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Anarchistguy 05-15-2004 07:57 AM

New Ep Discussion: "The Big Brawl"
 
No one started this thread, so I'll do it ...

(Can someone "sticky it, please? Thanks :) )

[edit by Machi: Hehehe, Done! :D ]

Eye of Sarnath 05-15-2004 08:02 AM

That was a great episode. I was hoping Usagi would be in it more, but I guess he'll appear more in the next episodes. I thought it was cool to see the return of characters from The Ultimate Ninja, too.

Did anyone else think that stature behind Leo at the end looked a lot like Shredder?

I loved Mikey's comment about Splinter having a girlfriend.

jestergoblin 05-15-2004 08:05 AM

Yeah, I saw some statue similarities too.

The best part was Mikey's comment about the nexus.

Not much for Usagi and he seems really small. It also looks like we may be getting a huge amount of new figures too.

One odd thing: Donny doesn't have his bag this time around.

Demonfox38 05-15-2004 08:07 AM

http://ssbm.detstar.com/screengallery/samus_ridley.jpg ACCK!!! Draco is Ridley!!!! ACCK!!!

*e3 does weird things to the mind*

Loved today's episode. There were Lajatangs in it even! WOWWIEE!!!

Ever notice that everyone seems to be at least 8 feet tall in this nexus thing? Must be something in the gene pool or the water.

Aww, Hamato Yoshi was even in it! Come on! That just good stuff right there!!!

Battle scenes were awesome. Kept killing trees. Bet the hippies cried a lot.

In conclusion, I am now a stuttering mess due to exposure to lots of battles and dexteritious styles of fighting. THANK YOU!!! 5/5

PanMan 05-15-2004 08:09 AM

that was definitely a statue of shredder behind leo.

looks like drago wants revenge and he's going to take it out on leo.

an ok ep, but i'm not into the story too much.

Meira-Bates 05-15-2004 08:15 AM

I don't think it was Shredder, just a random samurai like person. Since when did Shredder use a sword besides the tengu? And other details looked much more like samurai armor than Shredder's armor. It would explain some things if it WERE Shredder...but I really doubt it is. Not just cause it looked more samurai-ish to me, but because I'm sure Splinter would already have met with Shredder if that were the case.

Putting that aside...I liked the ep, twas quite good.

Relay 05-15-2004 08:17 AM

"Perhaps fate is telling an overprotective father that his sons have grown up."

Oh man! Big Brawl Part One was great! I knew Splinter could really kick ass, but to find out he was champion of an multiunversal fighting tournament is amazing, not to mention that Hamato Yoshi was as well. There were a lot of things I really enjoyed about this episode.

During the four-armed guy's story about Splinter and the Battle Nexus, did anyone else catch a glimpse of two monsters from Kirby's universe that he created with the magic pencil? I thought it was a nice touch that the artists brought back a couple of minor old characters as a hidden surprise. The return of the Triceraton gladiator was also a nice touch.

Seeing Usagi Yojimbo was great. The artists did a really good job on him for the new show. True, he was short, but that's the way he looks in the comics. Usagi really proved he was an honorable samurai the way he showed up, saw Splinter in trouble, and then jumped into the fray to help him. He also had some nice moves. I can't wait to see more of him in later parts of the story arc. I wonder if Gen will make an appearance as well?

Those shadow ninjas that attacked Splinter in the flashback and then were about to attack Leo in the cliffhanger looked awesome. I wouldn't mind having those guys replace the Foot soldiers in the show because they looked so much darker and more threatening than Foot soldiers.

The Turtles had some good moves against those stickmen. I can't wait to see how they fare in the tournament. It'd be really cool if they won and had statues made of them. Then that would make 3 generations of masters/students under Hamato Yoshi to win. What a legacy that would be! There had better be a new episode next week to continue the story arc, even though FoxBox said this was the season finale. I can't wait to see how the rest of the Big Brawl unfolds.

