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Machias Banshee 01-11-2004 08:46 PM

New Episode Discussion: 'Secret Origins!!!'
 
Whoo hoo!!! We are back, Baybee!!! :D

I return with New cartoon episodes! I swear they waited these three weeks cuz they wanted to see what i'd do for a teaser... :D

ANYWAYS!
*sings*
Let's Do the TimeWarpAgain!!!

Yes! The boys, fugitoid, the trikes and the Blank's soldier's are all getting zapped back onto Earth!

Dont you just love a family reunion? :D
With the Turtles, Splinter, April and Casey reunited, they will soon find out about how they came to be on this earth, universe, fishbowl, whatever!

This is YOUR Life!
Points to Anyone who remembers this skit on Sesame Street! :D


They will go back in time, seeing themselves go from their present teenage states, back to when they were just learning the martial arts, back to their childhood, back to their mutations, and even further, to what or Who created their lifespring of ooze.

Can things get any weirder? Heh, knowing the guys, and seeing what we know spoiler-wise, I dont doubt it one bit!

[Mods can comment as they please. I know a certain new mod who's been gnashing his teeth to do this for a Long time.. :D ]

GK Punk 01-11-2004 08:56 PM

Re: New Episode Discussion: 'Secret Origins!!!'
 
It's just a jump to the left.
(and then a step to the rrrrright)
Put yor hands on your hips!
And move your knees in tiiiight!
But it's the pelvic thrust!
That really drives you insssaaane!

Let's Do the TimeWarpAgain!!!

This has so much potential to be the best episode yet!
I just can't wait to see how they deal with shredders past.

Karpo_007 01-12-2004 04:51 AM

This will be the most interesting episode of Season 2 so far, Can't wait!

HorseTechie 01-16-2004 10:40 AM

*makes note to self to wake up in time*

Hubby better not start up a movie either! :evil:

GK Punk 01-16-2004 10:34 PM

Hit him with a kendo stick if he does :lol:
"NOW IS TURTLES TIME! *whack!*"

ThirdMarioBro 01-17-2004 09:02 AM

BOUT DAMN TIME!!!!!
I hate having to wait.


*ahem*

THAT WAS FREAKING AWESOME!!!!!

Machias Banshee 01-17-2004 09:03 AM

HOLEEE Shlotzskys!!!!! :o :D :o :D


That. Was. AMAZING!!!!


Gah, mikey got hurt!!!!!! :o :cry: :o :cry:

I"m totally speechless... At least we know part of the answer of Shredder now. He IS part evil Utrom.

Stefano 01-17-2004 09:03 AM

Uhh was that utrom shredder. Because i never liked that theory.

ThirdMarioBro 01-17-2004 09:04 AM

I actually do kinda like the theory...

X 01-17-2004 09:06 AM

Hmmm, that evil Utrom looks familiar...

All around it was a good episode. It didn't put the emphasis on action, so we got plenty of story in this episode. I thought Stockman would've been bigger, and who is he reporting to when he said "This is Stockman, phase 1 complete. Proceeding to phase 2?"

Can't wait for next episode.

-X-

Mulsis 01-17-2004 09:07 AM

It's not a theory anymore :) Two more weeks until we get the whole story :( This episode was awesome, though.

ThirdMarioBro 01-17-2004 09:07 AM

There is no relation between "him" and the evil utrom, okayyy?
Another question, who was Stockman talking to?

X 01-17-2004 09:08 AM

BTW, the whole Shredder being an Utrom didn't seem cool at first, but now it doesn't seem to bad after watching this episode.

-X-

Machias Banshee 01-17-2004 09:08 AM

READ CAREFULLY BEFORE RESPONDING!!!
 
well... its actually got me thinking. About this theory. Yeah, they had the evil utrom, but then they had that shredder figure that bashed Mike across the room. I'm thinking...


Shredder is not an utrom. An utrom is Shredder. Shredder lived centuries ago, and ends up meeting the evil utrom. they seem to get along with the aspect of killing the other utroms, and work a lil together, kinda like shredder and Baxter present time. What happens is, the evil Utrom learns from the shredder, maybe taking his memories or something. then, when he's strong enough, he destroys the true shredder, and fashions his suit and such to look like the shredder we know now.


Nifty... :D

X 01-17-2004 09:13 AM

To touch up on Banshees post. Maybe this will hit a full circle back to the original show, and Shredder is still in cahoots with this Utrom. That folks would make it like the old Shredder/Krang team-up. 8)

Anythings a possibility. Of course I'm not meaning it should be like the old show, but that being, it would have some similarities.

-X-

Keno 01-17-2004 09:16 AM

that was a VERY cool ending! them being in Feudal Japan!! Now Shredder can say he met them before. you know?

Stone Ill 01-17-2004 09:21 AM

Yeah, he sure can..

Mr. Snackpants 01-17-2004 09:22 AM

finally....

