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Jarrah White 01-26-2004 02:58 AM

Deleted Utrom scene
 
I've heard that during the shooting of The Secrets of The Ooze, one scene was cut. Dt. Perry having retrieved the last mutagen canister opens up his shirt and hands the canister to a Utrom in his stomach. Does this scene exist?

caspiantiger 01-26-2004 06:13 AM

Iv never heard of it
 
That would have been cool. i wouldnt ever have thought of him being krang.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan 01-26-2004 06:35 AM

Funny how I've never heard of Utroms until just recently, and all of a sudden, this supposed "deleted scene" pops up.

That would have been neat had it happened. But I doubt there is any validity to that rumor.

"His brain's in his stomach!" - Vernon, from "Shredder & Splintered

That Matt Guy 01-26-2004 06:41 AM

I doubt that scene exists. They used the last canister to make Tokka and Rahzar, then Shredder swallowed what was left and mutated himself.

caspiantiger 01-26-2004 06:48 AM

yes
 
Yes he used the last canister for toka and razar, but i think i remember seeing him dumping all the other canisters of ooz onto a brain like object in his lab. maybee they were hoping to have krang in one of the next movies?

Coola Yagami 01-26-2004 06:56 AM

I think he meant near the end where Shredder's vial is lost and Perry takes it away. Remember that Shredder had 1 vial, the one used for Tokka and Rahzar, but when he lost it, he had this lil small one as a back up.

That Matt Guy 01-26-2004 07:07 AM

Yeah I forgot, Keno runs up and kicks it out of his hands.

Hannah 01-26-2004 07:31 AM

Yeah, but I don't see why Keno did it. :dead: Ugh, he was so un needed. Stupid kid.

J Legault 01-26-2004 08:29 AM

I heard of that on a different topic. But I'd don't know if it's true.

Since the whole Secret of Ooze never mentioned any Utroms.

TGRI is just a regular technology company with no alien colony.

Gremlin 01-26-2004 09:16 AM

I think this thing is a popular topic at IMDB, and as far as I know, they were planning to do tmnt2 in the same mirage-style as the first one. They did the script, made a couple of scenes/screentest/whatever and then the big shots who owned the movie company told them to make it into a kids movie. It might have been filmed, but it belongs to an old version of the script which we, obviously, will never see

Reznorite420 01-26-2004 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138
I doubt that scene exists. They used the last canister to make Tokka and Rahzar, then Shredder swallowed what was left and mutated himself.

What he swallowed was that little vial he used to threaten that woman he was holding hostage, not the entire canister. Hence Leonardo saying, "The last vial of ooze!"

Kali 01-26-2004 09:27 AM

I've been hearing about this scene since I first got into the TMNT online fandom. I even think it's mentioned in one of Peter's Blast From The Past's. Apparently, Perry was supposed to be revealed as an Utrom at the end of the movie, but it never made it to final cut. I'm not sure if it was filmed, just in the script, or simply brainstormed.

That Matt Guy 01-26-2004 09:34 AM

I have my doubts about it actually being filmed.

OceaBass 01-26-2004 10:25 AM

Oh well, we can only dream... :)

Drtooth 01-26-2004 11:19 AM

It would have been so much better if it followed the comics. Of course, with the alien worlds and the Triceritons, not to mention hoards of Utroms, that movie would have a monsterous buget. I guess if they cut Vanilla Ice out, they could have done some of it...

anyway, If they just had the Utrom storyline in liu of that whole "Shredder's Revenge" plot, it would have been much better...

OceaBass 01-26-2004 11:51 AM

Vanilla Ice c1991 - bleugh....

Maybe Suge Knight should've been in TMNT II, and spared us from a severe cheese fest. :lol:

raphael90 01-26-2004 12:14 PM

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That scene so would have rocked in the second movie and made the somewhat cheesy, lackluster ending more interesting. Now I wished they would have kept it and instead of that awful time travel to Japan in the next movie, followed the Utrom story...

