For those in the U.S., how do you feel about food stampes (SNAP?)
 

There's been a lot of talk of the Trump administration either freezing Food stamps, reducing it, or even cutting it entirely. How do you feel about the food stamps (SNAP) program potentially ending, even if you don't use it?

Do old people, poor people, or foreigners deserve to have food stamp assistance to buy food?

GROSSLY abused. I know a bunch of people actively just selling their food stamps (that they don't even need) for money.

How do they get these stamps if they don't need them and why would someone be buying them if all they're used for is to get food?

They usually make juuuust low enough to qualify. But meanwhile they're already getting money from other things. And are you kidding? If someone wants to sell you $200 in food stamps for $50? That's a nice giant lobster night. Or two.

Most restaurants don't take food stamps. Food stamps are for actual groceries, and most of the time will not include pre-heated or prepared meals in there.

I don't think food stamps have any identifiable information, so if you have some, it's not like the grocery guy can tell it's not yours. So those assholes that sell em to other people are just running a scam for free money.

However, a lot of people actually do need food stamps and shouldn't lose them on account of the bad apples. That's like saying no one should be allowed to own a care since some people do hit and runs or drive drunk or whatnot.

Of course not. It's not for people taking their buddies for a nice dine out at Red Lobster. That would be nuts.

There is no actual "food stamps" and haven't been for decades. It's an EBT card that is like a debit card with your name on it and a pin number that gets reloaded every month on a certain day. But mostly these people will just go in the grocery store and buy what you want, they give it to you, and then you give them the cash so they can go buy their weed or worse.

Agreed. There just needs to be a WAY better system in place. I'm not even sure what it could be. Nothing is really stopping anyone from trading whatever they buy with the food stamp money for actual cash from people. I guess all that can really be done is make sure there is some kind of minimum work requirement or if they can't, then with definitive proof that they're disabled or if they've got mental issues, confirming that they're #1 real, and #2 irreparable, OR #3 that they're actively getting treatment for them (and I'm all for people with genuine mental issues getting the care and meds they need -- I am 100% OK with that being taxpayer funded) and not just cruising around doing whatever.

Isn't that exactly what the anti-gun people say about guns, though?

EBT is a bridge program. Not a lifestyle.

That's a version of what I used to tell my caseload of people when I was awarding Medical, TANF and EBT to the public as a Caseworker.

I'd answer this but..... ehhh. For so many reasons...

I've benefited from it before, so I think it's a good program. Many honest people could use assistance.

Can confirm, this is exactly what happens. Sadly, some people who need assistance still do this, because they'd rather get high than feed their kids.


They definitely need more oversight. Depending on your state and status, there may already be work requirements, and I know Goodwill is one of the places they send people, so it's a pretty low bar. I'd have to check to be sure, but I think the requirements are pretty lax for mothers, especially single mothers. That's how it should be, in theory, but it opens them up to a ton of abuse.

I'm fine with it if it's going to those who need it. There are, at least locally, restrictions on what can be purchased with it, though restrictions could probably be more tight to dissuade people spending it all on junk food.

People who actually want food buying them from people who are probably using the cash to buy drugs.

Though in some cases they may not have belonged to the seller at all and they maybe selling what was in a hacked account since some (most? all?) states do it as a debit card now.

ResidentEvil7 is not going to be a happy camper about this.

One day I will figure out how to become a welfare queen. I may have to start laundering my money from the IRS.

Just get a job paying you under the table and then you can reap the maximum monthly cash assistance AND the food assistance.

Seems like they blocked Trump from shutting down SNAP. I wonder how long that will last. I will be surprised if EBT is done away with. All those poor people and immigrants will become more of the homeless you see around and that's why we have government assistance. It's not to help people, it's to keep more homeless off the streets. It's bad enough almost every street corner has a homeless person.

Overall though poor people get our tax dollars.

