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Jester 08-20-2004 05:04 PM

Why blue, orange, and purple???
 
i know it was to sell toys to kids.....i guess my question really is why those colors??? why did raph retain the red bandana?? shouldn't leo, the leader, be the one who wore red??? i'm just wondering if there is some particular reason that blue, orange, and purple???

NeoBix 08-20-2004 05:19 PM

You'll have to excuse me, but why NOT blue, orange, and purple?

Why should red be the leader's color, and not blue? In fact, I've always thought of blue as more of a leader's color than red. Blue, to me, manifests valor, strength, and honor.

Red, to me, manifests more of a rebellious, bad attitude, tough guy kind of aura... which is why I think it fits Raphael's personality perfectly.

Orange? Well... I don't know, really. Orange really isn't one of the premium colors that people usually think of... but orange is bright and lively, just like Mikey. Mikey's great sense of humor and the comedian side of him are represented well through the color of orange.

As for purple... not sure... but it was a good choice. Donatello is a very balanced turtle. He's not the super funny one (like Mikey) and he's not the best fighter (like either Leo or Raph). Granted, he's probably the smartest one out of all of the turtles, when it comes to fixing things and machines and all that... but Donny has never really been prone to much criticism. He's always been just sort of the neutral turtle. Or maybe when they were picking colors for the turtles, someone in the studio just happened to draw the long straw for purple when it was Donatello's turn. :P

Jester 08-20-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoBix
You'll have to excuse me, but why NOT blue, orange, and purple?

Why should red be the leader's color, and not blue? In fact, I've always thought of blue as more of a leader's color than red. Blue, to me, manifests valor, strength, and honor.

Tru that makes sence.....i'm just wondering if there was a specific rerason or if it was just "hey why not orange, blue and purple??!!"

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Originally Posted by NeoBix
Red, to me, manifests more of a rebellious, bad attitude, tough guy kind of aura... which is why I think it fits Raphael's personality perfectly.

you make a lot of sence......it's now becoming very obvious how little i thought before i posted this :tgrin: the only reason i thought leo should stay red is cause it's the orignal color....and he's the head of the group,.....but raph is a hot head with a red hot temper.

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Originally Posted by NeoBix
Orange? Well... I don't know, really. Orange really isn't one of the premium colors that people usually think of... but orange is bright and lively, just like Mikey. Mikey's great sense of humor and the comedian side of him are represented well through the color of orange.

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ok.....i won't even say it again.....it's getting kinda redundant....wild bright flashy....Orange...fits to me....

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Originally Posted by NeoBix
As for purple... not sure... but it was a good choice. Donatello is a very balanced turtle. He's not the super funny one (like Mikey) and he's not the best fighter (like either Leo or Raph). Granted, he's probably the smartest one out of all of the turtles, when it comes to fixing things and machines and all that... but Donny has never really been prone to much criticism. He's always been just sort of the neutral turtle. Or maybe when they were picking colors for the turtles, someone in the studio just happened to draw the long straw for purple when it was Donatello's turn. :P

ha.....posible.....purple is bright....and donny is the brightest bulb in the preverbial lamp. but now i'm just reaching.....well thought out buddy.....

Ryona 08-20-2004 06:19 PM

Nicely said, NeoBix. :)

My take on it is pretty simular.

Blue seems to represent spirituality, calmness, freedom, and everlasting.

Purple seems to represent knowledge, mystery, and creativity.

Red seems to represent anger, lust, and mortality.

Orange seems to represent healing, balance, compassion, and charm.

I can see what you mean, Jester, about Leo being the one to keep the original color because of him being the "front" turtle or "representitive" of the group, but I'm glad that Leo has the blue color. It suits him so much better.

JDavis 08-20-2004 06:22 PM

Plus, out of the three primary and three secondary colors, only yellow and green remain. Yellow would not have looked so good, and green... would blend with their skin too much :P

Ryona 08-20-2004 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JDavis
Plus, out of the three primary and three secondary colors, only yellow and green remain. Yellow would not have looked so good, and green... would blend with their skin too much :P

Yes, that too! :P

Well, there's always black, white, brown, and pink. ...Though, they wouldn't have been so great either. :P

PizzaPower 08-20-2004 06:26 PM

so the colors they picked was so cool, we all agree now??

NeoBix 08-20-2004 06:29 PM

very fun topic, Jester. glad you thought of it bro.

and yeah Ryo looks like you had the same idea as I did with the colors, just a few differences.

I think their colors are perfect for each turtle.

and, a funny thing about the reference to yellow...

in the first turtles arcade game, Mikey is more of a yellow color than orange... and if you'll notice, the joystick on the arcade machine for Mikey is clearly YELLOW, and not orange... what was Konami thinking? or maybe they just ran out of orange paint? :P

PizzaPower 08-20-2004 06:33 PM

well back then the grapfics for making games I don't think they could do orange.