That Matt Guy 01-26-2004 12:15 PM

So was Professor Perry supposed to reveal he had a utrom at the Vanilla Ice concert? Not a good place to show off the giant pink alien in your stomach IMO.

Drtooth 01-26-2004 12:18 PM

Maybe Vanilla Ice was an Utrom... I mean, it's humanly impossible to lack that much talent....

That Matt Guy 01-26-2004 12:20 PM

No alien could make such a horrible sound.

Drtooth 01-26-2004 01:05 PM

Maybe he was a criminally insane Utrom....

Jarrah White 01-26-2004 01:24 PM

Hmm, lots of TMNTs fan from 1991 were small children and therefore only knew the turtles from the old toon. Seeing Perry reveal himself as a Utrom, the kids might have jumped out of their seats screaming "Look it's Krang!"

Splinter 01-26-2004 01:26 PM

The scene played out like this, from what I've read. :)

Keno knocks the cannister of ooze away, and Perry recovers it like seen in the movie. Perry ducks into a bathroom or a supply room, and lifts up his shirt. Revealing the Utrom in his stomache cavity. He hands the cannister to the Oot, and that's it. The big question is whether or not this scene actually got past the scripting stage. And if any of the elements were filmed. :)

Ninjatron 01-26-2004 02:39 PM

There is indeed validity to the rumor because Peter Larid himself mentioned it during an interview on the official TMNT site a few years back when we were all under the impression that the new TMNT show was going to have computer generated animation. If you dig around ninjaturtles.com you might be able to find it.

Sayonara.

Gremlin 01-26-2004 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew138
No alien could make such a horrible sound.

Well, maybe he was one of those old prototypes that they forgot to destroy :lol:

Krangfan 01-26-2004 02:45 PM

That woulda been awesome if they put the Utrom thing in except that if I was a little kid watching it, I would've definitley thought it was Krang :trazz:

cqb101 01-26-2004 03:02 PM

Wow, that sounds reall cool! I hop they did film it, and will release it soon.

raphael90 01-26-2004 05:11 PM

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Quote:

Wow, that sounds reall cool! I hop they did film it, and will release it soon.
I second that! :D

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan 01-26-2004 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarrah White
Hmm, lots of TMNTs fan from 1991 were small children and therefore only knew the turtles from the old toon. Seeing Perry reveal himself as a Utrom, the kids might have jumped out of their seats screaming "Look it's Krang!"

Exactly. I would have been as shocked as the next person.

But then I would have hated this scene moments later. Just what the heck was Krang doing in some crackpot scientist's stomach? Where was his android body? Who's running the Technodrome? And why weren't Bebop and Rocksteady beating the heck out of those pathetic excuses for mutants, Tokka and Rahzar?

This may have been one reason why the scene was cut. It would have been too confusing for cartoon fans such as myself.

"Doesn't anybody recognize us?" - Michaelangelo, from "Shredderville"

Halfshell 01-27-2004 04:40 AM

I don't think they they were planning Professor Jordon Perry as an alien, they might have put the thought into, but never do it. This is a kids movie and not all the kids would be able to follow the movie line. The movie never really follow a basic comic line. Yeah they were found by Splinter, got mutated, learned ninja, met april and casey, shredder is splinter's natural enemy, splinter wanting revenage on shredder, either splinter or the turtles destroy shredder - they pretty much follow this same story line. But never an alien in the second movie. Shredder had nothing to do with them, and would created another story/plot line in the movie, making it too long, and was really planning another squeull!

Coola Yagami 01-27-2004 06:41 AM

The TMNT movies were more 'realistic' set in the real world, apart from mutants. If the Ultrom appeared in TMNT2 to set up TMNT3, then TMNT3 woulda lost the credibility of the audience with all the Ultroms and maybe even Fugitoid and Triceratons thrown in...

