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Peanut 11-30-2007 10:53 AM

Jeff Gerstmann fired over review...
 
F*cking SAD! That's all I can say about the Gamespot higher-ups at this moment. Way to completely ruin all the credibility Gamespot had as one of the best places for game related content.

Destructoid
Kotaku

Even PA has already put up their comic about it...
http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20071129.jpg

You know, I don't care whether you love or hate Jeff, the guy has been around for 10 years. He's reviewed almost every huge game to be released in that time span, and along with the likes of Greg Kasavin and Ryan MacDonald, made Gamespot the juggernaut it is today, and also one of the funnest and most reliable gaming sites on the internet. This is completely and utterly despicable. I feel sick.

Mecha Cow 11-30-2007 11:03 AM

So, this is actually real? I saw the comic but I thought it was a joke.

I don't like particularly like Gerstmann, but to fire him for doing his job is nothing short of retarded. What the f*ck, Gamespot.

Peanut 11-30-2007 11:09 AM

Yes, it's 100% confirmed at this point. There's pretty much calamity over in the Gamespot community. Some old editors have started some trouble, including one starting up a campaign to get as many people as possible to cancel their GS paid accounts. They're already nearing $4,000 worth of cancelled subscriptions.

On top of all this, apparently Tim Tracy, who was a main man behind almost every single Gamespot Live feature, has quit because of this.

Cure 11-30-2007 11:13 AM

Damn. That's f*cked up.

Kendamu 11-30-2007 11:15 AM

Fsck Gamespot. I'm not going there anymore.

JameO 11-30-2007 11:28 AM

Personally, when playing Kane and Lynch with a friend, the game's controls are rather terrible I feel, just doesn't work at all I feel, didn't really enjoy playing it, it wasn't that bad and sure I only played for like an hour or two, but still, Jeff Gerstmann is the man, I loved his humour and his need to get as many live achievements as he could. Good man, this blows, like Peanut said, Kasavin was the king as well, two great editors gone down the tube.

ThirdMarioBro 11-30-2007 02:24 PM

I've never been Jeff Gerstmann's biggest fan, but this is just downright crooked. Gamespot looses all respect from me both as a journalist and a reader if this is legit. This is a writer and reader's worst nightmare--to know that an editor gets the guillotine if their reviews and opinions don't fall in line with the ideals of the sponsors, especially when you're in a position of power such as Gamespot. This completely blows Gamespot's credibility straight to hell if its true. How can a reader expect their content to be objective and honest if they fire editors who don't kiss the collective asses of the sponsor of the week?

This is just more evidence that in the minds of publishers, game journalism is nothing but an extension of their PR firms. Problem is, behavior such as Gamespot's essentially makes us even more so their volunteer lackeys. If someone won't cave, publishers will just take their exclusive content to someone who will.

Credibility is hard earned, and easily lost. I hope this scandal gets a lot of attention from the core gamer-base, because the site deserves to burn. Seriously, you hear about this kind of stuff going on time and time again, but it never turns out to be real. This is big, and ugly.

Brodie 11-30-2007 11:32 PM

Yeah, this is nuts. I saw this earlier, and actually saw that video 2 weeks ago. Its down now, but on the tube of you.

I wonder how big this whole repercussion circus will go.

Barkworm 12-01-2007 07:11 AM

First I didn't believe that he got fired because of the review but then I noticed that Gamespot took down his video review for the game. Yeah.

As most of us I never really liked Gerstmann but this is pathetic. F*ck Gamespot.

Dr. Doom 12-01-2007 10:51 AM

Gamespot's been my site for alla this stuff since high school, so I'm obviously a bit confused about where to go from here. What they did is sort of unforgivable for a journalistic institution of any sort, but at the same time it's gonna be difficult for me to just up and start using something else that I'm unfamiliar with.

Aelia 12-01-2007 11:35 AM

Geez. What really gets me upset is that Eidos actually 'took issue' with the review. If they couldn't take a bad review, then they shouldn't have made a bad game. They were acting like immature jerks, and whats worse is that Gamespot actually gave into them. Total bullsh*t, says I.

Mecha Cow 12-01-2007 11:53 AM

Eidos took issue with it because their ads were plastered all over the website.

Aelia 12-01-2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow (Post 573999)
Eidos took issue with it because their ads were plastered all over the website.

That still doesn't change the fact that they took the wrong course of action.

Peanut 12-01-2007 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 573986)
Gamespot's been my site for alla this stuff since high school, so I'm obviously a bit confused about where to go from here. What they did is sort of unforgivable for a journalistic institution of any sort, but at the same time it's gonna be difficult for me to just up and start using something else that I'm unfamiliar with.

Same here. I was reading Gamespot back when it was Videogames.com, when Jeff and Ryan would make videos about which controller flew the furtherest. I don't know if I can just not visit Gamespot over this. I mean, over the past year and half 1up has made gigantic strides with their podcasts and interesting features, but their reviews and previews still pale in comparison, and come off as almost amateurish at times. I don't really know what to do, because IGN isn't, and never was, an option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow
Eidos took issue with it because their ads were plastered all over the website.

That makes little difference. They had Hour of Victory ads all over their site, even had developers visiting On The Spot to show it off, and it was nailed to the wall with an even worse score, yet they didn't get into a fit about it. If you make a sh*t game, expect to pay the consequences.

Mecha Cow 12-01-2007 12:38 PM

I don't agree with it, I'm just clearing up why they had a problem with it.

Peanut 12-01-2007 12:45 PM

Destructoid f*cking rules!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...estructoid.jpg

Aelia 12-01-2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut (Post 574035)

:lol:

Thanks for posting that little bit. I needed the laugh.

ThirdMarioBro 12-01-2007 02:38 PM

Banner of the year. Easy win.

Mecha Cow 12-01-2007 06:04 PM

Apparently the 1up guys are protesting against this.

Peanut 12-01-2007 06:41 PM

I wouldn't call it protesting, but showing their support for Jeff, which just shows yet again how f*cking solid all the Ziff guys are. 1up, Gamevideos, EGM & GFW. I will eat something not fit for consumption if Jeff doesn't end up over on 1up. It really is their chance to elevate themselves to new levels.

Anyways, I don't know how many people here actually watch/listen to the various Gamespot productions, but did anyone happen to see Tournament TV last night? The look on Kevin Van Ord's face almost killed me. That guy is usually just so full of smiles, but he looked like he was miserable. And the continued blog entries from (current and former) Gamespot employees are really telling about how everyone feels about this.

Brian Ekberg even made a blog post saying pretty much that he wanted to leave.


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