turtles on the USA cartoon express
 

I heard that when Turtles was on USA Cartoon express, parts where cut out? WHY? How much was cut of from each ep? Give scenes from each ep on USA that you remember being cut out. I am glad I never recorded the turtle eps on that channel. That is bad to do, that cut out sences of reruns.

I only saw the turtles on USA Cartoon express when I was flipping through channels and at most saw 2 minutes of the eps because by the time turtles went on Cartoon express (it moved out of WBLVI 56 in early September 1993 and was on USA Cartoon express from Fall 1993-early September 1996, what a conicdinence the very last ep of the series aired 2 months after it was taken off USA meaning 1996 was the END OF the series and 1997 was the real end since that was when it was taken off CBS and they stopped making new toys of the series) I lost interest. USA cartoon express seemed to be the channel of where shows go when people loose interest.

Most cable channels that rerun cartoon shows cut about two minutes out of them. I think it is because they are required to show more commercials. I have also heard that the Simpsons reruns have some edits.
USA did it when they actually showed cartoons, and i know they do it on other channels too. It is sad, yes... the show just isn't the same when it isn't complete. I'm pretty sure Cartoon Network does not do this though, and it shows all shows in their entirety.
In fact, I was watching Family Guy once on CN and they actually showed an extra part that wasn't on my dvd version.
So who knows, editing is weird.

I miss the USA Cartoon express. I wish there was a site that had images or videos of the Cartoon express animation that was shown when going to commericals and when the cartoon block started and ended. I used to watch Super Mario Bros. Super Show and the Real Ghostbusters on that all the time.

I have those on tape somewhere, because I used to tape the TMNT on Cartoon Express sometimes. They were really bad animations. One funny one was where the turtles came down on parachutes and painted a tunnel for the cartoon express train to go through. Crazy.

"Action, adventure and all the rest on the USA Cartoon Express!"

Don't know why I remember the jingle.

They edited the hell out of GI Joe. I found a site once that showed comparisons between the full-length episodes and the USA edited ones. They really butchered them.

They did the same with Real Ghostbusters so all the episodes I own are from stations other than USA. Though Fox Family edited a few episodes for content and even banned one for it's devil-worshipping scenerio. Stupid soccer moms.

But the Cartoon Network does not edit their shows for length. They have a firm stance against that. God I love that channel.

And the Simpsons are editted even worse than anything USA ever did. Some of the best jokes I remember end up thrown away for more commercials.

I can't remember what the episode is called, but it's the one that's divided up into Lisa's Day, Homer's Day, and Bart's Day. In the reruns, they completely cut out Homer's Day. You never know why he's even trying to get to the hospital. They also cut out a few other short parts of that episode.

And The Real Ghostbusters was aired on Fox Family (now ABC Family), where it too was pretty butchered. Maybe it's me, but I just think there shouldn't be seven commercial breaks in a half hour show.

Yeah, they even shortened the opening sequence and changed the credits so that they'd go by faster. I guess it's better that they take a minute from the opening and the credits than the show itself, but still...

Oh, and I signed your petition. My VHSs are practically dust.

AS I would like to get back to the turtles editing, what do all of you recall that they cut out of the turtles on USA. What seasons ran on USA of the turtles?


A Little off the topic, why did the USA Cartoon express go off?

Hmm....the whole opening aerobics sequence from "Bye Bye Fly" was cut out.
Also, the entire Metalhead sequence from "Big Bug Blunder".

Editing the cartoons we all love and know by heart is stupid and it sucks. Can you believe my parents used to get upset whenever I got mad at the T.V. for that crap?

There was no need to edit them. No one wanted to see more commercials.

Programmers should knock that off.

Yeah that really sucks that they edited the episodes. They keep adding more and more commercials to shows these days plus now a lot of channels add voiceovers and split screens in closing credits to advertise thier crappy shows.

I really liked watching USA Cartoon express too bad it hasn't been on for years.

I remember a post saying that a scene was edited in michelangelo's birthday in the beggining. Not that I care, I hope they did not edit anything out of REturn of the TEchnodrome. Did they. What do you remember them editing from return of the technodrome?

What did they edit out in the first 5 eps (from turtle tracks to Shredder and splintered).

I agree with all of you about them cutting out scenes of reruns and that being awful. That may damage interest in people. That is low ofthem doing it from simpsons. I notcied cuts from simpsons reruns.

what did they edit from, if they did, the opening and closing credits. I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU THAT WE ALL DON"T CARE FOR MORE COMMERICALS.

