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Anarky 07-30-2005 08:51 AM

Censorship and toons in the US
 
Hello everybody,

I have been thinkig during the last few days. Not that I wouldn't think permanently, but that really bugged me.

Anyways, you all remember the "Mikey's chucks are too violent"-issue of the old toon which eventually led into Mikey using a grappling hook. Anyways, I noted a similar situation during the last Power Rangers SPD-episode I saw. Omega Ranger turned up and "Froze time to pick the laser pellets" out of the air. And since PR is using Dekaranger footage this season, I heard that they were using real bullets in the original. Also, in an episode of YGO, Yugi and his buddies were afraid of a guy making a gun with his fingers.

So fact is, that they actually are censoring stuff.

But on the other hand, Mikey's been using his chucks for three seasons now and nobody complained... I think. And He-Man still swings his really big sword against evil. And then people still hit each other and sometimes, even blood flows.

So, what I don't get is that sort of double moral they're using. So, are they actually laws for cartoons and the violence therein? And are there other extreme examples of this violence thing? I know 4kids butches entire series, do they have reasons for that?

Anarchistguy 07-30-2005 09:09 AM

They censor anime, but allow Leonardo to cut off the Shredder's head off in the new toon. (I know that wasn't really his head) and the entire Same as it Never Was episode where at the end, Shredder is killed ON SCREEN. I don't get it.

DrSpengler 07-30-2005 09:24 AM

What I don't get is why they edit American cartoons that airred maybe ten years ago. Nicktoons TV is BRUTAL.

Rocko's Modern Life has gotten quite a few hacks; mostly to their "penis jokes". In one episode Rocko is in the woods foraging for food. He goes to a berry bush and pinches a plump red berry. A bear then leaps out from behind the bush, squeeling and clutching his crotch. The bear then runs away. They editted out everything after Rocko approaching the bush.

Then in another episode, Heffer visits a cow farm and goes to sleep in the barn. In the morning, the farmer starts attachingsuck-o-matic utter suckers to all the cows. He attaches one to Heffer "below the belt". Heffer goes "Hey-" then the thing turns on and he starts moaning with pleasure and then falls over. At the end of the episode before he and Rocko leave Heffer says he has to say goodbye to someone special. He goes to the barn and bids farewell to the suck-o-matic.

Yeah, all that got cut out.

They also edit the stupidest stuff out of Animainiacs. In an episode where they're parodying the Maltese Falcon, everyone is trying to get their hands on the Maltese Pigeon. Minerva Mink corners Dot and yells "Give me the bird!", Dot replies "We can't. It's a kid's show." They cut the "It's a kid's show" part out of that exchange.

I haven't seen it, and I watcht he show often, so I'm also assuming they've cut out the "finger Prince" gag.


Then there's Cartoon Network. They edit the crap out of Looney Toons, Tom & Jerry and other classic cartoons for content. Gags where characters shoot themselves in the head with guns are cut out. As are all "black face" jokes. And in every episode of Tom & Jerry "the Mammy" has been dubbed over to sound less racially innappropriate.

So yeah, we aren't just editting Japanese garbage to Hell, we're also editting good American cartoons to please todays tender masses.

Anarchistguy 07-30-2005 09:36 AM

Good Lord, that's just sick...Fox Family cut out parts of the Real Ghostbusters and in the Mega Man cartoon (The Mega Man X episode), they cut out the part where X starts blasting everything to Hell and for the hell of it, every bit where violence is seen.

Deathknight 07-30-2005 02:20 PM

The Fox Family edits of MegaMan were mostly for time although they did edit out quite a few shots of the robots getting hit with stuff. I have about 12 of the edited Fox Family eps, all 27 encut on DVD, and 25 uncut eps on VHS. Naturally they edit stuff like that out. Probably because they don't realize it until it's aired a few times. The thing about Rocko approaching the bushes, the last few times it aired on Nickolodeon itself that was edited out as well. At the time I didn't even know that even though I saw nearly all of Rocko's Modern Life the first time each ep aired. Anyone hear anything about a DVD release of Rocko's Modern Life? I know they just released most of the original Ren and Stimpy eps and I'm hoping for Rocko's Modern Life next.

Spitfire 07-30-2005 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler
What I don't get is why they edit American cartoons that airred maybe ten years ago. Nicktoons TV is BRUTAL.

Rocko's Modern Life has gotten quite a few hacks; mostly to their "penis jokes". In one episode Rocko is in the woods foraging for food. He goes to a berry bush and pinches a plump red berry. A bear then leaps out from behind the bush, squeeling and clutching his crotch. The bear then runs away. They editted out everything after Rocko approaching the bush.

Then in another episode, Heffer visits a cow farm and goes to sleep in the barn. In the morning, the farmer starts attachingsuck-o-matic utter suckers to all the cows. He attaches one to Heffer "below the belt". Heffer goes "Hey-" then the thing turns on and he starts moaning with pleasure and then falls over. At the end of the episode before he and Rocko leave Heffer says he has to say goodbye to someone special. He goes to the barn and bids farewell to the suck-o-matic.

Yeah, all that got cut out.

I REMEMBER THAT O_O Ahh the 90's....things were more free!

Mikey's chucks got taken out because Mobsters were using Nunchucks.

