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LogicDonny 12-19-2006 03:56 PM

question about batman animated series dvd
 
I am thinking of getting batman animated series on dvd and I need your ideas.. SHould I go ahead and get all 4 volumes of batman animated series and so on?

Jon 12-19-2006 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny (Post 448749)
I am thinking of getting batman animated series on dvd and I need your ideas.. SHould I go ahead and get all 4 volumes of batman animated series and so on?


Of course, since the Box-Sets have the whole series (Vol. 1-3 being the Fox run, and Vol. 4 the Kids WB run).

LogicDonny 12-19-2006 04:07 PM

then what about

superman animated series
batman beyond
justice league
justice league unlimted.. never mind.

i seen jl and jlu. I'm defiently getting those. i am not getting teen titans. Lol!

DrSpengler 12-19-2006 04:14 PM

I enjoy them all, personally. Proper chronological order would go about...

Batman TAS vol. 1-3

Superman TAS vol. 1-2

Batman TAS vol. 4 (the New Batman Adventures)

Superman TAS vol. 3

Batman Beyond vol. 1-2

Justice League vol. 1-2

Justice League Unlimited vol. 1


Teen Titans season 1-2 are also out, and they are in debatable continuity with the other Timm/Dini shows.

Personally, I've enjoyed every set.

Jon 12-19-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny (Post 448758)
then what about

superman animated series
batman beyond
justice league
justice league unlimted.. never mind.

i seen jl and jlu. I'm defiently getting those. i am not getting teen titans. Lol!


So far: all of Superman TAS is out (3 Sets), Batman Beyond has 2 of it's 3 Seasons out (the 3rd due in March), Justice League's 2 Seasons are out, and Justice League Unlimited has 'Season 1' (Seasons 1 & 2 of broadcast) out, and 'Season 2' (3) coming (also in March).

But Teen Titans is also pretty good (with 2 of it's Seasons out so far, and the next to come in April). Then, also have The Batman (same as Titans -- 2 out and next one in April).

LogicDonny 12-19-2006 05:06 PM

my question is about teen titans and the batman.. are they even worth watching? the batman looks so differnet than the animated series of batman.. what is the differnece.. also why is teen titan anime-looking which is nothign wrong.. i just never seen teen titans before and that is why i said i didn't like it.

DrSpengler 12-19-2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny (Post 448772)
my question is about teen titans and the batman.. are they even worth watching? the batman looks so differnet than the animated series of batman.. what is the differnece.. also why is teen titan anime-looking which is nothign wrong.. i just never seen teen titans before and that is why i said i didn't like it.

The anime-look of Teen Titans was done solely to pander to the otaku crowd and the current youth of America, who will not watch anything unless it is Japanese.

Despite the anime-look, Teen Titans is actually a really good show, with lots of over-reaching story arcs, character depth, great voice acting and some really good animation.

It loosely fits in with the Timm/Dini universe, mostly through a few Easter Eggs here and there (a lot of people reject the notion, though).


The Batman is a brand new continuity, with no connection to the Timm/Dini universe. It kind of sucks, honestly, though it has its moments from time to time.

I'd recommend The Batman vs. Dracula movie over the TV series, honestly. Much darker with better animation and a story that could have easily been worked into the Timm/Dini universe.

Here's my review.

Jester 12-19-2006 05:33 PM

I so far own all the Timm/Dini stuff, sans Teen Titans. I just finished watching vols 1-3 of Batman: TAS, and loved it. I'm probably gonna watch the rest of the series like Doc Spengler suggested. I'd recommend Batman: TAS, Superman, JL(U) and Batman: Beyond. Haven't watched TT, but I assume (since it's psudo-anime) it'd not be my cup-o-tea.

Dr. Doom 12-19-2006 05:34 PM

Teen Titans is very much an aquired taste. Many people are turned off by the anime influence that is ever so prevelant(sp) in it, but it added to the charm of the show in my opinion, and it's probably one of my favorite TV shows currently. I think everyone should give it a try before judging at the very least. Just make sure you're watching a good episode.. there were a few stinkers here and there.

DrSpengler 12-19-2006 05:43 PM

Teen Titans is...strange. It takes everything I love about America cartoon storytelling but incorporates just about evrything I hate from Japanese animation. Yet I still liked hte show.

The Japanese anime flare can be very helpful, especially during the action sequences. However, the can also make the viewing experience very painful, such as montages to gut-wrenchingly awful Pufi Ami Yumi music, or when everyone keeps morphing into midgets with giant heads running around in circles screaming at each other.

The WRITING for the show, though, as well as the stupendous voice acting, completely out-weighs the god awful anime cliches.

I actually prefer the cartoon's "Slade" over the comic's "Deathstroke", thanks in large part to a magnificent performance from Ron Perlman.

The pacing has a certain formula to it. There are story arcs featuring the main villain sprinkled with comedy relief episodes featuring some of the goofier villains of the comics, just to lighten things up.

