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Vivi 02-21-2009 10:30 PM

Lair Layout
 
Does anyone have a good idea of the layout of the lair?

Also, out of curiosity, which lair was your favorite? I liked the one from the original movie. From the 2K3 eps, probably the one they spent a majority of their eps in (a'lintiyan).

Ryona 02-22-2009 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vivi (Post 674493)
Does anyone have a good idea of the layout of the lair?

That's a good question. I've wondered that myself.

as for my fave lair, it would definetly be the lair of the original tv series. I really liked that it was made up of various rooms. And it had a very nice, settled, cozy look to it. It had a look like they really did live there for years and developed and organized their living space much like a typical home.

My second fave is the lair in the second movie. I liked that it was a section of an abandoned subway station, complete with a broken down subway train. And after the guys dressed up the place with things, it started looking pretty cozy.

The lair from the first movie, as well as the lair from the 2007 movie, I was cool with. They had a nice feel to it, but my problems with them was... well, the lair in the first movie I found to be way too cluttered and messy. And not messy in a "I made myself at home" kinda way, but more like they just tossed a bunch of junk into a storage room. That's what it looked like to me. Just a cluttered, messy storage unit rather than an actual living space.
The lair of the 2007 movie was pretty good, but I didn't get much of a cozy, "homey" feel from it. Looked more like some public hangout for teens (like a recreation center) than an actual home.

The one I liked least would have to be the huge spacious one in the 2k3 series. The one they found after the mousers.
What I didn't like about it was pretty much because it was huge and spacious. It was like a big auditorium. Hardly cozy. Like really, it was f***ing huge and hollowed out. You could put a space shuttle in the center.

I don't really have much of an opinion on the lair of the Mirage series because I just don't see much of it in the comics.

Dan 02-22-2009 07:07 AM

Here's a pic of the Back to the Sewer lair http://www.4kids.tv/images/uploads/turtlelair_large.jpg

Scandia 02-22-2009 07:29 AM

Oh I like the larger lair of the 2k3 series and the 4th movie. It is good for each member of the family to have his own space.

I like the one from the original TV series as well. It still gave everyone space in each room.

Vivi 02-22-2009 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona (Post 674555)
My second fave is the lair in the second movie. I liked that it was a section of an abandoned subway station, complete with a broken down subway train. And after the guys dressed up the place with things, it started looking pretty cozy.

When they find that lair is my favorite part of the second movie. I also agree that the A'lintyan lair from the 2K3 series was huge, but when they left it I was actually disappointed for them!

TheUltimateShredhead 02-22-2009 09:57 AM

I like ot's layout best, with each there rooms across eachother, with the blankets and the little tv and all. nt's high tech lair is great to, but i prefer the one in ot best.

Buslady 02-22-2009 12:57 PM

i liked the TMNT1 lair, 2k3 cos it fit the cartoon well, and i even didnt mind the subway lair, that was a good succession of the first home they had.

as for the cleanliness of the first movie lair, they live in a tunnel system, not far off the sewer & subway systems...it's not gonna be homey and cushy. They dont have a lot of room either.
Going to the subway lair was the solution...roomy, dojo areas, probably actual bathrooms donnie could fix with plumbing, internet access once he found the right wiring...

NightwatchersOnlygirl 02-22-2009 01:08 PM

I liked the 1st lair and the new toon one as for the underground one (subway) I liked that one too

Ryona 02-22-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 674564)
Here's a pic of the Back to the Sewer lair http://www.4kids.tv/images/uploads/turtlelair_large.jpg

That looks ridiculously futurestic. Looks more like Area 51 than the lair.


Now here's a lair that was designed to perfection..

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/8069/lair.jpg

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 03:07 PM

I second Ryona. I love the old lair layout.

I'd love to do a full layout of that lair through screenshots, but this as far as I've gotten. Can anyone else complete my collection?

Original Post

Alright, here's my attempt to map out some of the lair through caps from "Nightmare in the Lair." I think you are right that it isn't always consistent. The most glaring inconsistency is the sleeping area. Sometimes the Turtles are seen sleeping in bunk beds in a tunnel. Usually, they each have their own room. I wonder if Splinter sometimes made them sleep together for the sake of community?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/nlair1.jpg
TV... the centerpiece of the Turtles' lair. Without the TV, the plot doesn't happen.:D

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/nlair3.jpg
Turtles sit around watching TV. Exit/entrance is to the left side of this picture. Kitchen is behind them, slightly to the right.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/nlair5.jpg
Splinter emerges from the Kitchen.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair45.jpg
There is an entrance past the TV on the left, it leads to the hallway with the bedrooms. Obviously, kitchen is offscreen to the right.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair21.jpg
The TV couch is in the background. This is the bedroom area. Donatello's room is in the hole on the right.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair11.jpg
Mikey's room is also on the right, past Don's.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair12.jpg
Leo is in the center of the bedroom area. Each turtle has their own "room." Raph's (bottom left), Leo's rooms(top left), Don (top right) and Mike (bottom right).

