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Jester 03-02-2004 05:42 PM

Why did Mikey use a grappling hook in the last few seasons??
 
Hey,
Why did mikey use a grapling hook instead of nunchucks (spelling...not my strong suit)? Anyone have therories...or the real scope....i'd like to know

THE-X-FLO 03-02-2004 05:48 PM

I've read the other posts about it and if I'm correct, it's all about censorship..

The grappling hook was pretty lame, it was not even a real weapon :/

Jo Dawn 03-02-2004 06:30 PM

Yeah, from what I understand, parents thought that the nunchuk were too violent, and they switched Mikey's weapon to the grappling hook. Which, if that is true, is beyond me, since I would think the katana or sais looked more violent... but then again, I (thankfully) don't share the same kind of thinking as the people who complained... :wink:

Taloniss 03-02-2004 06:41 PM

Short version: Parents through a hissy fit over the "violence levels" of the old toon, so the makers decided to replace Mikey's chucks with the grappling hook. It was a stupid thing to do, but, such is censorship.

Jarrah White 03-02-2004 06:44 PM

They took away his chuks in The Next Mutation too, in that show he uses twin knightsticks.

jeff the cheff 03-02-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White
They took away his chuks in The Next Mutation too, in that show he uses twin knightsticks.

Wow that makes the next mutation that much worse. No offense. :wink:

Hyper Metal Sonic 03-02-2004 07:26 PM

I thought you meant in the new show...

It was SO on the tip of my tongue to say "It's leftover from his Turtle Titan outfit."

jeff the cheff 03-02-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyper Metal Sonic
I thought you meant in the new show...

It was SO on the tip of my tongue to say "It's leftover from his Turtle Titan outfit."

:lol: Oh ya, he did use a hook in that episode.

Cascadia 03-02-2004 10:05 PM

they took the chucks away because numerous parents were complaining on how violent chucks are. Kids around the globe would act out as TMNT and parents did not want their kids to become too violent.

Buslady 03-02-2004 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White
They took away his chuks in The Next Mutation too, in that show he uses twin knightsticks.

Tonfa...they're tonfa.

Hyper Metal Sonic 03-02-2004 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scientific freak
they took the chucks away because numerous parents were complaining on how violent chucks are. Kids around the globe would act out as TMNT and parents did not want their kids to become too violent.

So wait, carrying around giant katanas isn't violent either?

:roll:

Jo Dawn 03-02-2004 11:52 PM

That's what I said, too... The katana and sais were ok, but the nunchuk wasn't?? Oh well, I'm not gonna bother rationalizing that... :)

MW8979 03-03-2004 06:14 AM

Maybe they just compromised and decided to only alter Michaelangelo's weapons. If that's the truth, then it was for the greater good of the show really.

Dane E5R 03-03-2004 06:36 AM

I always thought it was funny that they never officially said it was his new weapon aloud..

Barkworm 03-03-2004 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Buslady
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarrah White
They took away his chuks in The Next Mutation too, in that show he uses twin knightsticks.

Tonfa...they're tonfa.

The Tonfa were at least cooler than that grappling hook.

Buslady 03-03-2004 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by barkworm
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buslady
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Originally Posted by Jarrah White
They took away his chuks in The Next Mutation too, in that show he uses twin knightsticks.

Tonfa...they're tonfa.

The Tonfa were at least cooler than that grappling hook.

yeah at least they really are a Japanese weapon...

Jester 03-03-2004 07:40 AM

Yeah....he did have no chucks in nm too....i forgot....and i agree that sais and katana are more violent....but where r kids gonna get them??? i know that i had a pair of chucks when i was a kid....they were plastic with a foam around them and a string connecting them....they looked nice.....and they didn't hurt anyone....now a bo staf is just any big stick like a broom or mop....and u can knock the devil out of ur friends with that....why not change donny's weapon to a "Pink flower??"

Oh just to explaine the quote:
Foot: But the rat had a stick!!
Shredder: ands what did the turtle have a pink flower!!???? - east meets west NT:NM

Deathknight 03-03-2004 09:42 AM

Ok, mods... please add this to the tmnt faq, it's been asked far too many times.

Jarrah White 03-03-2004 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Foot: But the rat had a stick!!
Shredder: ands what did the turtle have a pink flower!!???? - east meets west NT:NM

:lol: :lol: I love that line! :lol: :lol:

Krangfan 03-03-2004 02:19 PM

So, if the 'chucks are too violent, what about the katanas or sais? I'll never know. And they should've at least taken Donatello's weapons away, seeing as it's the easiest for kids to imitate. But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage! :tlol:

rayfillet101 03-03-2004 02:23 PM

I imatate donatello all the time! Its so fun! people look at me like im crazy! Does anyone have pics of mikey with his grappling hook cuz im having trouble visalizing this!

