Which Turtle got the most attention and the shaft in each universe?
 

Because not all universes focus the same on each Turtle.

Mirage

Most attention- Donatello, because he is on so many adventures on the Tales. But this is a close call.
Shaft- Michelangelo. Granted, he is the only one to have a serious relationship...but who knows if this is a bizarre way of shafting him rather than giving him true adventures focused on him.

Old Toon

Most attention- Donatello and Michelangelo. Mikey is the one who did the cartoon special. Donnie very often saves the day.
Shaft- Leonardo. Besides being the leader, he is not shown doing all that much. The Leonardo centric episodes tended to air late during the seasons.

Archie

From what little I know about it, Raphael seems to have gotten the most attention due to Ninjara.

Movies

Most attention- certainly Raphael, but Leonardo did also to a certain extent.
Shaft- Michelangelo for sure, and Donatello too but at least the second movie focused quite a bit on him.

New Toon

Most attention- perhaps Leonardo, or at least it is the universe that gives him the most attention
Shaft- Michelangelo often just plays the fool

Overall- not sure

Well, no universe is meant to focus solely on any turtle. Every turtle gets their moments in ever universe, maybe not the exact same amount, but pretty close if you do the math.

After all, to sort of quote Raphael in the new movie, "The world doesn't revolve around just one of them."

the first movie and new movie totally belong to raph.

2k3 toon, leo. raph got shafted totally.

archies, i think it was even but i havent read much of those

mirage, dunno...

Donatello definitely gets the least amount of screentime in the 2k3 series. Can you guys even count how many Don-centric episodes there are? And in the regular episodes, we're always focused on Leo, Raph or Mike more than Don.

Donatello got various episodes centered on him in the NT:

- The People's choice
- all the Y'lantean ones
- Adventures in Turtle-sitting plus the two part Bad Genes arc
- Leatherhead ones

PLUS he was the leader when Leonardo could not lead in the early part of Season 4 due to his trauma.

I do agree that the 2k3 toon does not focus as much on Donatello as the OT and Mirage did. But he does not completely get neglected either.

Someone posted that Fast Forward focused a lot on Mikey. I have not watched FF, but I would have imagined it would focus more on Donnie due to all the technology and futuristic issues.

Donatello gets the shaft in FF because of Cody Jones, April's and Casey's greatgrandson. Since he's also a genius that builds machines he kinda takes over Donny's role, even though Donny helps him.

Most of FF's character-centric episodes are about Mikey, Raph get's one and neither Leo nor Don have an episode about themselves. Of course I haven't seen the last six episodes, so I don't know if that changes near the end.

See, opinions are already differing.
True in the OT, Michaelangelo may have been a key represenatative and Donatello tech offered quite a bit, but Leonardo and Raphael got their moments too; like a lot of places, Raphael has the most varied personality while the others tend to be more stereotypical, and Leonardo had his catchy individual moments and lines as well.
The NT has differing opinions too, I'll put it this way: Leonardo has a lot of his leader moments; Donatello tech is still a huge contribution in the show, not to mention his for-real (but temporary) slaying of Shredder in SAINW; Michaelangelo has a great deal of individual achievement (Battle Nexus, Reality Check, and Turtle Titan); and Raphael again with the most varied personality and the Mr. Intuition as well.
Movies: Raphael does get a lot of individual glory/moments, true. Leonardo gets his share, his leadership moments and all. Donatello has to provide the answers for all the technical stuff for everyone else, and still manages to have a lot more than just a tech-geek personality. Michaelangelo has tons of one-liners and shows off his skill and gets emotional moments too.
Can't speak for the comics, don't read 'em.

Just don't expect to come to a solid conclusion in regards to this in any universe, because it won't match up with everyone else's. As I told Tigerfog, in obscure zodiac: there's no such thing as TMNT without ALL the turtles.

Don't forget that Don offed two of the most prominent villains in TMNT history, in the Mirage comics (Shredder and Baxter).

My opinion:

Old Mirage:
Most attention - Raph I'd say, but not by much.
Shaft - Holy crap, Mike hands down. I have no clue how they managed to infer such a great character for the OT based on Mike's pathetic role in the comics.

OT
Most attention - Mike. Don and Raph said a lot, but I think the writers made Mike the most sympathetic.
Least attention - Leo, except his role as leader made up for that.

Movies (not including #3, which I don't remember):
Most attention - Raph
Shaft - Mike and Don in #1, Leo in #2, Mike and Don in #3

Archie
Most attention - Seems like Raph, with Don second.
Shaft - Seems like Leo was barely there.

Image
Huh. This is the only series that had a pretty damn good balance. Except for being pretty sexist, that series was awesome. Don was kinda too violent, though, compared to usually.

Mirage Volume 4
Most attention - Mike/Don
Shaft - I think Raph. Spitfire disagrees. ;)

2k3
Most attention - Leo
Shaft - Um, all three of the others. Don screen-time-wise, Mike personality-wise (he does get development, but it doesn't really make up for his personality:roll: ), and Raph both screen-time-wise and personality wise. So Raph is treated the worst.

