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Turtledude2k3 01-22-2006 07:44 PM

Which batman movie is your favorite
 
Vote on your favorite batman movie animated or real-live actors..

Jester 01-22-2006 08:38 PM

Ohhh, had you not added the Batman:TAS movies this would be easy. Batman with Michael Keaton, followed very closely by Begins. The Adam West movie is great for a laugh. I love Phantasm and Return of the Joker. Aren't there more BM:TAS movies? One with Freeze?

Turtledude2k3 01-22-2006 08:45 PM

Whoops. DANG! I forgot about that one.

I added in the batman animated series movie because if your a fan of batman and you love the cartoon series, why not add them in.

DrSpengler 01-22-2006 08:46 PM

Mask of the Phantasm is the finest piece of Batman media ever produced.

Turtledude2k3 01-22-2006 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler
Mask of the Phantasm is the finest piece of Batman media ever produced.

Did they release it on dvd?

ThirdMarioBro 01-22-2006 08:49 PM

I find Batman Returns to be so fu*ked up that it is entertaining.

Dr. Doom 01-22-2006 08:51 PM

Phantasm is very high on my "need to watch" list. I've heard nothing but amazing things about it.

Turtledude2k3 01-22-2006 08:53 PM

They have all episodes of The Animated series on dvd and they haven't even gotten Mask of The Phantasm on dvd?

what gives?

Anarky 01-22-2006 09:31 PM

Too bad I can only choose one movie... because I really think that we should split BTAS (incl. Batman Beyond) and the Live action movies.

Anyways, I voted "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker", just because it was really nicely done and it was a cool story.

Batman I was really cool, dark and gritty. It had a cool story, but I didn't like what they did to the Joker. And the Batmobile was sorta odd. But other than that it was a great movie.

Batman Returns was rather good too, it was just that I never got who this Max Schreck-Guy's supposed to be. But Michelle Pfeiffer does the best Catwoman I have seen to date.

Batman Forever was, despite all the neon colours and Jim Carrey on Ecstasy, a really good movie I enjoy over and over again.

Batman & Robin was by far the worst of the four. I mean... nipples?

Batman Begins was really, really good, but I'd need to watch it again, before I'm able to make a statement. All I remember is that Bale kicked ass.

Batman of the sixties was... uhm... so bad that it was good again? I love the part where they found out who's behind the mysterious hologram of the ship. Hahahaha!

Mask of the Phantasm... never seen it.

Return of the Joker: See above.

And I think you skipped "Mystery of the Batwoman" which was really cool too.

Turtledude2k3 01-22-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky
Too bad I can only choose one movie... because I really think that we should split BTAS (incl. Batman Beyond) and the Live action movies.


And I think you skipped "Mystery of the Batwoman" which was really cool too.

To the first part, I wanted to include all batman movies even the animted ones.

To the 2nd part, what is this mystery of the batwomen?

The Stryker 01-22-2006 09:38 PM

Mystery of the batwoman is another Animated movie.

Anyway I have a sick love affair with Return of the Joker but Begins gets my vote just for getting me back into Batman.

ZariusTwo 01-22-2006 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky
Batman of the sixties was... uhm... so bad that it was good again? I love the part where they found out who's behind the mysterious hologram of the ship. Hahahaha!o.

It was made back when the Batman comics were cheap and humerous...so in that regard, its' probably one of the best interpretations of that era, and is just as great today. None of the original series was ever played seriously, most of that was deliberate...

Mystery of the Batwoman has its' fans, but its' nowhere near as popular as Return of the Joker or Mask of the Phantasm, it strays a lot from the familiar Batman myths and is generally a good mystery/romantic comedy, highlights are Bruces' phone coversation with Barbera where you can just tell from the ackwardness that there presently doing it when this movie takes place in between.

Batman Begins is solid, slightly overrated, nowhere near as memorable as Burtons' Batman, but it returns the character to his core strengths and redeems him theatriclly.

The Batman vs Dracula is also a suprisingly dark and very well animated story, Viki Vale appearing and The Jokers' transformations, plus the nod to "Red Rain" is inspiring, definatly one of the few highlights of the present Batman series.

Doppleganger 01-22-2006 11:20 PM

Oh you pose a tough one. I really really like the Tim Burton Batmans and Batman Begins. I'd say first Batman (because it was my first taste of the dark Batman), then Batman Begins, and then Batman Returns.

Raven 01-22-2006 11:31 PM

batman Begins no doubt.

I was so impressed with what they were able to with that movie, aside from Mask of the Phantasm being my favorite animated batman movie, Batman Begins is a great story, they really nailed every thing in this movie.