I don't remember anything in particular about what they edited in Return of the Technodrome. I don't think I saw the first season on USA. I saw and taped it from the channel it was originally on. If I had the episode on tape that USA was currently airing I would just watch the tape instead.

With the earlier episodes they sometimes cut nothing. For example, Curse of the Evil Eye and The Fifth Turtle were completely clean of edits. Anything in Season 4 and above had severe edits. Each episode had about 2 minutes of unnecessary scenes removed. Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan can help me out with edits from certain episodes but here's what I can remember.
Cowabunga Shredhead-
Bebop and Rocksteady cleaning the hideout and saying "What does Shredder think we are a couple of house maids?" is cut.
The scene in Vinni's Pizza is cut to Vinni simply handing Mikey a soft drink.
Footage of the turtles hiding out when Shredder has the reprogrammed disk is cut.

Rock Around the Block-
Scene where Shredder and company first enter the rocket base is cut to them simply making the entrance with the transport module.
Scene with Bebop and Rocksteady fooling around with the controls is cut
The fight with Tragg is cut a bit short
All scenes with Vernon studying transendental procrastination is cut
Tower of Power-
All footage of the turtles on the ship to Paris is cut with the exception of them barfing from the pizza.

Polly Wanna Pizza-
Scene of Mugsy and his partner trying to attack a green wrestler for stealing his birb is cut

Nightmair in the Lair
Michaelangelo strolling on the beach and first meeting creepy Eddy is cut
Leonardo and Michaelangelo first meeting the spider is cut.
The scene where Milton gets hurt by going down the stairs in a chair is cut

Krangenstein Lives!
All scenes of Vernon searching the city for Krang's body is cut.

I'm probably missing some edits in each of those eps but those are just the ones I remember.

[quote="Deathknight"]With the earlier episodes they sometimes cut nothing. For example, Curse of the Evil Eye and The Fifth Turtle were completely clean of edits.



I dunno about that... I seem to remember they cut stuff out of every episode. The very first episode USA showed was "The Incredible Shrinking Turtles". I remember watching it and right away I noticed they cut out parts (can't remember which now...I think they cut the entire scene where Leo makes the snake eat soap).
And as for Curse of the Evil Eye, they cut out the part where Leo's swords get turned into ice cream cones. "Ice Cream Cones? Yuck!"
Also in that episode, they cut out a whole part inside the Taj Mahal when the Turtles are fighting Baxter. I think it was when the "glob monster" globbed Michelangelo to the wall.



On another note, did anyone ever notice that CBS actually edited some episodes when it re-aired them in later seasons? It only cut about 30 seconds per episode. The episodes I noticed this in were "Krangenstein Lives" and "Revenge of the Fly"
"Krangenstein Lives" I had taped from USA, and there were actually parts in the USA version that weren't shown in the CBS rerun...that's how I know this.
Also, in "Revenge of the Fly", they cut out part of the beginning, and started the episode a little bit later.
Just some useless info for anyone who cares...

well I know the fifth turtle was left uncut, I have an encode of that I can watch right now.

That's odd, but I don't remember anything cut out of that episode either..

I have a bundle of USA episodes on tape but it's too painful to watch the edits.

[quote="MrPliggins"]WHAT ALL THOSE PARTS YOU MENTION THAT WERE CUT FROM THE SHRINKING TURTLES AND CURSE OF THE EVIL EYE WERE MAIN SCENES and they had better release ALL OF THE REST OF THE TURTLE EPS ON DVD BECAUSE OF THIS.

THIS IS WHAT I HATE ABOUT RERUNS. SCENES GET CUT

I remenber watching TMNt on USA Cartoon express. But barely.

Nothing to say on the way it was cut.

but when they showed SatAM Sonic in 1995 they cutted out too much of it.
The Full versions are better to watch. i know a few people who are angry for the way USA Network to cut and edit SatAM.

[quote="[email protected]"]What about my mention of edits? :P

Ya know, I would've begged you for a month for copies of those tapes a year ago, but seeing as the DVD's come out in a week and a half, these's little point in messing with VHS now. Besides, Family Channel edited the show down so much that by the time the series got to USA....USA sped the tape up 30%. It really sucked. The original broadcasts were on Fox Kids. That's what we get on the DVD's.....UNCUT! *does happy dance*

You should get those segments preserved, for TMNT history's sake.

[quote="BrianReilly"]That's why I like Japanese TV. Only one commercial break on most shows.

Fox Family also butchered MegaMan when they aired in.