They censore stuff because they want to avoid a lawsuit. Espcially in the US. Most parents will let their kids watch movies with sex in and they don't care but if there's a drop of blood in a kids program they freak out and think
"OH MY GOD I CAN SUE FOR THIS! Yay! I'll make money and be in the news! And then the show will get taken off the air and my kid will be mad at me! USA! USA!"

GAH ><

Turtledude2k3 07-30-2005 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx
I REMEMBER THAT O_O Ahh the 90's....things were more free!

Mikey's chucks got taken out because Mobsters were using Nunchucks.

They censore stuff because they want to avoid a lawsuit. Espcially in the US. Most parents will let their kids watch movies with sex in and they don't care but if there's a drop of blood in a kids program they freak out and think
"OH MY GOD I CAN SUE FOR THIS! Yay! I'll make money and be in the news! And then the show will get taken off the air and my kid will be mad at me! USA! USA!"

GAH ><

Well it'[s true they do that.. Heck this is something people do to make a quicj buck.. It's tupid.. and retarded... Remember the "hot coffee" thingy going on a few weeks ago, well a 80+ year old grandma is sueing the people who made GTA: SA and she did some mistakes over it.. She bought the game when her kid was 14!!

Spitfire 07-30-2005 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtledude2k3
Well it'[s true they do that.. Heck this is something people do to make a quicj buck.. It's tupid.. and retarded... Remember the "hot coffee" thingy going on a few weeks ago, well a 80+ year old grandma is sueing the people who made GTA: SA and she did some mistakes over it.. She bought the game when her kid was 14!!

And for PC, she may be 80 but if your gona buy your kid a PC game you need to realize that it can be modded. They even tell parents that at the counters when they buy their kids the games. When I was 16 they would stop me too and tell me "You need parents to buy this and that" It's not the stores fault they warn the parents. The parents just don't listen. And they tell you the games can be modded. I've heard it before the Hot Coffee mod and now even more since it's happened.

TMNT-Leonardo 07-30-2005 10:44 PM

Deka Break, or Omega Ranger if you prefer, doesn't feeze time with his Bray Throttle. It makes his right hand faster then the speed of light, that's why he's able to get the bullets, he simply grabs then EXTREMLY fast.

Altough I could be wrong in the case of Omega Ranger, since I haven't been up to date with Power Rangers lately, they could have changed it. I've been watching Sentai mostly, almost done Dekaranger! Funny and serious at the same time. Never knew there Power Ranger fans here too.

Anyways, editing for US TV is nothing new. Dragon Ball Z, is HEAVILY edited. The original Japanese version had lots of blood, and lots of other stuff that definately isn't good for kids (DBZ in Japan is suppose to be for like 15+).

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, was none less. In fact, the footage they used from Zyuranger, was edit down too. Remember when Green Ranger attacks Zack in, Green With Evil Part 1? They cut a pretty violent part there.

In Zyuranger, Goushi, Mammoth Ranger, tries to kick Burai, the Dragon Ranger, but Burai grabs Goushi's leg and hits him where it "hurts".

BTW, this has nothing to do with the topic, but in MMPR, Toei filmed extra footage, known as Zyu2 to most, that was to be used specifically in Power Rangers only. The more you know... :D

Mikey the Party Turtle 07-31-2005 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TMNT-Leonardo
Dragon Ball Z, is HEAVILY edited.

Not anymore. They now air DBZ uncut at night with a PG rating. Of course, there's no cussing and the regular added lines (that's a dubbing decision by FUNimation.) but nudity and violence are intact. So now Goku's ass and Gohan urinating can be seen by all!

It'll be interesting when Naruto airs though.

Deathknight 07-31-2005 05:03 PM

When Naruto airs in the US, the only ep I think I'm going to watch is one with Haku in it because I want to know if they actually do decide to make him female.

Mikey the Party Turtle 07-31-2005 08:13 PM

Erhm....I don't think they will, otherwise it'd ruin the hilarious moment with Naruto. :lol:

But then again, they had Yuan from Shenmue II become a female when the game came out on XBox over here.

TMNT-Leonardo 07-31-2005 08:18 PM

You gotta remember, things DO change and get messed when they get "americainized". Sentai is a good example of change. :D

Raphael29 08-03-2005 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler
What I don't get is why they edit American cartoons that airred maybe ten years ago. Nicktoons TV is BRUTAL.

Rocko's Modern Life has gotten quite a few hacks; mostly to their "penis jokes". In one episode Rocko is in the woods foraging for food. He goes to a berry bush and pinches a plump red berry. A bear then leaps out from behind the bush, squeeling and clutching his crotch. The bear then runs away. They editted out everything after Rocko approaching the bush.

Then in another episode, Heffer visits a cow farm and goes to sleep in the barn. In the morning, the farmer starts attachingsuck-o-matic utter suckers to all the cows. He attaches one to Heffer "below the belt". Heffer goes "Hey-" then the thing turns on and he starts moaning with pleasure and then falls over. At the end of the episode before he and Rocko leave Heffer says he has to say goodbye to someone special. He goes to the barn and bids farewell to the suck-o-matic.

Yeah, all that got cut out.

Okay that sucks, I had no idea they were editing the classsic nicktoons, is there any place where we can get the original versions of the old nicktoon shows on DVD? I mean I remeber when Rocko first started I saw just about every episode when they originally aired and I was 9 when it started, I grew up just fine, I don't see what the big deal is. They really need to stop all of this pointless editing, it's just dumb, and it costs them money to do it in the first place.


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