Plus it was really cool to meet David G, the writer of the film.

Mecha Cow 01-23-2006 11:25 AM

Batman Begins is one of my favorite movies, so yeah. Never was a big fan of the older ones, though Batman & Robin is hilarious.

Oh, the 60's movie is great too.

Raph's Girl 01-23-2006 11:41 AM

Mask of the Phantasm is definatly my fave Batman movie period with "Return of the Joker" and "The Batman vs Dracula" tied for 2nd!

I loved Batman Begins and Mystery of the Batwoman tho. Sub Zero was pretty good too.

As for "The Batman vs Dracula"(which is the film based on the current Batman series). The only weird thing about it is that when he thinks Joker has died Batman is actually sad. WTF?!

I've always said the animated Batman films are WAY better than the live action ones(of which I've seen all in theatre, except the 1960's one uh yea :P).

And as Im a true Batman fan I just pretend that the drivel that is "Batman and Robin" never happened. Batgirl was never EVER Alfred's fraken niece. :D

Sewer Bull 01-23-2006 02:20 PM

Burton's Batman... I adore it, just like the other Burton's movies.

... would you believe I saw it in cinema when it came out? Nothing spectacular, I guess - but I was only 6 at that time! I don't understand how they allowed my parents to bring me in... :| Maybe that's why I'm so f****d up now?

And what about that gritty animated show from the 90s? It was neat too.

DrSpengler 01-23-2006 02:25 PM

Just for the sake of copying Anarky...


Batman & Robin (1945 Serial): Well, it's pretty boring and VERY long. I would only recommend it to the real Batman-enthusiast. It's more interesting as a history lesson, as this was the first glimpse of Batman outside of the comics (or possibly a radio show, but I don't think he had one) the public ever got of the character and is a real good look at what the character was like when he was virtually brand new (only 6 years old as opposed to 60). The story is your typical WWII era anti-Japanazi propaganda and those who don't look at this as a product of the age it was made might get offended. The action is the most human and "realistic" you'll ever get in any Batman film, with Batman and Robin mostly boxing their enemies and, more often than not, totally getting the sh1t kicked out of them (especially Robin).

Batman & Robin (1949 Serial): I own this one but haven't watched it yet. I got kinda burned out after sitting through the entire 1945 serial. I'll get around to it.

Batman (Adam West): The movie is hilarious. My God. And, as pointed out, is a faithful adaptation of what Batman was like during the Silver Age: goofy. If you take it for what it is, and as a product of its time, you can't help but hav fun. Bat-Shark-Repellent...my god, that's awesome.

Batman (1989): I loved this one back in the day mostly because it was my introduction to "Dark Batman", where-as my only experience with the character had been in reruns of Superfriends cartoons of the 60's tv series. But time hasn't helped the movie very much and further education on the character has really made the flaws flare-up like a torch. For one thing, unless this was the 1940's, Batman would never EVER use a machine gun. Then he goes and willingly murders the Joker at the end. Those character flaws just stick out like a sore thumb to me. But despite those it IS a great film and the second-best live action Batman movie ever made. And I respect it for reminding the people of the world who don't read comics that Batman was a badass again.

Batman Returns: Uhh...No. Just way too many liberties with the established characters for my taste. Turning the Penguin into a drooling sewer mutant was awful, but Catwoman's Origin...falling out of a building, getting licked all over by cats and suddenly waking up with super human agility and acrobatic skills? And people thought the Halle Barry movie was stupid. The movie has its moments, and it isn't terrible...it's just not GOOD and really ruined all the villains.

Batman Forever: No matter what bad things I might have to say about Returns, they're nothing compared to this debacle. Schumacher seems to have gotten the Riddler confused with the Joker. Oh, and he seems to have also gotten Two-Face confused with the Joker. Yes, Schumacher got EVERYONE confused with the Joker. And I can't take Robin seriously; not when he looks like he's in his mid 20's. This movie was just a wasted oppertunity. It wasted the chance to make complex riddle crimes and it wasted the change to have a deep, moving villain in Two-Face. And for what? Just so Schumacher could undo DECADES of hardwork trying to return Batman to his dark roots solely because Schumacher wanted things to be campy and silly again. Imbecile.