I have a whole tape of USA episodes somewhere.. not sure what episodes are on there though, it's been about six or seven years since I've looked at it. I know "the dimension x story" is on there. Did you know USA only aired that one time? It is because CBS started showing it in reruns. "Michelangelo Meets Bugman" only aired once on USA too.
Oddly, one episode that never aired on USA was "Enter: Mutagen Man". It was always skipped over.



Maybe I will capture them, now that I finally am able to capture.

Even though this hasn't been posted in years, I found this at the old rec.arts.animation from way back in 1995, showing the episodes that USA was reairing during the Fall/Winter of 1994-95.

LEGEND



year, chan: The copyright year on the episode and the network to which
it seems to have been released originally.


ldate, lt, lch: Date, slot (labeled a,b,c,d sequentially for a given
day), and network on which it was last seen.


title: The episode title. A title in square brackets is one I'm not
sure of. A title in parentheses represents an episode I've never seen.




year chan ldate lt lch title
1987 syn 11/14/94 a USA Turtle Tracks
1987 syn 11/15/94 a USA Enter the Shredder
1987 syn 11/16/94 a USA A Thing about Rats
1987 syn 11/17/94 a USA Hot Rodding Teenagers from Dimension X
1987 syn 11/18/94 a USA Shredder & Splintered
1988 syn 01/02/95 a USA Return of the Shredder
1988 syn 12/01/94 a USA Incredible Shrinking Turtles
1988 syn 12/01/94 b USA It Came from Beneath the Sewers
1988 syn 12/02/94 a USA The Mean Machines
1988 syn 12/02/94 b USA Curse of the Evil Eye
1988 syn 12/05/94 c USA Case of the Killer Pizzas
1988 syn 12/06/94 a USA Enter the Fly
1988 syn 12/06/94 b USA Invasion of the Punk Frogs
1988 syn 12/06/94 c USA Splinter No More
1988 syn 11/27/94 b USA Teenagers from Dimension X
1988 syn 11/28/94 a USA New York's Shiniest
1988 syn 11/28/94 b USA The Catwoman from Channel 6
1988 syn 11/28/94 c USA Return of the Technodrome
1989 syn 11/29/94 a USA Beneath These Streets
1989 syn 11/29/94 b USA Turtles on Trial
1989 syn 11/29/94 c USA Attack of the 50-Foot Irma
1989 syn 11/30/94 a USA The Maltese Hamster
1989 syn 11/30/94 b USA The Old Switcheroo
1989 syn 08/03/94 c USA Sky Turtles
1989 syn 11/30/94 c USA Burne's Blues
1989 syn 12/01/94 c USA The Fifth Turtle
1989 syn 12/04/94 a USA Enter the Rat King
1989 syn 12/04/94 b USA Turtles at the Earth's Core
1989 syn 12/05/94 a USA April Fool
1989 syn 12/05/94 b USA Attack of Big MACC
1989 syn 12/07/94 a USA Turtles, Turtles, Everywhere
1989 syn 01/02/95 b USA The Ninja Sword of Nowhere
1989 syn 01/03/95 a USA 20,000 Leaks under the City
1989 syn 01/03/95 b USA Take Me to Your Leader
1989 syn 01/04/95 a USA Four Musketurtles
1989 syn 01/04/95 b USA Cowabunga Shredhead
1989 syn 01/05/95 a USA Mister Ogg Goes to Town
1989 syn 01/05/95 b USA Invasion of the Turtle Snatchers
1989 syn 11/01/94 b USA Camera Bugged
1989 syn 11/01/94 c USA Green with Jealousy
1989 syn 11/02/94 a USA Return of the Fly
1989 syn 11/02/94 b USA Casey Jones - Outlaw Hero
1989 syn 11/02/94 c USA Mutagen Monster
1989 syn 11/03/94 a USA Corporate Raiders from Dimension X
1989 syn 11/03/94 b USA Pizza by the Shred
1989 syn 11/03/94 c USA Super Bebop and Mighty Rock Steady
1989 syn 11/04/94 a USA Beware of the Lotus
1989 syn 11/04/94 b USA Blast from the Past
1989 syn 11/06/94 a USA Michelangelo's Birthday
1989 syn 11/06/94 b USA Leatherhead, Terror of the Swamp
1989 syn 11/07/94 a USA Usagi Yojimbo
1989 syn 11/07/94 b USA Case of the Hot Kimono
1989 syn 11/07/94 c USA Usagi Come Home
1989 syn 11/08/94 a USA The Making of Metalhead
1989 syn 11/08/94 b USA Leatherhead Meets the Rat King
1989 syn 11/08/94 c USA The Turtle Terminator
1989 syn 11/09/94 a USA The Great Boldini
1989 syn 11/09/94 b USA The Missing Map
1989 syn 11/09/94 c USA The Gang's All Here
1989 syn 11/10/94 a USA The Grybyx
1989 syn 11/10/94 b USA Shredderville
1989 syn 11/10/94 c USA Bye, Bye, Fly
1989 syn 11/11/94 a USA The Big Rip Off
1989 syn 12/07/94 b USA The Big Break In
1989 syn 11/11/94 b USA The Big Blowout
1989 syn 11/13/94 a USA Plan Six from Outer Space
1992 USA 12/22/94 a USA Tower of Power
1992 USA 12/22/94 b USA Rust Never Sleeps
1992 USA 11/20/94 a USA A Real Snow Job
700 1992 USA 11/20/94 b USA Venice on the Half Shell
710 1992 USA 11/21/94 a USA Artless
720 1992 USA 11/21/94 b USA Ring of Fire
730 1992 USA 12/23/94 b USA The Irish Jig Is Up
740 1992 USA 10/24/94 a USA Shredder's New Sword
750 1992 USA 12/23/94 a USA The Lost Queen of Atlantis
760 1992 USA 12/20/94 a USA Turtles on the Orient Express
770 1992 USA 12/20/94 b USA April Gets in Dutch
780 1992 USA 12/21/94 a USA Northern Lights Out
790 1992 USA 12/21/94 b USA Elementary, My Dear Turtle
800 1990 CBS CBS Son of Return of the Fly II
810 1990 CBS CBS The Big Cufflink Caper!
820 1990 CBS 12/09/94 b USA Raphael Knocks 'em Dead
830 1990 CBS 12/11/94 b USA Bebop and Rock Steady Conquer the Universe
840 1990 CBS 12/11/94 a USA Raphael Meets His Match
850 1990 CBS 12/12/94 a USA Slash - The Evil Turtle from Dimension X
860 1990 CBS 12/12/94 b USA Leonardo Lightens Up
870 1990 CBS 12/12/94 c USA Were-Rats from Channel 6
880 1990 CBS 12/13/94 a USA Funny, They Shrunk Michelangelo
890 1990 CBS 12/13/94 b USA The Big Zipp Attack
900 1990 CBS 12/13/94 c USA Donatello Makes Time
910 1990 CBS 12/14/94 a USA Farewell Lotus Blossom
920 1990 CBS 12/14/94 b USA Rebel without a Fin
930 1990 CBS 12/14/94 c USA Rhino-Man
940 1990 CBS CBS Michelangelo Meets Bugman
950 1990 CBS 12/15/94 a USA Poor Little Rich Turtle
960 1990 CBS 12/15/94 b USA What's Michelangelo Good For?
970 1990 CBS 12/15/94 c USA Donatello's Degree
980 1990 CBS 12/16/94 a USA Leonardo vs. Tempestra