Splinter 01-17-2004 09:24 AM

Shredder can't say that he met them before. This is still a virtual reality simulation. Baxter just turned off the safeties and made it real. Well, we got some of our answers that were left from the first season. We know that Shredder's now an evil Utrom. And that they crashed in Feudal Japan and that's where he first rose to power and formed the original Foot Clan. Can't wait for next week, hopefully the Guardians make their apperance to stop the Foot Soldiers and send Shredder packing. As for who Baxter's talking too...hmm, tough call. We'll have to wait and see. :)

nimrod 01-17-2004 09:25 AM

As soon as I saw the evil utrom, I thought about him being that. We just don't know about the Shredder we saw today. I like the theory Banshee posted. But I think it's safe to say that the Shredder that we've seen before in the new toon is that evil utrom. So I'm now wondering if he actually put the armor over his human exoskeleton or if they are two completely separate bodies. I can't ever recall Shredder ever having his helmet off and seeing his human head underneath or anything like that.

Stone Ill 01-17-2004 09:27 AM

In one of the Shredder Strikes/Back episodes, he takes off his helmet while wearing the armour.

Maybe Baxter is making a note to himself?

utromx 01-17-2004 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nimrod
As soon as I saw the evil utrom, I thought about him being that. We just don't know about the Shredder we saw today. I like the theory Banshee posted. But I think it's safe to say that the Shredder that we've seen before in the new toon is that evil utrom. So I'm now wondering if he actually put the armor over his human exoskeleton or if they are two completely separate bodies. I can't ever recall Shredder ever having his helmet off and seeing his human head underneath or anything like that.

we saw him with his helmet off in theshredder strikes.

nimrod 01-17-2004 09:29 AM

Your right. Now that you said that I remember that.

Splinter 01-17-2004 09:30 AM

Shredder removes his helmet and shows his face in 'The Shredder Strikes pt. 2'. And from the design sketches, it says he puts the armor on over the regular suit. One more thing we got answered, why the Utrom Council speaks with a unified voice and none of the other Oots do. They're the three Navigators. :)

Taloniss 01-17-2004 09:30 AM

Good episode, even if it was a little light on the action this week. I don't mind a Utrom being Shredder, it actually explains alot, and it's a good method of keeping him alive for long amounts of time, plus ancient Shredder was wicked :D Was it just me, or was there more commercials than normal? Seems like every 5 minutes there was another break

"There is some sort of Lesson here, but I'm enjoying this too much to think what it is."

Jo Dawn 01-17-2004 09:36 AM

Ooh... I liked it! It was awesome! :o :D It's very interesting.

And poor Mikey, getting carsick, then getting hurt.

I can't wait for next week!

Demonfox38 01-17-2004 09:38 AM

KUDOS!! *gets kawaii-poisioning* :lol: Sensei's back!

I liked the Alien reference in the episode. "Wait, I've seen this movie before. Are aliens going to start popping out of our chests?"

I'm wired now!

Deathknight 01-17-2004 09:42 AM

The whole virtual reality thing kind of reminded me of the Matrix. Especially how Mikey gets hurt in it and it effects him in real life. Still a good episode although but it pisses me off that we had to wait a month for it.

Meira-Bates 01-17-2004 09:46 AM

The fact Mikey went down to that one punch kinda bothered me...did Baxter tweek the controlls that much? Or did someone forgot that the turtles have all fought with and taken hits from the Shredder before without being that wounded...AND the shell for goodness sakes. Ah well...I liked the episode, was very good after all that waiting. The Mikey stuff just kinda pissed me off... I really do hope they were trying to play it off as him making an attempt at humor... -.- I did like that scene with Mikey and the guy doing his sword katas though.

Heh I think I actualy got my dad to shut up for today. On that talk of laws between Mortu and Donny my mom teased me about how 'educational' the show was. Dad asked what the hell she was saying and she told him. He said it was more like a waste of time and money. She replied that it wasn't a waste of SOMEONE'S time and money because they were getting rich off of it. Then I said as calmly as possible so he couldn't think he'd pissed me off, "Yeah, and it's no more a waste than your John Wayne stuff and you don't see me saying anything about that....diffrent stuff just appeals to diffrent people." He actualy shut up O.o FINALLY. I think I did the impossible.

Demonfox38 01-17-2004 09:56 AM

More power to you. :lol:

My family & I take shots at each other all the time. Jokes directed at my mom usually envolve the Wizard of Oz, my dad & Simpsons, my sister & Buffy, and me & Star Wars/ Turtles. We've learned to accept each other--and poke fun at each other at the same time.

I love family jokes. :P

Jo Dawn 01-17-2004 10:03 AM

A bit off topic, but I didn't want to make a whole new thing for this:

Did anyone see the commercial about April? From the FoxBox files, like on the DVD? It was cool. Showed how she helps them out and all, saving them and her knowledge of gadgets. Seems she also helped with the Battle Shell, adding a few things. Putting her 'woman's touch' in it. :) How cute.

And Donnie narrated it. :D How fitting, I think...

tOkKa 01-17-2004 10:06 AM

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..unofficially.. :o .. i'm freaked out..













..but i'm thinkin'..as far as Shredder goes.. the secrets not in SAKI himself..

.. but in the Red Utrom ..& the Armour.. is that what everyone else is thinkin' ??

