Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 581088)

I have the old colorized TPB with the Cerebus issue. These days the creator of Cerebus would probably refuse to let that issue be a part of future trades, wouldn't he? :(

I heard he's weird about allowing people to use the character like that these days.

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 581097)

Is he weird about that kind of stuff, but he is on the record for giving Peter/Mirage permission to reprint the issue. However, Peter is ignoring that and is replacing the entire #8 with a brand new story that he didn't even bother to write OR draw. :dead:

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 581118)

Doesn't that issue introduce Renet too though IIRC? She shows up again in the turtles comics, heck they mention their adventure in an issue of tales which was recently re-released via trade paperback.

IMO if Dave Sim gives you permission to reprint the thing, you better take advantage of it.

Originally Posted by Rooish (Post 581463)

Cerebus is a great comic ... but I dislike Dave Sim so strongly--despite his brilliance--that I think I'll wait to buy the Cerebus comics until after he's died. ;)

Originally Posted by Roseangelo (Post 581146)

Don't ask me to make sense of it. I can't.

But here's some (unfortunately bad) photos of what we can expect to replace he #8 we all know and love:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...o/newtmnt8.jpg

That was published in a Spanish TPB earlier this year.

Originally Posted by Malpractice

Hi Dave

I am a big fan of Cerebus, and really looking foward to Glamourpuss. While most of my questions about Glamourpuss have already been answered by other posters, i figured i would ask this one. Why do you feel that at this time in the comics industry it was the right time to launch Glamourpuss ? I personally think that the industry needs a book as different as Glamourpuss in the marketplace, and I applaud you Dave for taking the risk and putting it out there, but I just don't know how many other people feel the same way as me.

Also for a non-Glamourpuss related question, I am a huge fan of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and it was actually that book that turned me onto Cerebus. I wanted to know how you felt about the upcoming collected editions of the original issues coming out next year. The issue that you worked on #8 is being re-written and re-drawn by Peter Laird and Jim Lawson with Cerebus being omitted from the story. I was curious if this was because you objected to having the issue reprinted in the collection or just because Peter Laird didn't want Cerebus in there anymore. I remember reading that you gave approval to it being in the collection, so i am assuming it's the latter.

thanks for your time, and good luck with Glamourpuss

Originally Posted by Dave Sim

Well, it was a tough call. I was tempted to go ahead with Secret Project Three and try to find something more commercial than glamourpuss as a lead-in to glamourpuss and have glamourpuss as the lead-in to Secret Project One but, finally, I just decided to go ahead with glamourpuss. We'll find out if I made theright call over the next six months or so. I'm told the buzz is pretty good right now, so I'm just trying to stay positive and work hard. After that it's all up to the retailers.

No, as far as I know Pete just doesn't want Cerebus in there and since he has absolute control over the Turtles, it's his call to make. I don't think it's a huge deal. As Kevin pointed out between the original comic book and the First Comics reprint there's probably over 100,000 copies in circulation. I've always held that any artist or writer can reprint anything that they worked on so obviously I'd like to have the original duo-shaded Kevin Eastman story with my Cerebus pictures in the CEREBUS MISCELLANY b&w collection, but I also know better than to go head to head with Pete's a) millions and B) lawyers. Same as with SPAWN 10. I'd like to reprint it in black and white in CEREBUS MISCELLANY and (possibly) redraw the Cerebuses. But unless Todd wants that happen that isn't going to happen no matter what foundatons I choose to conduct my own business on.

Thanks for posting.

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 581478)

I've got quite a few comic creators that I have a dislike for. I find it's best to try to enjoy their work despite who they are and try to kind of not associate them with it so much. Like Todd McFarlane on Spider-Man, I really like Spider-Man, so I can ignore that it was drawn by one of the biggest egos in comics. Spawn on the other hand, kind of stank IMO.

Originally Posted by tablesalt (Post 591812)

Dave Sims problem isn't that he's a jerk, it's that he was publishing 16 page Unibomber-style manifestos on why all women are inferior, evil, stupid, and the most destructive force in the universe.
Most of the time, I don't care about a persons politics or personal beliefs, but there's a line. Holocaust denial is a line, and so is raging, medieval misogyny.

That aside, there's just something messy about having a cross-over in normal cannon. Sure, they can be a fun one-off, but to pull in a whole other universe in a normal issue is kind of distracting.

Normally, I'm fanatical about editing, but with Dave Sims, his involvement would actually make me less likely to buy.

Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man (Post 591829)

I've never really put much thought into crossovers. I always figured it's just part of the fun of these characters, even if the continuity doesn't always make sense. I don't know how they explained Marvel v. DC, but it was still cool to see the characters interacting with one another.

Originally Posted by tablesalt (Post 591993)

Marvel and DC aren't too jarring to integrate. I'm not completely against crossovers, I just think they should be relegated to specials.

Apparently, Laird's trying to establish an official cannon, and I understand why he wouldn't want the entire Cerberus universe as a part of it. They're publishing that Mirage universe book next year, should cerberus be included? I think it's better to just cut it out.

Originally Posted by turkishproverb (Post 592041)

Given they had gone reality hopping, I'm not seeing the issue with TMNT cannot. I think its probably just an excuse to remove more of Eastmans work, the same as the way he's "redoing" all of the first dozen V1 issues.