Jester 08-20-2004 06:39 PM

yeah...i just wanted to see what you all thought....i never really thought all thatmuch about it....obviously...till i found out the mirage tmnt were all red. i must say that i can't see the guys in another colors then red and their toon colors....

Ryona 08-20-2004 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PizzaPower
well back then the grapfics for making games I don't think they could do orange.

Actually, 8-bit graphics can produce 256 different colors. Orange is certainly one of them. 16-bit graphics can produce well over a thousand.
So, while the home version of TMNT II is 8-bit, the arcade version of TMNT II is 16-bit. most likely they used a bright, light shade of orange for Michaelangelo. I do remember the joystick and buttons clearly being yellow however!

^_^

NeoBix 08-20-2004 07:02 PM

I don't know about you guys... but I remember when I first saw the arcade game, and I thought those graphics were just AMAZING. Back in '89 or '90 when I first saw it, those graphics were very impressive. Bright shiny graphics and colors and ALL FOUR turtles can play at once against a billion foot soldiers?!?! MADNESS! lol... that game was SO great. :D

Kazari 08-20-2004 08:28 PM

well they all had red in the comics but it also goes back to their personality..blue for calm and serene like Leo..purple for mellowness...and loyalty. Orange for fun..and raph for anger

Karai 08-20-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoBix
I don't know about you guys... but I remember when I first saw the arcade game, and I thought those graphics were just AMAZING. Back in '89 or '90 when I first saw it, those graphics were very impressive. Bright shiny graphics and colors and ALL FOUR turtles can play at once against a billion foot soldiers?!?! MADNESS! lol... that game was SO great. :D

I think it's still pretty amazing.
But yeah, I believe the colors of the Turtle's masks were chosen to match the brightness of the sprites' skin, so Michelangelo probably came off looking more yellow because his skin was close to neon green. I guess Konami/Ultra just wanted to make sure you could see him. :wink:

Coola Yagami 08-20-2004 09:39 PM

actually, mikey's color was more yellowish in the first 5 eps of the old show. maybe that's why he was like that in the arcade game.

i wonder how the new toon woulda fared if they all wore red. i mean, that's how they were meant to be.

NeoBix 08-20-2004 10:11 PM

In my honest opinion, I believe that it was the decision to change them from ALL red to individual, unique colors, like they did, which led to the whole wave of turtlemania during the late 80s and early to mid 90s.

Granting each turtle his own color not only made it easier for people to recognize and tell apart the turtles from one another, but it also bestowed upon each turtle their own autonomy. When fans of TMNT think of their favorite turtle, they have a way to familiarize with and recognize that turtle.

"Oh, I loved Michaelangelo. He was the orange, funny one, right?"

"Who was that dude who wore blue and had the swords? Oh yeah, it was Leonardo. God, I used to love that show."

"Raphael was such a bad ass. He was the red one with those knife dealies... what were those called... oh yeah, sais!"

"Do you remember Donny? He was the coolest! Yeah, yeah! The one in purple, who could fix ANYTHING! That's the one!"

Without their own colors, TMNT would not have grown into the huge deal it is today. Here, once again, in the year 2004, we are experiencing sort of what I will refer to as a "rebirth" of the turtlemania that struck the world back in the 80s and early to mid 90s. The new show has especially sparked people's imaginations once again. New comers and old comers alike. It's good that a new generation can sort of experience what we experienced, although nothing will ever be the same as the very first turtlemania back in the day. :D

so, no... in the new show, if they had chosen to make all of them red instead of their own colors, I hardly think it would be as successful as it is. in fact, I think it would've failed miserably by now.

Serp 08-21-2004 07:33 AM

I like the Idea of the turtles having different color headbands. In the toon if they all had the same color bands it may make them seem a bit bland.

Kali 08-21-2004 02:58 PM

Well, geez, everybody's already said everything I was going to say! :lol: So I guess I agree, basic colors are appealing and easy to recognize. Could you really imagine having to say "The turtle in the yellow-green bandanna" or "I like the guy in periwinkle!"?

And once they had the colors, they made the perfect choices for each turtle. Their colors suit them.

Whitewolf89 08-21-2004 06:22 PM

I agree with you, and everyone else, on all counts, Kali. The guys' colors suit them, so why sweat the load over it? Has our questioner ever stopped to think that Pete and Kev picked those colors out themselves?

And I can think of a worse color than periwinkle. What about chartruse (sp?)? THAT'S a color that I'd hate to see ANYONE in, to say nothing of our guys! And knowing THEM, they'd buck up on it, anyway!

XERO 08-21-2004 08:11 PM

For the record, IMO, White represents adaption. :D


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