..Maybe Saki..is the 'host' of the Armor.. and the Armor in turn.. keeps Saki.. immortal.. maybe the red Utrom is 'one' with the armor.. like the other Utroms are one with whatever..




.. see ya later..navagators!!


..p.s. ..Krang ain't got nothin' on that red guy..

The Master Meglomaniac 01-17-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X
Hmmm, that evil Utrom looks familiar...

All around it was a good episode. It didn't put the emphasis on action, so we got plenty of story in this episode. I thought Stockman would've been bigger, and who is he reporting to when he said "This is Stockman, phase 1 complete. Proceeding to phase 2?"

Can't wait for next episode.

-X-

Warning this post has some spoilers.

If one looks at the descriptions of the upcomming episodes of the "City at War" storyline one would see it it is likely that Stockman is working for those mafia guys from "Lone Raph and Lone Cub."

PanMan 01-17-2004 10:16 AM

i can't believe i'm reading this! :roll:

everybody still is denying the fact that shredder is a utrom?!?!?!?!? are you guys that . . . blind? it was obviously him. he even had a helmet sort of thing on his utrom 'brain' body. if that wasn't a give away, i don't know what was. all he did was put the shredder suit on top of his exoskeleton (just like the first one did when he had the test run. the only difference is that shredder's 'disguise' was better).

and was it just me or was that shredder suit in the museum in "Darkness on the Edge of Town"?

oh, and for the record i kinda like the way this is heading :)

Splinter 01-17-2004 10:18 AM

I think we're over analizing the Saki aspect. There may be an actual Oroku Saki that the 'Evil Utrom' kills and takes his idenity. Perhaps he's not even a bad guy, we'll probably get our answers before things are finished. After all the first one answered a lot of questions. And we have two more episodes to go for our answers. And Part 3 has Shredder himself showing up. So I'm sure he'll rant off on several things to explain all these things. We'll probably learn that Hamato Yoshi was the decendant of a Guardian or actually was a Guardian himself. But from what I can tell so far, the Utroms never realized that Shredder is the Evil Utrom.

tOkKa 01-17-2004 10:26 AM

Quote:

Vintage Splinter who hates zr-tokka : Sat Jan 17, 2004 11:18 am

I think we're over analizing the Saki aspect. There may be an actual Oroku Saki that the 'Evil Utrom' kills and takes his idenity. Perhaps he's not even a bad guy, we'll probably get our answers before things are finished. After all the first one answered a lot of questions. And we have two more episodes to go for our answers. And Part 3 has Shredder himself showing up. So I'm sure he'll rant off on several things to explain all these things. We'll probably learn that Hamato Yoshi was the decendant of a Guardian or actually was a Guardian himself. But from what I can tell so far, the Utroms never realized that Shredder is the Evil Utrom.
-->> http://www.terrible2z.com/coleco-who...mon-cutmon.gif
..ah..cut me.. maybe
..really.. follow me on this.. i think the Armour and Shredder are in a symbiote.. like Spider Man's 'Venom' character.. ..

..Saki himself is human.. but the Armour is of the Red utrom.. it has to be.. maybe the red guy died and beacme one with the armour.. guess we won't know til' next week.. whatever the case.. after the Baxter spider.. i'm just..floored.. .. oi..

Splinter 01-17-2004 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zREAL-tOkKa
..ah..cut me.. maybe
..really.. follow me on this.. i think the Armour and Shredder are in a symbiote.. like Spider Man's 'Venom' character.. ..

..Saki himself is human.. but the Armour is of the Red utrom.. it has to be.. maybe the red guy died and beacme one with the armour.. guess we won't know til' next week.. whatever the case.. after the Baxter spider.. i'm just..floored.. .. oi..

No. We have the concept art. We have the episode that proves it. We need to just let go of any thoughts of Saki being human. He's not. That's why we saw his abdomen bandaged in 'Darkness on the Edge of Town'. That's why he was able to hold the sword of Tengu without being electrocuted it like everyone else. Even Splinter who was a master couldn't weild it without it burning his handpaws. Saki is the evil Utrom, the Shredder is Saki. There is no grand conspiracy. Forget all you know about the Mirage, Archie, Movie, or Old Toon Shredder. This is the new version, and he is what he is.

tOkKa 01-17-2004 10:38 AM

Maybe V-Splinter is right..
 
Quote:

V-Splinter said::..Forget all you know about the Mirage, Archie, Movie, or Old Toon Shredder. This is the new version, and he is what he is.
-->> .. :o .. well .. maybe yir right..


.. remember those clones//



.. they never really ..REALLY looked like Saki anyway.. they looked more like somebody's nightmare of a bad lunch.. Saki's not human..



.. he's as freaky as the rest of 'em!!


.. get yir FREEK ON!!
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.. not that the ol' Cartoon Saki wasn't freeky as he was..

Meeko 01-17-2004 10:39 AM

in the ep DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN You know that other shredder like suit the foot finds in the water using the sword of tengu The suit mikey calles barnacle bill I wonder If that will Be explained in the secret orgin eps

Splinter 01-17-2004 10:44 AM

The suit wasn't red, just the Utrom. :)


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