The serious episodes can be very, very dark and surprisingly violent. "Haunted" is a great example of some of Teen Titans' most exceptional story-telling (though moments of Beast Boy going all anime cliche almost ruins it).

The comedy relief episodes vary in quality. I like the Mad Mod episodes, save for the PAU montage from the first one. The Mumbo Jumbo episode, however, is my all time favorite comedy relief, one, though. Probably the best performance of Tom Kenny's career, too.


It has its ups and downs, with the downs being really down, but the ups being magnificent. As mentioned, it is definately an acquired taste. It took me a while to tolerate the hackneyed anime s***. But once I got past that I could appreciate the show for the quality of the story telling.

Duke 12-19-2006 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 448789)
The Japanese anime flare can be very helpful, especially during the action sequences. However, the can also make the viewing experience very painful, such as montages to gut-wrenchingly awful Pufi Ami Yumi music, or when everyone keeps morphing into midgets with giant heads running around in circles screaming at each other.

I only gave the show a try twice and the crappy giant head stuff turned me completely off both times.

Dr. Doom 12-19-2006 06:21 PM

My point exactly. I love mosta that stuff.

LogicDonny 12-19-2006 06:58 PM

Is the batman vs dracula movie part of the batman show or a standalone movie? If so, I will go buy it tomorrow.

Also, the batman dvd doesn't seem too expensive so is it worth buying?

DrSpengler 12-19-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny (Post 448810)
Is the batman vs dracula movie part of the batman show or a standalone movie? If so, I will go buy it tomorrow.

Also, the batman dvd doesn't seem too expensive so is it worth buying?

It's a part of the series in that it takes place in that continuity, but the story is entirely standalone and doesn't even require one to have seen an episode of the TV series, just to know who characters like Batman and the Joker are.

LogicDonny 12-19-2006 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 448814)
It's a part of the series in that it takes place in that continuity, but the story is entirely standalone and doesn't even require one to have seen an episode of the TV series, just to know who characters like Batman and the Joker are.

I have seen episodes of the batman. It can't touch teh greatness of the animated series but it's still fun to watch. I seen the episodes where the guy turns into clayface.

Thanks man.

ZariusTwo 12-20-2006 12:15 AM

You saw one of the series' best episodes, "The Clayface of Tragedy" puts every other episode in the first season to tremendous shame. Greg Wiesman, who was the creator of Gargoyles, wrote the episode. He continued to work on the second season, which was awesome. It also became evident Wiesman was story editing the series when he left to helm W.I.T.C.H, the third season was considerably weaker, and the inclusion of Batgirl only made the show suffer more.

Then Duane Capizzi left to work on the upcoming JL movies, and the rise in quality became VERY noticable. Old school Batman: TAS writers began working on it, guest VAs that include Brand Rough and Kevin Conroy etc..

As for Titans, it's first two seasons are perfect, the third however is saved by only three episodes, two of them focusing on Beast Boy and Raven's relationship, the fourth is the most violent, with an episode that I'm surprised got past obviously very sleepy censors ("Birthmark"), the fifth is the one that needs to be avoided.

Dr. Doom 12-20-2006 01:46 AM

Ooooh, Birthmark. -=Drools as he watches=- @_@

DrSpengler 12-20-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 448866)
As for Titans, it's first two seasons are perfect, the third however is saved by only three episodes, two of them focusing on Beast Boy and Raven's relationship, the fourth is the most violent, with an episode that I'm surprised got past obviously very sleepy censors ("Birthmark"), the fifth is the one that needs to be avoided.

I have a soft spot for the 5th season mostly because it was there just for fangasms.

The whole Brotherhood of Evil thing and the slew of new Titans was sort've their way of trying to "copy" JLU and it's Legion of Doom season.

Obviously, they didn't do as good a job, but I just got a kick out of seeing all those characters get a spotlight who wouldn't have if the series had ended at 4.

They dropped the ball with Jericho, though. I mean, Kole got more screentime than he did. Kole.

Seeing Beast Boy yell "Titants, Together!" got me all fanboy tingly, as did seeing Kid Flash and getting some character progression out of Jynx.

The 5th was one big "zomg" nerdfest without the character depth of the previous seasons, save for some origin work on Beast Boy and a little maturing on his part (which was completely tossed aside in that crapfest, Trouble in Tokyo).

Dr. Doom 12-20-2006 01:16 PM

Season Five had a lot of highs as well as lows, I'll agree. Highs such as the climactic "Calling All Titans" and "Titans Together", as well as the introduction of many characters such as Kid Flash (which ended up being one of my favorite episodes of the series), and lows such as the confusing final episode, the disappointing origin episode, and several loose ends left untied, namely the identity of Red X.

DrSpengler 12-20-2006 01:33 PM

Yeah, what bugged me most was the loose ends. They shouldn't have even bothered with that epilogue episode. Just created a slew of new questions that will never be resolved.

Shouldn't have even bothered with Trouble in Tokyo, either. What an exercise in pointlessness, that was.

I can't remember what the comedy relief episodes in season 5, were. Was the Mother May-Eye episode in season 5? Because that one was genuinely awful.


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