FF
Most attention - Mikey, maybe Raph
Shaft - Leo. Or Splinter. :lol:

Most attention obtained by:

Michelangelo- Fast Forward, 1987 Toon. Curiously, these are the two places where Mikey is the most difficult Turtle and not Raph.

Raphael- The Movies, Tales Volume 2.

Donatello- Mirage, 1987 Toon. He may not have gotten any episodes focused on him during Fast Forward, but he still participates and helps A LOT. I do not think he got the shaft in Fast Forward.

Leonardo- 2k3 Toon. Personally, I want to see MUCH more of Leo.

1987
 

In the 1987 cartoon, many episodes had solo-adventures with one of the TMNT, giving them more individual attention. However, I never liked most of them (it was episodes like "Beyond the Donatello Nebula" or "Lenoardo VS Tempestra"), expect for "Michaelangelo meets Mondo Gecko", a good episode. Shredder wasn't in them. "Take Me to Your Leader" was also good, if it o****s. Shredder was in it and it was'nt a Leonardo adventure, it was a Donatello, Michaelangelo and Raphael adventure without Leonardo, expect for then he destroyed the robot.

Live action movie one:

most focus: Raphael and to a lesser extent Leo

Least focus: Donatello and Mike


Live action two:

most focus: Donatello and Raphael with Mike and Leo having a few good lines

least: Mikey by default and Leonardo

Third Live ction:

most focus: Michaelangelo and Raphael

Least focus: Leonardo and Dontello

1987 cartoon:

most focus: Donatello all the way and also Michaelangelo

least focus: Leo and mostly Raphael

2k3 series:

most focus: Leo and Raph

Least focus: Mikey (development and personality wise) and Donteelo (screen time wise)

CGI movie:

most focus: Leonardo and Raphael are tyed

least focus: Donatelo and Michaelangelo

Now that I have read about 25 Archie issues, I think I am ready to make a new list:

Mirage

Most- Donatello
Least- Michelangelo

1987 Toon

Most- Michelangelo, then Donatello. Close call, but I think Mikey wins.
Least- Leonardo

Archie

Most- Raphael in the main run, but Donatello and Michelangelo got side stories.
Least- sadly, that leaves Leonardo as getting the shaft.

Movies

Most- overall, they are very Raphael-centric. The first one focused more on Raphael, the second one on Donatello, the third one on Michelangelo, and the fourth one on Leonardo in addition to Raphael. But for the most part, Raphael.
Least- seems like Michelangelo or Donatello would be it.

2k3 Toon

Most- Leonardo
Least- on one hand, Donatello does not have any episodes/DVDs with his name on them. But he is quite important in Fast Forward. I did notice that Donatello is the only Turtle to never refer to Splinter as his father- but that could be due to his personality. And he does take the lead when Leonardo is not available. It's hard to tell given that 2k3 is not closed nor has run as long as some of the other universes.

2k3: Leo got the attention while Raph got shafted, he has the least amount of solo stories out of the four.

Movies: :D That should be obvious, Raph got the most attn. MIke & Don got shafted :cry:

OT: *shrugs* dunno

TNM: Attn: Venus with Leo on her hinder. :roll: Least: Dunno cos i haven't seen anough eppies to really see.

Mirage: Seemingly equal thru the comics. BUt i feel Raph's been shafted again w/ this "solo" adventure thats out right now. It's not a solo, it's SHadow and company with Raph. :roll:

New Toon is fine,lots of mikey focused epids!and the theme song:"the wise guy Michelangelo",and how many times in emergency situations he knos the wise and helps others...eg,said the crystle's all 'bout "up and down",and beated raph in the transportal contest by endless buzzing him...*M:hey!*he knew raph hates bugs,he nailed him!poor raph,well everyone has his weakpoint...XDDD

So trueee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raph got the shaft with this monster crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is a damn shame about Mike. :evil:

yeah many times it seemed like Dontello was the leader, not Leonardo

never read it



in what way was it sexiest? :o

Quote:

Mirage Volume 4

woo hoo. finnaly Don and Mike getting some action!! I thought Leo's story is interesting

I agree, except for the bit about Raphael


Mike maybe getting all the attention but it's not the right type of attention I think. Same for Raphael.

Now I wonder which universe paid the most attention to Splinter, and which one did he get shafted in the most.

He gets plenty of attention and action in the NT. I wouldn't say he was shafted in the OT, but as it went on his presence was felt much less.

Changing Splinter's origin alone could be considered giving him the shaft.

However, I am going strictly by amount of attention paid. I wonder if the OT would be the most shafted one for this one indeed.

And Splinter does get quite a bit of attention in the NT indeed. Hamato Yoshi's background gets explained, Splinter goes to the Battle Nexus and gets awards, Splinter has more friends than in any other universe, and so on.

I wonder if this is linked to the fact that the NT is where Leo gets the most attention, since Leo is the closest one to Splinter out of the 4 Turtles.