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair18.jpg
This cat appears from the other side of the bedroom area. Splinter's meditation area is the room behind the cat.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair17.jpg
Donatello's room also functions as an entrance to his Lab. Creepy Eddie enters from the Lab through Don's room.

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 03:08 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair13.jpg
Entrance to Don's lab after passing through his room.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair43.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair29.jpg
Don's lab. The two holes in the background lead back to the bedroom area.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair30.jpg
Another angle on Don's lab.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair28.jpg
The other side wall of Don's lab.

Other shots:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/nlair6.jpg
Street entrance to the lair.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair20.jpg
Sewer entrance/exit to the Turtles' lair with lights out.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/nlair31.jpg
The main entrance with the lightswitch to the right.

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 03:08 PM

Here's some shots of the training room. My trouble is that I have no idea where in the lair it is located or how the Turtles get to it.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/snake3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/snake4.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/train2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/train3.jpg

There is at least one entrance to the training room, as "pirate" Raph demonstrates:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/train5.jpg

Next we see of Raph (in "Turtle of a Thousand Faces") he's taking off his costume in his own room. Could his room be an entrance to the training room?
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56.../raphroom2.jpg

Here's the rarely seen "library." It seems to me it may actually be part of Leo's room.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss2.jpg
Raph peeks in expecting to find Leo. Unfortunately, "Leonardo is Missing."
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/lmiss10.jpg

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 03:09 PM

Splinter's Lair
 
The entrance to Splinter's meditation area is behind Leo, who is in the bedroom commons. Raphael's room is to the right.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss9.jpg

Splinter's meditation area has at least one entrance leading to the bedroom area:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss8.jpg

Various angles of Splinter's lair (notice the different patterns on the changing room(?) in each shot):
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/splair3.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/splair5.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/splair1.jpg

In season 2, Splinter could be seen meditating in this room, apparently different from the lair used in other seasons:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/splair2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...plairmicro.jpg
This version had a microwave.

Cipher 02-22-2009 03:14 PM

Cool study of the lair, oldmanwinters. I think discrepencies with the bedrooms and meditation rooms stem from the fact that the lair wasn't clearly designed until season three. It seemed different in each episode for the first two seasons.

KROW 02-22-2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cipher (Post 674638)
Cool study of the lair, oldmanwinters.

I agree. Now all that's needed is for someone to find/create a blueprint of the entire complex to bring it all together.

Ryona 02-22-2009 03:50 PM

Duuuuude!... You totally rock, Oldmanwinters!
Fantastic study. I'm totally tempted to design an arcitectural-approach map of the lair based on your study.

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryona (Post 674645)
Duuuuude!... You totally rock, Oldmanwinters!
Fantastic study. I'm totally tempted to design an arcitectural-approach map of the lair based on your study.

Awesome, but there are still a few more rooms to go! That'd be great if you could diagram the whole place.

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 04:13 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56.../lairbooks.jpg
TV room, note the bookcase opposite the wall of the main sewer entrance.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/closet1.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/closet2.jpg
The closet. I'm guessing it's in the TV room, but can't place a particular wall.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...s/kitchen2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...s/kitchen1.jpg
Kitchen; TV room is through the tunnel hole in both shots.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...imphanger1.jpg
Tunnel to the blimp hanger.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...imphanger3.jpg
Looking into the Blimp hanger, but no blimp!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/donlab.jpg
More Don's lab junk.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...abscanner1.jpg
Don's lab, complete with giant computer!

oldmanwinters 02-22-2009 04:17 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...donlabexit.jpg
Exit/entrance to Don's lab with lightswitch. Again, the holes lead to his bedroom and then into the main lair hallway.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss5.jpg
Computer in Don's lair [near bedroom entrance/exit?]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/donlab2.jpg
Similar shot. Could there be another tunnel in Don's lab on the right?

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...aps/lmiss4.jpg
Messy shot of the bedroom hallway!

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ps/vacuum2.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...s/vaccuum1.jpg
Raph vacuums the TV room. Is that Don's room on his right?

Mr._Mutant_Man 02-22-2009 06:16 PM

I didn't know there was a Freddy Krueger like character in the old turtles cartoon.

Wasn't there a map of the Turtles lair in the Archie comics guidebook? I thought I remembered one being there.


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