It's like the X Men movies... they wanna do the Phoenix saga for part 3, but I wonder how they'll do it without the Shi'Ar stuff to keep the plot on Earth.

spikealike 01-27-2004 05:46 PM

I had that exact same discussion with a random bloke in the SU bar earlier...

turtleking 01-27-2004 06:37 PM

Re: .....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raphael90
Quote:

Wow, that sounds reall cool! I hop they did film it, and will release it soon.
I second that! :D

sounds good to me.

Drtooth 01-27-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarrah White
Hmm, lots of TMNTs fan from 1991 were small children and therefore only knew the turtles from the old toon. Seeing Perry reveal himself as a Utrom, the kids might have jumped out of their seats screaming "Look it's Krang!"

I'll second that! I mean, I grew up with the cartoon show, and even several years ago, my cousin gave me the reprint of issue 7 (I think) with an Utrom on the cover. I thought... KRANG! I flipped through it and saw other robotic android brains and I found it quite Jarring.

I doubt highly it was even filmed, as Henson is credited with the TMNT suits, Tokka, Reznor, and Shredder. I guess they would also have done the Utrom, but they never said anything of it in any of the creature shop books I've read.

Jo Dawn 01-27-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintage Splinter
The scene played out like this, from what I've read. :)

Keno knocks the cannister of ooze away, and Perry recovers it like seen in the movie. Perry ducks into a bathroom or a supply room, and lifts up his shirt. Revealing the Utrom in his stomache cavity. He hands the cannister to the Oot, and that's it. The big question is whether or not this scene actually got past the scripting stage. And if any of the elements were filmed. :)

Wow. I'd not heard of this before. That... would've been cool. :)

raphael90 01-27-2004 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Seeing Perry reveal himself as a Utrom, the kids might have jumped out of their seats screaming "Look it's Krang!"
I would have thought it was cool, even back in that day. A movie Krang would have rocked IMO, but I guess there really wasn't a place for it esp. if they didn't intend to go galactic and just stay on Earth.

VaughnMichael 01-27-2004 09:50 PM

actully
 
the never produced 4th movie was to take place in space with tuns of alien action figures I remeber they showed the poster one year at toy fair I was so nuts about it and then it never happend.
-Vaughn Michael

Jarrah White 01-27-2004 11:01 PM

Re: actully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Putrescent
the never produced 4th movie was to take place in space with tuns of alien action figures I remeber they showed the poster one year at toy fair I was so nuts about it and then it never happend.
-Vaughn Michael

Hmm, perhaps they did shoot that scene, and if they ever do make a 4th movie with that plotline maybe they'll have the deleted scene in the opening credits? Previously on TMNT...

tOkKa 01-28-2004 02:35 AM

-->> :goofygri: ..ah..this is easy..


.. TMNT 2 is my favorite movie in the whole world.. so.. trust me on this..


.. it's not a deleted scene..

.. they never filmed it..


.. however

..DRTooth.. you're 1/2 right..


..Perry opening up his shirt and revealing an ooey gooey Utrom..

..that was written into a draft of the movie..

..it may have been in the actual script.. but i do know for a fact it was written in there somewhere's..


..a super nerdy Turtle Tirdy and TMNT movie mongul told me so..one thing i've learned to do is trust the nerds.. they have connections..

:) ..
..o' crep.. there's my favourite gargoyle again..

d_osborn 01-28-2004 09:05 PM

Re: actully
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Putrescent
the never produced 4th movie was to take place in space with tuns of alien action figures I remeber they showed the poster one year at toy fair I was so nuts about it and then it never happend.
-Vaughn Michael

i've never even heard that a fourth movie was planned? can anyone confirm this, any add any info???

as for the rumored "utrom" scene.... i have a copy of the shooting script, and there is NO mention of a utrom ANYWHERE... the previous posts got close to what is in the final script, though... one of the turtles (can't remember exactly which one) hands perry the final canister. perry then backs off into a corner or something, and places the canister in his coat. he has a line, something similar to "I have some work to do..." i'll do my best to post an excerpt from the script i have in the next week.

i'm not saying a utrom scene never existed in early drafts of TMNT 2. i've been looking for early drafts of the script for quite some time, and have come up empty handed.


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