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jignat 03-15-2007 12:01 PM

Why does Donatello get the short end of the stick?
 
Hi,

Im a long time TMNT fan coming out of retirement b/c of the new movie. Anyway, I wanted to ask if if anybody feel that Donatello is unfairly shoved to the side most of the time in tmnt stories.

Except for when they need tech stuff, I feel that he is the least liked turtle of the group and doesnt get the spotlight that much.

Mirage vol 1: (only mirage i have read is 1-4, 10/11, crtny, city at war) seems like the responsible one, hates guns, etc. is repsonsible for shreds 1st death.
Ok

80 toon: is there for Tech stuff primarily. doesnt like humans. Not much memorable character stuff

90 live action: is mikey's partner in jokes , Could tell he was smart.
91: smarter/tech wise. One of the best moments in the film: Donatello talks to splinter about the tcri tube breaking , wondering about their purpose in life. It was short , but cool (its been a while 10 yrs since i saw tmnt2 )
93: totally forgot 3 lol
NM: same as above

TMNT 1 game nes: His weapon does the most damage woot!
havent seen 03 show.

Buslady 03-15-2007 12:32 PM

well i can tell you in the 2K3 series, Don seems to get the girls. -.-
He has or had a crush on April, and liked a couple other babes.
Don's gotta big piece in the newer series. They even did a Don/Raph team up eppie which was very odd. and it was great!

Aignatius 03-15-2007 12:51 PM

Nah, I don't think Don has it so bad.
Don just doesn't seem to have the kind of personality that grabs the most attention. He's the quiet one who likes to go off and work or read or draw in his sketchbook by himself often. :)

Rooish 03-15-2007 01:00 PM

I do feel that Don gets shoved aside often; in the 2003 toon, whole episodes can go by where he says only a few lines. But he does have a lot of episodes where he is very cool. Also he pretty much ownes Mirage Volume 4 comics (although they are not being published right now).

Revan 03-15-2007 01:42 PM

Although I won't argue Don's lack of screen time, he is paramount in their endevors.

2k3 -- Built the Battle Shell - Tunneler - Turtle Bike - Slider - Shell Sub...

OT -- Built the Van - Blimp - and hundreds of other things.

The episodes would have been much more dull without don and his inventions.

CyberCubed 03-15-2007 03:35 PM

Donatello had quite a number of spotlight episodes to himself in the original cartoon, not to mention he played a pivotal role in many others.

The writers kind of had Don act like the second leader in the old show, in a lot of the episodes he's giving the orders.

Aignatius 03-15-2007 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino (Post 477131)
Although I won't argue Don's lack of screen time, he is paramount in their endevors.

2k3 -- Built the Battle Shell - Tunneler - Turtle Bike - Slider - Shell Sub...

OT -- Built the Van - Blimp - and hundreds of other things.

The episodes would have been much more dull without don and his inventions.

See? He's too busy to be in the spotlight all the time. :D

themaxonline 03-15-2007 05:48 PM

I often think that it's Don that holds the group together. Sometimes when I'm watching episodes of the old cartoon, I wonder what they'd do without him as it's usually him that explains to the others what the situation is or whatever. He may not be in the forefront but I would probably argue that when it comes to the big fight, he might be the most important turtle.

Sage Ninja 03-16-2007 12:28 AM

exactly. Donatello is the turtle that the group can not do with out. And that is in pretty much any given medium of the turtles. In the New toon the team was basically crippled when Donatello was turned into a giant monster of him self when the mutant epidemic arc of season four was in place. And Like others have mentioned, Donatello was basically top turtle in the classic series and was the second leader after Leonardo. And unlike in other mediums, Donatello was quite an effective fighter in the old toon and was pretty much the second skilled after Leonardo.

The only mediums that sort of gives Dontello the short end of the straw is the movie universe, where they tend to focus on Raphael and Leoanrdo and their agnyst the most.

shellofinsanity 03-18-2007 11:34 PM

well he was my 2nd fav after leo, and he may not be in the limelight, but i cant imagine not having him around, i mean who is gonna build all the gadgets the other 3 need, or fix what the other 3 break

SpiderHulkThing 03-19-2007 01:42 PM

i think that certain episodes may have him downplayed a little, but the same goes for almost all the turtles. Mikey seems to get the most attention in the old series as well as the new because of the comic relief. I've seen episodes where i felt that raph wasn't very invovled and the same with leo as well. I think it just depends on the episode.

Brock 03-19-2007 02:24 PM

I think Don gets respect. He's all over the new Mirage series and the first trade paperback collection of the new Tales of the TMNT are ALL Donatello issues -- he intros the stories and is featured in each comic.

gobo 03-19-2007 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jignat
Why does Donatello get the short end of the stick?

Nice guys finish last. :ohwell:

LogicDonny 03-19-2007 05:40 PM

He has a stick!
Oh no!! No it can't be! The stick.. speaking of the stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5kFrCINpl8

there's no way don can beat this guy! lol.

ikology 03-19-2007 07:33 PM

it just makes sense because of the personality he has
People in the real world who are the Donnie type get pushed to the back a lot too by attention grabbing Mikey-types, and troublemaking Raph types

and as for Leo, he probably just go the time and attention he did because he was the leader

I don't think any of us could imagine the Turtles without Donnie though
And I don't think the Turtles would last long without him either

It's true though
check it out,
<----- even in the avatar I found for the forums Donnie gets shoved under a sewer cap lol ;)

Rooish 03-19-2007 10:07 PM

Well, at least he looks happy about it. :)

gobo 03-19-2007 10:23 PM

He's crying on the inside. :lol:

Ninjinister 03-19-2007 11:08 PM

I guess you are forgetting who it was that killed the original Oroku Saki AND Baxter Stockman....

Rooish 03-20-2007 08:43 AM

Heh, yeah. Mikey was the one who was completely useless for that first issue.

shellofinsanity 03-20-2007 09:40 AM

mikey is useless the most of all the turtles lol


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