Batman & Robin: *Batman Forever complaints x1000*

Mask of the Phantasm: Now this...THIS was everything a Batman movie should be. Complex characters, a somber look at Batman's origins, a psychotic Joker, incredible action (but not so much that it overshadows the characters) and a real plot with an ending that's NOT standard cartoon fare. The operatic rendition of Danny Elfman's theme is beautiful, the voice work is as top-notch as ever and the animation from TMS is absolutely gorgeous. It's the most complex Batman film ever written and produced and the most respectful adaptation of the character ever put to film. It's the perfect Batman movie. At least to me.

Subzero: Originally intended for a theatrical release, it got pulled due to the failure of Batman & Robin and put on hold for several years. It honestly should've been released at the same time as Batman & Robin so people could see what a GOOD Mr. Freeze story is supposed to be like. The animation tops Mask of the Phantasm's, I must admit. The story isn't as complex but is a moving continuation of Freeze's story from TAS. But I guess that's the major problem with the movie. If you aren't an avid watcher of TAS (or at least, if you hadn't seen the two previous Freeze episodes) you might be a bit lost as to what certain characters are doing in certain places. The happy endng was nice, though TNBA had to rob Freeze of it a little while later. Not enough Batgirl action, either.

Mystery of the Batwoman: This one was meant from the beginning for the straight to video market, so the animation quality is a bit inferior to the last two animated films. The story is a good mystery. The twist revelation of the Batwoman's identity isn't a major shocker but you'll have to be paying good attention to guess it. I didn't appreciate that they changed the Penguin's voice actor, I must admit. That and the jazz-inspired soundtrack really felt out of place (plus that awful pop-song at the Iceberg Lounge). I did like the fight with Bane at the end and the oppertunity to see all the TAS characters one last time. That being said, it wasn't a very good finale to TNBA. Could've used more Nightwing.

Return of the Joker (Uncut): Oh hell YES. This, I think, ranks somewhere beneath Mask of the Phantasm and Batman Begins. It rnaks third for me but is by no means a bad movie. It's vicious, disturbing, action-packed and just all-around insane. The perfect Joker movie. You get to see the Joker at his absolute worst. What he did to Robin is seriously not something you'd EVER see in a "kid's cartoon". And this is also the best Batman animation TMS ever produced. The quality is amazing. The only fault of the movie is that it relies on the audience to know the story behind Batman Beyond. And, unfortunately, there's a moment of lengthy, forced exposition where Terry explains his origin to Bruce for no really good reason. It's there for the people who haven't seen Batman Beyond and it really the only "ugh" moment in the movie. I also can't stress enough that you have to see the UNCUT versin of this film, as the editted version leaves a lot to be desired.

The Batman vs Dracula: Missed it when it was on TV. I'm tempted to pick up the DVD, as I hear the Joker is a major player in the movie. And I absolutely love Kevin Michael Richardson's version of the Joker. Black Joker is hilarious. I might get it sometime soon now that I'm thinking about it again.

Batman Begins: The best live action Batman movie ever made. It takes a while to get to "Batman" but the origin is all worth it. You KNOW what's going to happen, you KNOW how his parents are going to die...but the characters are so strong to murders hit you with emotion never-the-less. You honestly feel sorry for young Bruce. It's also the best version of Bruce Wayne in any of the live action movies. The Burton films treated him like a dark psychopath (who slept upside down for some reason). Yeah...like no one would figure his secret identity out. The Scarecrow, my personal favorite Bat-villain, was handled perfectly. Creepy and weird, but not losing sight of the fact that he IS, deep down inside, a wussy (that taser to the face with him running away screaming was very true to the comics). So good I saw it twice in the theaters because it really felt like the comics had come to life on the big screen.


So that's it for me.

cqb101 01-23-2006 05:41 PM

Batman returns
Batman Begins
Batman
Mask of the Phantasm
Return of the Joker
Batman Forever
Subzero

The rest don't deserve to be ranked. Or I haven't seen them.

Raph's Girl 01-23-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler
The Batman vs Dracula: Missed it when it was on TV. I'm tempted to pick up the DVD, as I hear the Joker is a major player in the movie. And I absolutely love Kevin Michael Richardson's version of the Joker. Black Joker is hilarious. I might get it sometime soon now that I'm thinking about it again.

Actually not really. Penguin is a major player in the movie playing the side kick to Dracula. Vamped up Joker IS frightening tho.

Basically Batman thinks Joker died and gets all sad. And when he comes back and gets vamped up Batman spends the rest of the movie trying to find a cure for vampirism using Joker as a guinea pig. He's also VERY happy to see Joker still kicking. :lol:

Penguin has a much bigger role as Dracula's sidekick (since it was his blood that braught Dracula back to life). He provides Dracula with whatever he needs to take over the world.

Despite that it's still a great film, very gory too!


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