Street Fighter Alpha: Generations (SPOILERS)
 

Just watched the DVD. Well, let's get started...

And if you didn't read it in the title SPOILERS

It was both a prequel AND a sequel to the last Alpha movie, so either description is right, I suppose. It starts out with the origin of Akuma and his eventual murder of Goutetsu and later Gouken. It also features the origin of Ryu; he's Akuma's son who was hidden from Akuma shortly after he was born. His mother died giving birth.

Dear God. This movie was JUST. LIKE. STAR WARS.

So much so that it was almost funny. Akuma fell in love with the daughter of Goutetsu, his withered old master, and they had a baby. He later "turned to the Dark Hadou" and, in a rage, killed Goutetsu. The girl got pregnant but died during birth and gave her son, Ryu, to Gouken (Akuma's former training partner and master of the Good Hadou). Gouken gave Ryu to an old monk and martial arts master to keep him safe from Akuma.

Yeah, you can see the similarities.

Continuity-wise, it sincs up with the last Alpha movie pretty well. Only a few things wrong. For one, Ryu seems to be protrayed almost as a novice in this movie and gets beaten by the old Master at the beginning fairly easy. He certainly was a much better fighter in the last movie. And the only other issue is that the place where he and Akuma have their showdown looks nothing like the place that was shown at the end of the first Alpha movie (a beach). Other than that, it picks up where the last flick left off quite nicely and answers several nagging questions.

The animation was alright. Might've just been my DVD, but character sorta "blinked" when they were just standing there. The fights were extremely fluid and well done. We finally, at very long last, got to see Ryu vs Akuma. the USA Street Fighter series had Ken, Guile and Bison all fight Akuma, but not Ryu. The last Alpha movie ended with Ryu just about to fight Akuma. And Akuma had "easter egg" cameos in both Street Fighter II the movie and Street Fighter II V, so he never got to fight Ryu.

To be honest, I was a little disappointed. Not with the quality of the fight, as it was animated magnificently, but with it's length. The whole movie is only 45 minutes-long, and the fight happens at the very end.

Also, because it's so short, we don't get many characters. Sakura is forced in there when she really shouldn't have been. She just seems to waste valuable time. Also, who on earth would WANT Sakura fan-service (there's a bath scene, but no tit-shots, you pedophiles)? On the bright side, we got to see Ryu wail on her pretty hard when they sparred. Ken shows up at the end but doesn't even get to fight. In fact, we never get to see him even interact with Ryu. Aside from characters like Goutetsu and Gouken, that's it.

The dub. My god, the dub. I don't get what went wrong! Usually Street Fighter gets a fantastic english dub. I think ADV did Alpha and Street Fighter II the Movie. They sure didn't do it this time. For a prime example of how awful this dub was, they hired some gangsta rapper to be the voice of Akuma. Good gravy.

"I wuz rite 2 walk tha paff uv tha Dark Hadou, Gotezzu. Tha powah cohsez thru me!"

It HURTS. Sakura is poorly voiced as well and Ken sounds like he's at least 40. The only voice I really liked was the old Master.

All-in-all it was worse than the last Alpha flick, to be certain. And the $20 pricetag certainly isn't worth 45 minutes.

But if you're a die-hard Street Fighter fan and you've been aching to see Ryu fight Akuma, then I recommend you pick it up. That's the only thing this movie was good for.

:o Well I hope you didn't buy this dvd

Of course I did! I'm one of those poor unfortunate die-hard Street Fighter fans.:|

On the brightside, I work at a DVD store so I got the movie 35% off.

I heard Ken doesn't even fight in this movie. Is this true?

Not on screen, anyway. The old Master ("Grandpa" as they call him) won't let Ken interfere with Ryu's battle against Akuma. So Ken gets ready to fight, they scene-change to something else, and when they come back Grandpa is sitting on Ken's back. Kinda lame. But then, it was only 45 minutes-long.

So basically we see Ryu and Akuma's backstory... Ryu kicks the crap out of Sakura, but not before Sakura gives her legions of fans some skin... Ryu and Akuma finally duke it out.. and Ken is just there for the sake of being there...?

EXACTLY!

Except the summary makes it sound ten-times cooler than the execution.

EDIT: Ooh, three "ex-" words in one post. That must mean I'm EXTREEEEME!

