it was nice to have Star Wars back. But it was only “good” based on the promise of Luke coming back for the sequel… and we all know now that went.

I can’t explain the embarrassment and frustration I felt sitting through The Last Jedi with my father. The man who took me to see the OT in 1997.


SAD!

drgon78 01-16-2025 06:21 AM

Some movies that come to mind...

Avatar movies
Avengers End Game
Barbie movie
Black Panther
Forest Gump
Inception
Joker
Pulp Fiction
The Blair Witch Project
The Hunger Games
The Lion King movies(all of them)
The Spiderverse movies
Titanic
Wicked

Some TV shows that come to mind...

30 Rock
Friends
Game of Thrones
Grey's Anatomy
How I met Your Mother
Lost
Modern Family
Seinfeld
Sex and The City
Stranger Things
The Big Bang Theory
The walking Dead
The Office
TMNT(anything after the 2012 series)
Two and Half Men

CyberCubed 01-16-2025 11:21 AM

There's nothing wrong with Batman Beyond, they were going for a Buffy vibe with stand-alone stories and problems with Terry's school or classmates over just making a bland superhero show in the future. I watch it every few years and it holds up.

Legend of Korra was criticized even when it aired, most people view it as a step down from Avatar. It has some solid seasons (1, 3 and 4), but they introduced way too many secondary characters and even most of the main cast are underused like Asami and the brothers. Tenzin was the only truly great character in the show.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2025 11:44 AM

I've always thought the idea of Batman Beyond was way cooler than maybe the reality of it.

I saw a few episodes when it first came out and found it pretty good, but I wasn't like swept away or anything.

ZariusTwo 01-16-2025 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002528)
I've always thought the idea of Batman Beyond was way cooler than maybe the reality of it.

I saw a few episodes when it first came out and found it pretty good, but I wasn't like swept away or anything.

Like I said in the post, first season is great, then they did away with the lead villain and everything became "monster of the week" with no real overarcing threat. There were still good episodes, but it was all self-contained and nothing led anywhere.

Return of the Joker was the first time since that first season where anything actually mattered. I was addicted to that film when it came out, but over time I just find it a passable two parter and not the ending the show deserved.

And DC keep screwing up the premise whenever they bring it back as a comic. At one point they killed Terry and Tim Drake was in the suit during the New 52 and they had to timewarp that out of existence.

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002499)
C'mon, man.

Dude watch it again. They just cram the nostalgia down your throat. New source music every 60 seconds. There’s some good humor and heartfelt moments but it’s a rough watch.

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 2002510)
TMNT 2012: Tryhard edgy plots and Dogs*it animation that makes anything from AKOM look like AKIRA

At least it had plots, unlike the Fred Wolf show lol. Also… the FW fanboy is talking about dogshite animation? What?

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Originally Posted by Anarchistguy (Post 2002501)
- Modern Family

First 3 seasons or so were great. It definitely fell off though. But I don’t judge sitcoms very harshly.

ZariusTwo 01-16-2025 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002535)
At least it had plots, unlike the Fred Wolf show lol.

Last I checked the FW toon has been the one selected for a full rerun on MyToonTV over all the ones with plots, must be doing something right?:roll:

FW had cheapo animation, big whoop, so did everything else not backed by Warner at the time. Doesn't mean the bar has to lowered twenty years later.

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 2002536)
Last I checked the FW toon has been the one selected for a full rerun on MyToonTV over all the ones with plots, must be doing something right?:roll:

Am I supposed to know what that is? :lol:

The 2012 show just got a posthumous tie-in console release, as well as Playmates re-issues last year... with a premium NECA line on the way. What's your point?

Nostalgia sells.

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FW had cheapo animation, big whoop, so did everything else not backed by Warner at the time. Doesn't mean the bar has to lowered twenty years later.
I think the 2012 show has great animation that still holds up 10+ years later and you can clearly tell the animators, art department, writers, etc. all put a lot of care into the final product.

I have a lot of love for the FW show, but you can't deny it was just hastily put together in almost every respect. Which in a way is part of its charm, I guess.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2025 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002540)
I have a lot of love for the FW show, but you can't deny it was just hastily put together in almost every respect. Which in a way is part of its charm, I guess.

