I'm really sick of this...
 

As a Muppet fan, I'm pretty sick and tired of hearing the same piece of misinformation everyone apparently has. Well, I'm here to debunk it...

MISS PIGGY WAS NEVER ON SESAME STREET!!!

And Niether were Fozzie Bear, Gonzo, or Animal.

I've said it. My entire life, I kept having misinformed people that believe that over and over. I'm a member of Muppetcentral's web board, and we get that question once every so often. Then, I read this magazine that said, "In 1969, Sesame Street first debuted with Kermit, Cookie Monster, and Miss Piggy." Okay, Miss Piggy wasn't even created until 1975.

Now, I will say, a picture of Miss Piggy appeared in the back ground in a skit about the three pigs. Rowlf the Dog was on the pilot, with Kermit, and in a segment about the number 9. Then, of course, there were several random monsters that have been around since the Ed Sullivan appearances that were on both shows. But that's about it. Big Bird, Ernie, and Bert were guests on the Muppet show, each on one episode.

That's about it. I'm just tired of hearing that.

... WTF? Dude, just chill out. Haven't seen anyone here discussing Sesame Street or Muppets lately. And then you're coming out of the blue, all enraged about a matter that no one doesn't really seem to care about on this board.

I think he's just venting...I get rather annoyed by people saying that crap also. Sesame Street a childrens program and the muppet show are 2 very differnt types of programs and it can get quite annoying to fans.:-?

Actually, I read it in a magazine a little while ago. Plus, being on the muppet board, trust me, we get this question all the time. That and "what are the names of the guys in the balcony." ANd they fill up the board asking the question and not bothering to hear...errrr...read the answer.

Imagine if this board was filled up with newbies wondering what the name of the Brain in the fat guy suit is.

And the best place to complain about something that happens on a Muppet board is a forum dedicated to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Makes sense, I must say.

But I didn't even know that the Muppets and the Sesame Street had ties. Oh well, as long as there's a cookie monster...

Nope.. Piggy hasn't been on Seseme street per say BUT remember the Seseme Street Muppets WERE at Piggy and Kermit's wedding in "Muppets Take Manhatten"....

Also it makes sense to rant about the Muppets on a TMNT forum since the live action TMNT stuff is done by the Jim Henson company...and the live action muppets (except for Seseme Street) are now owned by Disney again (the TMNT had a stint at Disney World in the early 1990's when the Muppets were first captured by Disney). So the TMNT are technically muppets themselves (one of the last pictures Jim Henson took was with the TMNT).

and it's not like we're not talking about differnt things in the non-tmnt general tv discussions either...:P

My point is - writing about Muppets or Sesame Street in this section is OK in my book. But damn, Drtooth's post looks as if he's angrily fighting against widespread ignorance concerning his favourite show (just look at that hysterical "MISS PIGGY WAS NEVER ON SESAME STREET!!!" reddened statement), that is apparently present on the Technodrome as well. Like half of this forum solemnly claimed something utterly opposite before. And I really can't recall anyone ever messing Muppets with Sesame Street here... not to mention the recent times. So why should be the Dromers addressed with this rant - dunno.

Two questions.

1) I heard Miss Piggy was on Sesame Street. True?
b) What are the names of the guys on the balcony?

1: Hardy har har :P

2: Statler and Waldorf... duh....

My questions...as a pretty good size Muppet fan myself...which is Statler and which is Waldorf?

Not to be rude but a pretty good sized muppet fan would know which is which of two of the main cast of characters that are in every episode of the muppet and every muppet movie.
Anways The tall skinny one is Stalter and the short fat one is Waldorf.
Both named after hotels.:D

You know you can be a big fan of something without being a fanatic, right? I'm a gigantic fan of Star Wars, but I don't know all the names of the background characters in the movies, their life story, and what relevance they have (if any) to the universe as a whole.

Does that make me any less of a fan?

In this day and age, yes.

Unless you know the name of Han solo's third cousin removed on his sister's side....
YOU KNOW NOTHING!!!!!

No But Statler And Waldorf are hardly background characters they usually have more lines than any other character.
And they even had there own internet show not to long ago.
http://movies.go.com/moviesdynamic/muppets/index
So I'd hardly call them obscure background characters.:D

I'll add one last thing. I also don't like how everyone confuses Jay Ward's Bullwinkle cartoons with Total Television (Underdog, Commander McBragg, Tennisee Tuxedo) cartoons.

I can understand why, though. They both were animated by the same Mexican animation studio (Gamma). They also share a distributing producer, Peter Piech (where the name Capt. Peter Peachfuzz comes from).

And now to make matters even more confusing, now both companies are owned (at least in part on Jay Ward properties) by Classic Media now.

Yes, that's always been something that bothered me. As in really bothered me.

And while we're at being upset about things: There's this cartoon over here, a real classic. It's called "Wickie und die starken Männer" (=Wickie and the strong men) and it's about this girl (who's not a boy at all) and her Viking dad and his crew. Wickie is a girl, dammit. Not a boy. A girl. You know, female and stuff. Damnit...

No way! Wikipedia says Wikki is a boy, and Wikipedia tells no lies. You had me confused for a second.

Wickie so is a girl. Damn, she wears a bleetin' skirt, has long hair and has the voice of a girl. Short: Wickie's a girl. Wikipedia is not objective when it comes to "Wikings". :D

Wikki...Wikipedia...Coincidence? I think not.