I just saw this movie, and it was.. well. the first one was much better, this one wasnt bad, but i dont know. it felt lacking. oh well.

sorry if this is necroposting. im still not totally clear on that whole concept.

It's better than making a new thread, that's for sure.

I don't think necro-posting is "illegal" so long as you have something worth saying. "LOL:D " being an example of something NOT worth saying.

At least, that's the way *I* understand it.

So... This movie is the sequel to Street FIghter Alpha, which was a sequel to the Street Fighter series that used to air on USA Network?

Akuma... I think I remember one episode on the USA Network where Ken fought this one guy... I think he was Akuma...on some kind of rock palform...

But I thought Akuma was defeated by Ken, who then declared himself the best fighter in the world? Or was that Ryu who said that?

I don't know.. I don't remember the cartoon that well...

My point... I'm interested in seeing the Street Fighter mythos, and what exactly is the order I should watch them?

The cartoon, Street Fighter II, Alpha, then Generations?

No, the two Street Fighter Alpha movies exist in their very own continuity. There are 3 animated Street Fighter continuities.

1: Street Fighter II the animated movie and Street Fighter II V the anime series (which was a prequel to the movie)

2: Street Fighter the Series on USA. The American series (though animated in Japan)

3: Street Fighter Alpha the Movie and Street Fighter Alpha: Generations

Yes, that was an episode of the USA series, which again, is not in continuity with the Alpha movies. Akuma actually starred in 2 episodes (with cameo appearances in a few others). In his first episode he battled Guile and Bison. In his second episode they adapted the Alpha background story of Akuma killing Gouken. That second one is the episode you're thinking of. Ken does defeat Akuma at the very end after Akuma distorts reality to give himself an advantage (creating the towering rock platform you're thinking of). And yes, Ryu calls Ken the greated fighter in the world.


Well, like I said, there are 3 different animated continuities.

For the first continuity you'll probably want to watch the II V series first and then watch II the Movie, though there are a few continuity errors between the two. There are two versions of the Movie out there, the Japanese version and the American version. The differences are that the American version cuts out nude shots of Chun Li's butt and chest, while the Japanese version leaves it intact. However, the Japanese version has god awful keyboard-quality orchestraional music that doesn't fit the tone of the movie what-so-ever. The American version has a bitchen hardrock soundtrack that really livens up the flick.

The USA series BORROWS elements and concepts from the live action Van Damme movie but is not, I repeat, IS NOT a sequel to the movie. It only borrows the more interesting ideas (like Charlies from the Alpha games becoming Blanka and Shadaloo being a warring nation). The first season is pretty weak, but the second season is a major improvement and has some of the best Street Fighter animation you'll ever see (particularly in the season opener). All that AND there's an episode that adapts Final Fight.

The Alpha movies are pretty straight-forward. Watch Alpha the Movie first and then Generations.


Now a few packaging errors that might lead you astray:

The description on the back of the box for Alpha the Movie declares it to be a sequel to the II V series. It is NOT, I can assure you.

The description on the back of the box for Generations declares it to be a prequel to Alpha the Movie. It is NOT, I can assure you.

Manga Entertainment has always had a huge problem getting accurate information on the back of their movie cases. They called Ninja Ressurection a sequel to Ninja Scroll; an absolute lie.

All these years and they still can't get things right.

wow! Great information! Thank you DrSplenger... I"ll keep an eye out for those movies/shows...

Sorry for doubleposting, but I had an slightly offtopic question that I wanted to ask, and I was afraid no one would notice it if I edited my post...

Anyways.. Dr. Splenger..you mentioned Ninja Resurrection and that it was NOT an sequel to Ninja Scroll?

Is it a different continuity? I remember at my local store, I saw a copy of Ninja Resurrection and this 26 episode series about Jiboh (sp?) and some various characters from Ninja Scroll

Are those not related (continuity-wise) to the kickass movie Ninja Scroll?

they arent related, but ninja ressurection was sort of made as a "sequal".. officially they are in no way related, but ressurection is sort of a continuation of those characters.. sort of..

butl like spengs said. ressurection is NOT a sequal to ninja scroll.

oh okay, thanks for the information. That's what I thought myself.. that it was just another movie featuring the characters with a plot that in no way was connected to the first Ninja Scroll movie.

How is the movie? I've always considered buying it. I heard Jiboh loses an eye.