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Shadow Leonardo 12-10-2005 11:14 PM
King Kong
 
This film looks pretty intresting from what I've seen in the trailers, it looks like it's nearly staying true to the original 1933 version (settings, and the dinosaurs) and won't be butchered like the 70's version. Also it's done by the same people who did Lord of the Rings, so I'll probaly see it on opening day. If I can that is.

Barkworm 12-11-2005 01:08 AM
I'll definitely see it but I'm not quite sure what I should expect. A three hour monster movie might be a bit too much...

Doppleganger 12-11-2005 10:35 AM
Ooh yeah I'll definitely be seeing it. Looks promising. :)

Shadow Leonardo 12-11-2005 11:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkworm
I'll definitely see it but I'm not quite sure what I should expect. A three hour monster movie might be a bit too much...
3 hours? Oh, well maybe I'll still see it but I really can't sit through long movies though LotR I could handle . :ohwell:

Cerpin Taxt 12-11-2005 11:20 AM
I was lucky to see a press showing of it recently. I, personally, didn't think it was all too special.

Turtledude2k3 12-13-2005 05:03 PM
I hope it really does well like Lord of the rings.. What I mean is Peter jackson did such an excellent job translating the book to the movie well and I really hope this new movie does the same..

ZariusTwo 12-13-2005 07:07 PM
Looks samey to me, after watching Narnia, I have higher expectations for this...

Barkworm 12-14-2005 05:24 PM
Ok, I just came back from the theatre and I think this movie re-defines the term "mixed bag". Let's start with the bitching:
  • the first hour is a goddamn crime
  • Jack Black's acting is as wooden as the desk I'm sitting at
  • As much as I like Adrien Brody, his role was pretty superfluous
  • just like most of the support cast
  • Brontosaur stampede sucked, the Brontosaurs looked crappy
  • A lot of cheesy dialogue
  • Thomas Kretschmann's accent is Germany's shame (seriously, no one I know talks like that!)
  • some of the CG looked just horribly fake
  • Extremely annoying slow-motion (S-K-U... SHUT UP!!!)
  • Cookie-cutter soundtrack
  • THIS MOVIE IS WAY TOO LONG!!! (and this is coming from someone who loves long movies)

Then there's is one HUGE pro about this movie: Kong. The big monkey is just awesome in every way, especially when he whops Tyrannosaur butt. You actually feel with him and the end almost made me cry.
This could have been a great movie. If it had been like an hour shorter. This way it's just meh...

Turtledude2k3 12-15-2005 12:22 AM
I heard the new one has spiders in it? Is the spiders scary and big? Are they in groups?

Barkworm 12-15-2005 01:13 AM
The spiders are pretty pointless but yes, they are big and look cool. Not as cool as the giant leeches though, those were CREEPY.

Spitfire 12-15-2005 01:24 AM
I think Lord Of The Rings let Jackson do alot more in terms of movie length so he didn't think to cut out as much when he was editing it.

Barkworm 12-15-2005 01:41 AM
He should have cut more out though. So many scenes were just completely pointless.

Turtledude2k3 12-16-2005 04:44 PM
If he cut out alot of the scenes, the movie could be maybe 30 minutes less?

DrSpengler 12-16-2005 07:45 PM
I give the movie an additional 10 cool points for having a cage on the ship labeled "Sumatran Rat Monkey".

Peter Jackson's not too good to forget about Dead/Alive. 8)

Barkworm 12-17-2005 01:49 AM
How did you like the movie apart from that (I'd like to get some discussion going but it seems like no one wants to watch it)?

Anarky 12-17-2005 02:08 AM
I don't think I'm goin gto see this. Sure, the previews look good, and the setting sounds like it could be good, but there's two major factors that make me not want to go and see it:
  • Kong: He looks bad, he looks fake. Just another CGI-monstrosity on the big screen. Sure, it is amazing what people can do when using CGI, but that doesn't mean that you have to use it. Okay, I admit it, I'd have no idea how to pull this one of differently, but it's just not my cup of tea I guess.
  • Peter Jackson: I generally don't like his movies, they're too long and too full of useless crap. I mean, everybody loved LotR, and everybody loves this, so I figure that he kept his style, and I honestly don't feel like a three hour movie with about half an hour of something happening.

So that's my beef with Peter "ZOMG! Teh Jeeniuz" Jackson...

Barkworm 12-17-2005 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Anarky
  • Kong: He looks bad, he looks fake.
This is only true for the long shots, the close ups are absolutely amazing. Definitely some of the best CG I've ever seen.

DrSpengler 12-17-2005 10:29 AM
Spoiler:
Saw it yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it.

The bronto stampede looked a little fake, but that's my only complaint in regards to the special effects.

The fight between Kong and the 3 T-Rexs was amazing. Also liked the bit with the giant insects in the valley; those leeches were nasty.

I liked Kong's portrayal in this movie better than any of the previous versions. In the original flick he was just sorta "there", in the 76 version he was a gigantic pervert whom I didn't like one bit, but in this one you really feel for him. He doesn't want anything to do with Ann sexually (like the last movie laid on way too thick), he was just lonely and looking for some companionship. All the monkey bones in his cave seemed to imply that he was the last of his kind.

The bit in Central Park, where they were having fun on the ice, was great. And the GCI effects did what no suit or even stop-motion could do; and that's what really gave Kong his personality and made me feel he was a real character and not just some special effect. The bit where Ann is dancing for him and he's laughing and sighing and rolling his eyes and clapping; he REALLY looked like a big monkey.

The CGI in some places (particularly the bronto stampede) looked a little sketchy, but I assume that's because they focused most of their time, effort and money on Kong-himself. And it really pays off, as Kong looks fantastic.


And yeah. It's a bit too long.

ZariusTwo 12-17-2005 12:31 PM
Who f'ing tries to make a film the length of LOR? Pete, work with what the crowd want, LOR "worked" because it weas based on an endless novel series, Kong was NEVER as long, and the public KNOW that, hence why your films' making only 800 bucks.

Barkworm 12-18-2005 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrSpengler
[...]in the 76 version he was a gigantic pervert whom I didn't like one bit[...]
Right now I'm watching "King Kong Lives". What a load of bullsh*t! :lol:


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