More like, they are attempting to force Trump to dig into other monies that might be illegal to do so to keep people getting SNAP benefits. He's not shutting down anything, it's just running out of money. Like if you stop paying the power bill and then one day the lights go out... you're not "shutting down the power" it's just that the power coming in wasn't free.

I was also just looking at some pretty interesting stats. Apparently 52% of adult women on SNAP are obese, coupled with 37% of men who are also obese getting SNAP benefits.

Yeah, I notice the welfare queens are always the same fat black or hispanic women. Like if they were starving and had no food to eat, logically wouldn't they be real skinny and bony...and not like 300 pounds? I always wondered how they're so damn fat if they're on food stamps.

And this is not even counting the fact that most of them have like 5 or 6 kids because they can't be bothered to use protection. So they're sitting there wondering why they get pregnant and keep popping out babies and having more mouths to feed, and then sit there complaining they need more money to feed their families. And of course usually the man leaves the woman because they don't want no fat chick with 5 screaming kids so it's now a single mother by herself.

I do feel bad for the little kids, they really don't deserve this lifestyle because of the poor choices of the parents. The deadbeat dads who leave their kids and then either get arrested or killed or do drugs, and then the 300 pound mothers who look like they'll fall over any given moment.

Sounds like 2 judges put a pause on this. Hopefully this means the crazies won't be looting Walmart tomorrow like they threatened.


They got money, they're just refusing to touch it.

Oh, I'm not sure about that. I mean, there definitely are those, but there is a SEA of obese white women on said benefits. Most of them are still relaxing after the last "No Kings" (after arriving to it on their riding machines because they're too big to walk but still able to swing a "FASCISM!" sign). But apparently statistically it's mostly men on SNAP who are the mostly obese ones. But they apparently aren't as motivated to get out to the protests as the women. So we mostly think of the women. I don't really doubt that disparity, honestly.

Again, not that simple. Despite whoever is in your ear or pundit. There IS money "Around." But it's not clear if that can legally be allocated for something like food stamps vs. things like if there's a hurricane or earthquake and OMG, 10 million people need to be taken care of like NOW. Because if we put that to SNAP now then that money goes away. Two federal judges say it must (which kind of is equivalent to you can sue anything for anything, anytime), but there are other legal voices who are saying that's illegal to dip into these particular funds.

Just under half of those on SNAP are working anyhow, not “sitting on their asses”. 52% of those are single mums. Of the rest, the vast majority are retired, disabled, or children, so those often not in a position to work regardless.

It costs each American $36 per year to fund SNAP. It costs each American roughly $600 each per year to subsidise country wise company perks and tax incentives/breaks.

So maybe the actual solutions are reducing corporate subsidies and have them pay people better wages?

Because the cheapest food also tends to be the unhealthiest. Doesn’t matter how much or little you consume, in general if calories in exceeds calories out, you’re going to put on weight. And sugar (read HFCS here) is a bigger leader of fat gain than fat itself, but that’s biology 101.

Didn't they just give away millions to some other country. How bout don't and tend to your own country first.

There's money. Wether or not they want to use it is on them. Also that White House ballroom doesn't sound cheap.

Loan.

Privately funded.

Yeah cause we're gonna be seeing that money back any time soon.

Yes he bailed out Argentina with $20 Billion

MAGA (Make Argentina Great Again:lol:)

Actually another 20 Billion so 40 Billion total

https://apnews.com/article/trump-arg...1288999469f7fb

Argentina has defaulted on its debt 9 times. :lol:

Exactly. How bout make sure Americans don't stare before helping other countries that could care less about us and laugh at us when we're down?

What’s the real story here? I truly don’t care either way, but MAGA people say it’s privately funded and leftcucks are very adamant that it’s costing the American taxpayer a boatload of money.

Of course they'll say that, because these are "private" donors. If something nefarious was going on its not hard to follow the money if it was coming from government funds.

It’s basically a “donate to gain political favour” vanity project.