MrPliggins 05-15-2004 08:19 AM

An awesome ep in my opinion. It was cool to see so many characters return, and even a Triceraton from "Turtles In Space"! cool... Usagi was cool too.. he has always been short. he was really short in the original TMNT cartoon. His voice is cool, although he didn't actually say any words so I'll let you know about that when part 2 airs.
Yeah, Leo hasn't noticed the Shredder statue yet. Funny, NONE of the turtles seemed to notice the Shredder statue.
Well, I saw the creatures from Kirby's world, but it was just in a flashback. And..the Ultimate Ninja wants to be friends now? If he's gonna keep coming around, they need to give him a name. They can't keep calling him "The Ultimate Ninja", when he's obviously not all that ultimate..

rayfillet101 05-15-2004 08:30 AM

Amazing Episode. My favorite Triceriton is back ( Other than Zog)! I was so excited. I hoped to see more of Usagi but we didnt. Next time though. And by the time Prt 2 airs, I will have a Usagi figure( Theyre coming out supposply in september). The cliffhanger didnt really phase me much. seeing how they were firing an arrow at a turtles shell!

Anarchistguy 05-15-2004 08:34 AM

Um...The WHOLE Big Brawl arc airs before reruns time..

Meira-Bates 05-15-2004 08:34 AM

That's another reason I highly doubt the statue was Shredder...no one paid attention to it x.X

rayfillet101 05-15-2004 08:45 AM

so Big Brawl Pt 2 is next weekend? Im officialy confussed

Anarchistguy 05-15-2004 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rayfillet101
so Big Brawl Pt 2 is next weekend?

Yup

Splinter 05-15-2004 08:58 AM

Good episode, as usual. Glad we're finally getting the mystery of Splinter's knowledge that was hinted back in 'The Ultimate Ninja' resolved. And no, I don't think that was Shredder's statue. If it was, it was another variation of his armor from over the centuries. :)

As for next week, according to my TV listings...

"Tales of Leo"

So it looks like we will be waiting til later this year for the last 3 episodes of Season 2.

jeff the cheff 05-15-2004 09:10 AM

I hope there will be more episodes after the rest of this arch, but of course there will. :)

That chant that Leo and Splint did was creepy...hummdiddlyhumdiddlywhoadiddlyyayyyyy. I was actually hoping for Mikey to try the chant out. :lol:

RskimB 05-15-2004 09:33 AM

I liked this episode I'm glad I woke up on time, I've been missing a few episodes before this on. Nice episode, not as much humor as usual but the action made up for that.

So does this mean season 2 is over?

Jephael 05-15-2004 09:37 AM

I was so anxious to see Usagi's big premier, that every time a portal opened I kept thinking it would be him. I liked how they used him in the backflash though.

Jo Dawn 05-15-2004 09:38 AM

I liked this episode. It was very cool. Seeing Splinter fight... see, now they should know never to mess with their father, hehe. :wink:

I liked Mikey's "Nexus" quote, but my absolute favorite line of this episode was "It's like finding out your dad's Superman!"

I though that was adorable! :)

Awesome episode!

Blades 05-15-2004 09:48 AM

I thought this episode was well done; had a fangirl moment when Usagi Yojimbo (sp?) showed up. It wasn't very long, but I think he'll be back. On thing though - from the noises I heard Usagi make, it sounds like he has a high pitched voice...not sure if I'm gonna like that or not. :| The cameos by Jack Kirby's monsters/creatures and the Triceraton gladiator were cool too! I want to see more of the gladiator, he seems like a good character, and one that could grow in the series (somehow).

Humour was great as always. Not much needs to be said about that. ^_^
Mike- "What? It's not like Donny's the only one who watches Star Trek" (or something similar)

As for the 'Ultimate Ninja', I have a funny feeling he has more to this story than meets the eye. THOERY: U.N. is working with Draco (that's the dragon's name right?) to take over the tournament, and U.N. can take his father's place.

....

OK, now, is the next part of "Big Brawl" on in a week, or is it reruns starting on the 22nd? :-?

Albrecht 05-15-2004 10:09 AM

Well it looks like im the only dumb ass that didnt know that the turtles are no linger on at 10:30(****) what time is it now.

RskimB 05-15-2004 10:12 AM

9:30

Aztec General 05-15-2004 10:18 AM

Another great episode. With the exception of Junklantis and some parts of the Turtles in Space saga, Season 2 has been exceptional.