The only real difference between the 4Kids show and Fred Wolf is that the 4Kids people at least somewhat pretended to listen to Peter Laird's notes occasionally -- barely -- and Fred Wolf never did.

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002541)
The only real difference between the 4Kids show and Fred Wolf is that the 4Kids people at least somewhat pretended to listen to Peter Laird's notes occasionally -- barely -- and Fred Wolf never did.

Lol, true.

My toy commercial is better than yours!

Coola Yagami 01-16-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002541)
The only real difference between the 4Kids show and Fred Wolf is that the 4Kids people at least somewhat pretended to listen to Peter Laird's notes occasionally -- barely -- and Fred Wolf never did.

Fred Wolf got notes? What were they? Turtles good. Shredder bad. Figure out the rest.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 2002547)
Fred Wolf got notes? What were they?

I vaguely remember something about them trying to "right the ship" with Fred Wolf but it was always just them hitting a brick wall.

Coola Yagami 01-16-2025 02:14 PM

"How big do you want April's boobs to be?"
"Yes".

FredWolfLeonardo 01-16-2025 02:36 PM

FW tmnt season 1 is overrated but the middle seasons are underrated.

CyberCubed 01-16-2025 04:12 PM

This thread needs to be locked. :lol:

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 2002551)
"How big do you want April's boobs to be?"
"Yes".

Haha

https://bleedingfool.com/wp-content/...ril-Oneil.webp

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 2002556)
FW tmnt season 1 is overrated but the middle seasons are underrated.

Seasons 3 and 7 are goat.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2025 06:38 PM

Now we're talking. :)

That reminds me, who was it who got banned from here because they went on a random rant about the pr0n April's pubic hair?

Coola Yagami 01-16-2025 08:32 PM

Wtf????? Where was I during this????

Andrew NDB 01-16-2025 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 2002568)
Wtf????? Where was I during this????

Here. It was only like a year ago, two, tops. I think it was a lady. Or sdp, when he was pretending to be one. I don't remember now.

ToTheNines 01-16-2025 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2002561)
This thread needs to be locked. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002564)
Now we're talking. :)

We are so back. It’s 2015 again.

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That reminds me, who was it who got banned from here because they went on a random rant about the pr0n April's pubic hair?
Haha damn. Someone needs to dig this up.

ZariusTwo 01-17-2025 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002540)
I think the 2012 show has great animation that still holds up 10+ years later and you can clearly tell the animators, art department, writers, etc. all put a lot of care into the final product.

You do you. This is the "overated" thread, so I don't see why you have to gatekeep and police my comment that TMNT 2012 is overrated. I didn't go after Anarchistguy who said FW was overrated

ToTheNines 01-17-2025 03:44 AM

I’m not gatekeeping. This is a discussion forum, so I’m discussing why you’re wrong lol.

ZariusTwo 01-17-2025 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 2002586)
I’m not gatekeeping. This is a discussion forum, so I’m discussing why you’re wrong lol.

I gave my opinion. You can disagree, but it doesn't convince me I'm wrong.

I consider TMNT 2012 overrated, per the subject of the thread, and that's all there is to it. I'm not interested in debating it.

ToTheNines 01-17-2025 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 2002588)
I gave my opinion. You can disagree, but it doesn't convince me I'm wrong.

I consider TMNT 2012 overrated, per the subject of the thread, and that's all there is to it. I'm not interested in debating it.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/da/8f...8d939211b7.jpg

MrPliggins 01-17-2025 07:36 AM

First thing that comes to mind is Spider-man: No Way Home. I enjoyed it, but a real plot was basically replaced by fan service. And all the talk of the old Spider-Men returning for more movies seems like overkill. They had their time. Maguire is like 50 now and Spider-Man is never 50. Let’s move forward.

ZariusTwo 01-17-2025 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPliggins (Post 2002598)
Spider-Man is never 50. Let’s move forward.

There was one short story in 2022 set in a future where Peter's still active as Spidey in his 60s.

ToTheNines 01-17-2025 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 2002571)
Here. It was only like a year ago, two, tops. I think it was a lady. Or sdp, when he was pretending to be one. I don't remember now.

I did some searching, but it was sdp. He got temp banned and the post was deleted, unfortunately.


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