I mean, that’s the crux of American politics lol.

Obviously there are more altruistic things one could spend money on, but there’s way more nefarious sh*t going on in the world than Trump wanting to feel like a pretty princess. Seems like this is just the “current thing” to be outraged about and no one will remember it next year.

Are you kidding? People haven't forgotten about the wall, Stormy Daniels, him raping the girl at the beauty pageant (allegedly I guess?), the whole 'grab em by the pussy' line, the Proud Boys are 'such fine folks', J6. No one is forgetting none of that. Epecially if SNAP does go away. People will always look back and say he cared more about donating billions to Argentina and his dumbass ballroom than helping starving Americans.

He's just adding to the list. Just like his current denial of the Epstein list.

The problem is that people's morals have deteriorated to a level on which this kind of stuff doesn't matter to them. The agenda is more important.

That's a good thing.

Oh god, nobody cares about that, if it happened at all. They've been trotting that out forever and it's the most ridiculous thing ever.

Yes, yes, where the lady doesn't remember when it happened or even specifically what store (and who seems visibly insane in every media appearance). I'm sure that wasn't lawfare at all!

A great big nothing! He wasn't in politics when he said that and I'm sure nobody you know has ever said anything equally terrible at one point or another.

FAKE. He said there's SOME fine people on the side of the protesters in Charlottesville. He wasn't saying those were the Proud Boys or anyone specific.

For which he told everyone to remain peaceful and then to go home. Oh wow, so terrible! Clearly that was instructing an insurrection. :lol:

Oh, the propaganda wing of the left (AKA the media) is making sure of that. Probably some more J6 documentaries and such are coming up, no doubt. But it only is managing to wind up their existing base who crave more and more of that lunacy. I don't think they're managing to fool or really rope in anyone new, but I've been surprised before.

I mean, we know how much you love typing this over and over but let‘s be real here for a second: There has never been any positive coverage on Trump by reputable news outlets, conservative or left-leaning. At least not until the Gaza ceasefire deal. Actual journalists (not the scantily clad social media pundits some of you guys love) worldwide have been tearing Trump apart for more than a decade now. And with good reason.

Come on y’all. Watch this video and tell me you didn’t laugh. Be honest.



Partially. I think more than anything, it’s the ultimate failure of our two-party system.

Not only do people turn a blind eye to their sides wrongdoing, they absolutely relish every instance of the other side being angry at something. No matter how trivial or idiotic it is.

And now that the Gaza Ceasefire is over in all but name, he doesn't even deserve positive coverage for that.

Trump was funny for the memes and he was a tool to defeat the establishment. But he has long outlived his usefulness.

You mean like the ones from MSDNC? Totally un-biased journalists?

He brokered the deal. Why is it a reflection on him if Hamas can't help themselves but keep shooting at Jews in spite of it?

Trump says the Ceasefire is still in place and that Hamas leadership was not involved in any breaches. Don't you dare contradict your lord Trump and suggest the ceasefire has been broken.

EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND THERE IS PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

Don't forget that Trump said his half-assed ceasefire deal could mean 'eternal peace'.

I don't consider any American TV news outlets respectable news sources. Anything where clowns like Chris Matthews run their mouths is an immediate no-go.

OK. Fine. What are the names of some of the honest-to-goodness, totally objective and non-partisan journalists you're thinking of when you say "actual journalists"?

All the good ones got killed by the CIA.

I was in the grocery store today and ahead of me at the cash register was a black mother in her 40's (?) and her two young sons. She was talking to the cashier how her food stamps are gone and how her kids have to drink tap water. Her kids asked her for cookies and some fruit snacks and she said no because now they have to pay real money for good. :lol:

She was like, "Why the hell they gotta stop the food stamps? How am I gonna feed myself, my dog, and my two sons? My minimum wage job ain't going to cover it."

I guess people are already starting to hurt. Man all those lower income black and hispanic families will be screwed over the most.