I love how the animators included Kirby's creations in the Big Brawl. It makes the seemingly endless "new" dimensions in the show, less random and more apart of a larger and coherent universe. (Did that make any sense?)

Drako definetely seems like a badass. This should be interesting. I hope that next week is a new episode; although I'm not sure whether or not it will be (and I'm not about to jump into the message board bloodbath that's been raging over this question).

[email protected] 05-15-2004 10:45 AM

Good ep

I Never expected the ultimate ninja again, but am not surprised because the ep is based on a good tournament.

Splinter is finally letting the turtles be on their own with letting them decide their fate, but he was mad at them for leaving the lair.

The never gave usagi a name.

Not too fantastic cliffhanger with someone pointing his arrow at leo. THAT HAS GOTTA BE HOW LEO GETS POISIONED.

I cannot wait to see the rest of the BIG BRAWL QUARTOLOGY.

I won't be surprised to see the turtles come back to the lair and find it ransacked, but a year ago the foot searching for them kept them out of the lair. MAybe don sealed thej lair up like last time.

[email protected] 05-15-2004 10:47 AM

I did not expect draco to be a monster. I too thought that was funny when mikey said he has a girlfriend, but if he did he would leave the lair a lot more.


Someone posted a statue looked like shredder. IS that true?

Brinatello 05-15-2004 10:49 AM

Wow, that was awesome! Lots of action and more of Splinter's mysterious past revealed. It's fun to watch them all go to different worlds and battle strange new creatures. And poor Leo lost yet another set of katana blades! How many does this make? We should keep a record of the number of times a turtle loses his weapon in battle...for kicks. Mike's line was great, "It's like finding out your dad is Superman!" Yeah, it's pretty cool if your parent has a large statue in a hall of fame! Really great episode in my opinion. So, part 2 will NOT air next week? Yahoo! TV said it was "Tales of Leo" and that page has never failed me...yet. Anyway, can't wait to see more of it!

Gabrieli 05-15-2004 11:09 AM

As most've already noted, today's episode was excellent.

I have a question, though... was there any significance to the 'chalk' symbols that were used to open up the portal to the Nexus? A friend mentioned that one of the symbols looked like 'i ching'.

Any meaning to these? Or was it just gibberish?

TalonMC 05-15-2004 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Eye of Sarnath
Did anyone else think that stature behind Leo at the end looked a lot like Shredder?

I thought that too at first, but then realized that it's probably just a suit of samurai armor from a past winner.

But there *was* something there that made me wonder if Shredder had, in fact, been a past champion... As the TMNT were walking through the Hall of Champions, they walked passed a helmet sitting on a pedestal in the foreground. But the top of the helmet was obscured off-screen. It's possible that it was Shredder's. Since he's an Utrom, it's possible that his statue would just be a helmet... and not a full suit of armor. Just a thought.

-MC

Buslady 05-15-2004 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jestergoblin
Yeah, I saw some statue similarities too.

The best part was Mikey's comment about the nexus.

Not much for Usagi and he seems really small. It also looks like we may be getting a huge amount of new figures too.

One odd thing: Donny doesn't have his bag this time around.

Usagi was a kid! Duh! No scar over his left eye and what you could hear of his voice, it was quite young. And Usagi doesn't go around carrying water as an adult... Katsuichi (his sensei)made that his job.
I do like his appearance, he looks very good. I'm sure Stan had alot to do with that!
I'll damn surprised if I'm wrong about Usagi...being a kid...but that weird referee dude said he was young.

I'm glad Donnie doesn't have his magic bag of tricks, reminds me of Felix the cat. He should rely on his brain than his inventions.

I hope like in the comics, Leo and Usagi form a friendship. I can see Gennosuke and Raph being reluctant comrades but actually becoming friends.

So I'm confused...next week or no?

rayfillet101 05-15-2004 12:00 PM

Drako reminds me of Shendu from Jackie Chan Adventures

TerranigmaFreak 05-15-2004 12:01 PM

Actually I think that statue is the Shredder. Don't you remember the Ultimate Ninja guy also knew the Shredder? He said so in the Ultimate Ninja Episode. How else would he know about the Shredder if Shredder never appeared in the tournament. And maybe it's through the tournament that the Shredder knew of Hamato Yoshi.