Jarrah White 03-03-2004 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rayfillet101
I imatate donatello all the time! Its so fun! people look at me like im crazy! Does anyone have pics of mikey with his grappling hook cuz im having trouble visalizing this!

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Kali 03-03-2004 02:36 PM

Why are 'chucks more "violent" than sai and katana? They aren't necessarily, it's just that 'chucks were/are used by gangs in many countries, and they are also rather easy to make, and conceal. Sai and katana are theoretically harder to get a hold of.

It was the association with gangs that made parents upset.

MW8979 03-03-2004 03:39 PM

Unfortunately, this is absolutely true. This is also the reason why foot soldiers don't use real bullets, only lasers, which don't hurt anyone. Even the cool submachine gun sound effects from season 1 were take out in season 2.

THE-X-FLO 03-03-2004 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder84
This is also the reason why foot soldiers don't use real bullets, only lasers

Well that didn't seem weird that Foot Soldier robots used lasers like that, but when it came to police men or mere crooks this was pretty ridiculous

Orochi Chimera 03-04-2004 12:11 PM

That maybe why the foot soiders were robots to begin with. Destroying a robot is no big deal.

heretic888 03-04-2004 12:25 PM

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But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!
Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

Krangfan 03-04-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by heretic888
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But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!
Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

well, yeah. I put the lauging smilie up b/c it's ironic that they'd put something just as violent in...

Jester 03-04-2004 02:02 PM

really....wow....i'd have never known....i just think the whole over reaction to nunchuck is a bit off....it's just a toon....and the only chucks kiddos are gonna get r the ones made by playmates

Orochi Chimera 03-04-2004 02:12 PM

They were possibly worried that they would be to easy to make. Basically two sticks and a chain but a variety of materials could be used for the same effect.

I still find this kind of censorship ridiculous.

Hyper Metal Sonic 03-04-2004 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orochichimera
That maybe why the foot soiders were robots to begin with. Destroying a robot is no big deal.

The foot were robots so that they turtles could slice into them with no blood. Same goes with Jedi and the battle droids. :wink:

jestergoblin 03-04-2004 08:16 PM

Ok... here is the history of mikey's weapons to the best of my knowledge...

The nunchakus became a grappling hook for multiple reasons: first, the nunchaku is much easier to recreate than a sai or a katana. On top of that, I believe that nunchakus do an incredible job multiplying force with little effort just by swinging them around. In addition to that, the whole gang relation is true, it can be seen the whole UK rerelease of TMNT.

In next mutation, the reason for Mikey's weapon change was that it was a low budget show over all and they were not able to have a person trained with nunchakus. This may get some backlash but its much easier to have someone fake swords play than to fake nunchakus, so Mikey got the tonfas.

Now about the foot soldiers, it was so Leo and Raph could use their blades.

Deathknight 03-05-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by heretic888
Quote:

But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!
Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

Very true, but not the way Mikey used it. The only thing he did with it was he used it to climb and attempt to tie people up. Not exactly effective.

Jester 03-05-2004 03:00 PM

Thanks jestergoblin....

Jarrah White 03-05-2004 03:11 PM

If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

TMNTFanCrys 03-05-2004 05:14 PM

..Maybe it's just me...
 
But I think Don's weapon is pretty dangerous as well. I mean him in the second movie, all he did was knock everyone in the face! LOL...looked like it hurt too...

Sheila 03-05-2004 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Krangfan
So, if the 'chucks are too violent, what about the katanas or sais? I'll never know. And they should've at least taken Donatello's weapons away, seeing as it's the easiest for kids to imitate. But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage! :tlol:

Ya! That's a good question I want to ask also.
I think katana and sai are more violent than chunks :|

Machias Banshee 03-05-2004 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White
If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

Don't even TRY to involve politics here...

jestergoblin 03-05-2004 10:02 PM

Sheila, it's not that nunchakus are more dangerous, its that it is much easier for a novice to hurt themselves. Any idiot knows not to touch the sharp part of a sword. An idiot won't be able to smack themselves in the face with a bo to serious damage (MAYBE if they were twirling it).

With nunchakus, it is much easier for a novice to swing them around and create enough general force to break their own arm by accident. I believe it takes 80 pounds of force per square inch to break a bone and a nunchaku can easily create twice as much force in the hands of a master.

Also, how many kids have access to a forge and the ability to make their own swords? Not many, right? How many kids can get rope and two pieces of wood? A lot more. Kids will imitate what they see and it is easiier to make a set of nunchakus than a pair of swords. Now kids never see Leo hitting himself with katanas, but Mikey would do tricks with the nunchakus that looked like he was hitting himself. Sound like a problem?

Barkworm 03-06-2004 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarrah White
If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

Don't even TRY to involve politics here...

But that is sooooo true. Some parents are just plain stupid... :|


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