seq year chan ldate lt lch title
990 1990 CBS 12/16/94 b USA Raphael Drives 'em Wild
1000 1990 CBS 12/18/94 a USA Big Bug Blunder
1010 1990 CBS 12/18/94 b USA Beyond the Donatello Nebula
1020 1990 CBS 12/19/94 a USA The Foot Soldiers Are Revolting
1030 1990 CBS 12/19/94 b USA Unidentified Flying Leonardo
1040 1990 CBS 11/18/94 b USA Splinter Vanishes
1050 1990 syn 11/13/94 b USA Turtles of the Jungle
1060 1990 syn 11/14/94 b USA Michelangelo Toys Around
1070 1990 syn 11/14/94 c USA Peking Turtles
1080 1990 syn 11/16/94 b USA Turtlemaniac
1090 1990 syn 11/16/94 c USA Planet of the Turtles
1100 1990 syn 12/07/94 c USA Name That Toon
1110 1990 syn 12/08/94 b USA Menace Maestro, Please
1120 1990 syn 12/08/94 c USA Superhero for a Day
1130 1991 syn 11/15/94 b USA Shredder's Mom
1140 1991 syn 11/15/94 c USA Four Turtles and a Baby
1150 1991 syn 11/17/94 b USA Rondo in New York
1160 1991 syn 11/17/94 c USA Back to the Egg
1170 1991 syn 12/08/94 a USA The Turtles and the Hare
1180 1991 syn 12/09/94 a USA Once upon a Time Machine
1200 1991 CBS CBS The Dimension X Story
1210 1991 CBS 11/21/94 c USA My Brother, the Bad Guy
1220 1991 CBS 11/22/94 a USA Donatello's Badd Time
1230 1991 CBS CBS Planet of the Turtleoids
1240 1991 CBS 10/24/94 c USA Muckman Messes Up
1250 1991 CBS 12/26/94 a USA Michelangelo Meets Bugman Again
1260 1991 CBS 12/27/94 a USA Pirate Radio
1270 1991 CBS 12/03/94 b CBS Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko
1280 1991 CBS 12/10/94 b CBS Napoleon Bonafrog: Colossus of the Swamp
1290 1991 CBS 11/22/94 b USA Raphael versus the Volcano
1300 1991 CBS 11/22/94 c USA Landlord of the Flies
1310 1991 CBS 11/23/94 a USA Donatello's Duplicate
1320 1991 CBS 11/23/94 b USA The Ice Creature Cometh
1330 1991 CBS 11/23/94 c USA Leonardo Cuts Loose
1340 1991 CBS CBS [Enter: Mutagen Man]
1350 1991 CBS 11/25/94 a USA Leonardo, the Renaissance Turtle
1360 1991 CBS 11/27/94 a USA Zach and the Alien Invaders
1370 1991 CBS CBS Raphael, Turtle of a Thousand Faces
1375 1991 CBS 10/05/94 b USA Welcome Back Polarisoids
1380 1991 CBS 10/06/94 a USA Michelangelo, the Sacred Turtle
1390 1992 CBS 12/28/94 a USA Krangenstein Lives!
1400 1992 CBS 12/29/94 a USA Leonardo Is Missing
1410 1992 CBS 12/30/94 a USA Too Hot to Handle
1420 1992 CBS 10/09/94 a USA Nightmare in the Lair
1430 1992 CBS CBS [Super Irma]
1440 1992 CBS CBS [Slash Returns]
1450 1992 CBS 10/25/94 b USA Return of the Turtleoid
1460 1992 CBS 10/26/94 a USA Rock around the Block
1470 1992 CBS 10/26/94 b USA Shreeka's Revenge