Anyway great episode but I thought some of the animation was a bit lazy/sloppy. Those big guys(Draco and that 4 armed guy) just stood still as Splinter kicked them. I just didn't feel the power of Splinter's attacks. Other than that, great episode. Sigh, it's gonna be a loooooong summer without TMNT. I'm already wishing school would start soon

Snailman 05-15-2004 12:13 PM

VERY cool episode, can't wait for next weeks to see how it progresses. :D

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Originally Posted by jestergoblin
Not much for Usagi and he seems really small. It also looks like we may be getting a huge amount of new figures too.

Exactly. One of the things I was thinking while watching the episode was "I dunno about everyone else, but all I see are dozens of potential cool new figures! :o ".

I could totally see Playmates mnaking a sub-line of TMNT figures called something like "The (insert name of Tournament) Tournament" & have figures of some of the fighters from the tournament. If they actually do that, then I hope they make that big bearded 4-armed guy- but he damn well better be like 8" tall or something as the dude is HUGE in the show.

-Snailman

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle 05-15-2004 12:16 PM

Pretty good episode. This is probably the first episode that deals with Splinter more than ever. His mysterious past, his knowledge of duals, and more are starting to come into focus. And the fact that he, along with Yoshi, are both champions is simply awesome. Some things I noticed.

-Leo's swords broke...again! What is this the fourth time that has happened?
-Hey! It's the Triceretron that the boys befriended in Turtles in Space! They noticed him and he waved. Very nice.
-Splinter, even with a leg broken, is still quite the badass of a warrior. He is so determined.

Not much else though. Still, beginning episodes of arcs are slow because they have to get the story along. But next week (if in fact Part II is playing next week) the balls should begin to roll. Oh and one more thing: Now that all the brothers are in the Brawl, you think one of them might win? Leonardo has the biggest chance, since he did beat the Ultimate Ninja on Earth. Oh and how cool would it be to see a championship fight between Leo and Splinter? Wow, that would be different.

Buslady 05-15-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle
Oh and how cool would it be to see a championship fight between Leo and Splinter? Wow, that would be different.

That would be interesting but Splinter would probably know Leo's strengths and weaknesses, therefore he may win..unless Leo's learned a few tricks of his own.

blue_angel99 05-15-2004 12:50 PM

That episode kicked shell! I can't wait for season 3. Hamato Splinter is so awesome. :D

Phandral 05-15-2004 01:46 PM

As someone mentioned before, I think the whole deal between Shredder/Han and Hamato Yoshi/Splinter can be traced back to this tournament. I don't believe that one statue we saw was of Shredder, but it would not suprise me if they did have one somewhere in the hall of fame, or at least was a contender at some point. This would be pretty damn shallow, eve anti-climatic, but Shredder's beef with Hamato Yoshi could possbily have stemed from his (Shredder's) defeat at Hamato's hands at this tourney?

Phandral 05-15-2004 01:47 PM

...or possbily this is how Yoshi first became involved with the utroms, period? (The origins of the Guradians?)

MasterMole 05-15-2004 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blue_angel99
That episode kicked shell! I can't wait for season 3. Hamato Splinter is so awesome. :D

I thought the remaing "Big Brawl" episodes are part of Season 2, which would end this season. I hope these last 3 episodes will air this season, not next Season 3. If they do air next season, this means Season 2 will only have 23 episodes.

jeff the cheff 05-15-2004 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjasword
Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_angel99
That episode kicked shell! I can't wait for season 3. Hamato Splinter is so awesome. :D

I thought the remaing "Big Brawl" episodes are part of Season 2, which would end this season. I hope these last 3 episodes will air this season, not next Season 3. If they do air next season, this means Season 2 will only have 23 episodes.

Yea, but thet did the same thing with the first season, because the foxbox season and the tmnt seasons are both different.

rayfillet101 05-15-2004 02:29 PM

the remaining three episodes are still part of season two. When they are played has nothign to do with that. Last year RTNY, Search for Splinter, and fillers were played right before season two, that doesn't mean they are in season two. understand?

Torrant2 05-15-2004 03:23 PM

last episode this season
 
for anyone who can still not believe that that was it go to foxbox.tv it says so. that was it friends we have to wait all these endless months for our heroes return.


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