seq year chan ldate lt lch title
1480 1992 CBS 10/26/94 c USA Adventures in Turtle-Sitting
1490 1992 CBS 10/27/94 a USA Phantom of the Sewers
1500 1992 CBS 10/27/94 b USA Polly Wanna Pizza
1510 1992 CBS CBS Sword of Yurikawa
1520 1992 CBS CBS Snakes Alive!
1530 1992 CBS 10/27/94 c USA Mr. Nice Guy
1540 1992 CBS 10/28/94 a USA Sleuth on the Loose
1550 1993 CBS CBS Night of the Dark Turtle
1560 1993 CBS CBS The Starchild
1570 1993 CBS CBS Dirk Savage: Mutant Hunter!
1580 1993 CBS CBS (Invasion of the Krangazoids)

Like others have posted, I remember being a little upset that various episodes were cut in favor of commercials. But I'm finding that it was wacky to air many episodes out of order. Do you really think USA did that to keep viewers by frequently "shifting" to different parts of the show? Also, even though USA had apparantly purchased the first 3 CBS seasons by that point, why is it that some episodes may have been missed?

I wonder if it's for the same reason Insane In The Membrane from the 2k3 show was never aired. I always thought Mutagen Man looked a bit too graphic.

I remember in The Foot Soldiers Are Revolting, they cut the scene where Shredder and Krang were in the life pod and Shredder wants Krang to jettison his body and Krang says his head is the most useless object.

Did they ever air any Red Sky episodes on USA Cartoon Express?

It was aired, that's how I saw it for the first time.

That's how I taped most of them off tv was via cartoon express.

My memory is much worse now, 7 years after I made that above post. But I'm pretty sure they never aired any red sky episodes.

You are correct.

I am not sure but I think the episode "Raphael Meets His Match" was edited as well when it was shown on the USA network.They edited the crap out of Sonic SATAM big time as another poster said.

Reviving a topic from back when I actually came on here a lot? Wow guys, now I feel old remembering posting in this topic 7 years ago :D

What were you wearing?

-ms

LOL seriously? :P

Weird... I never saw any CBS ep on USA except Planet Of The Turtleoids.

I'm not sure that I ever even knew the turtles were on the network. I seem to remember seeing "Artless" on TV, but I assume that might have aired exclusively on USA.

All 13 Euro-Cruise eps were exclusive to USA's Cartoon Express.

Still, this situation always reminds me of how I would religiously watch The Real Ghostbusters when it was in syndication, but as soon as USA got the rights, I started noticing eps that I had never seen before.