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CyberCubed 03-04-2009 11:10 AM

Rank the TMNT universes from favorite to least favorite
 
I will begin.

2k3 series (includes 2k3, FF and BTTS)
Mirage universe (everything in Mirage continuity)
Original cartoon
Archie series
Movie universe (Movies 1-4)
Image series
TMNT anime OVA
Next Mutation


Next Mutation is last, unless you count those "Turtles on Tour" things.

AquaParade 03-04-2009 11:26 AM

Funny, I never really thought about this before. Alright, I'll give it my best shot...but ranking something like this is kinda tough for me...

1. Mirage - Original series. Ninja turtles as they are intended to be. What more can I say? The original run was great. I loved the grim art style, sense of family and adventure, and most of all the basic charm it just had.

2. Movie Universe - These were what I was watching most as a kid...the OT of course too, but these little vhs tapes were what always kept me coming back when I was younger, and still to this day, as dvd's:). To be honest, I'm mainly speaking of movie's one and two. I think the first one did a great job of adapting the mirage universe in a style acceptible to hollywood. This movie is just classic tmnt. I also have a soft spot for Secret of the Ooze. Someone on the forum actually mentioned something a while back about how the first movie was a great Mirage adaption, and SOTO was really just a great OT adaption, and that really struck a chord with me, once again upping my appreciation for SOTO. We kinda got both universes on screen within a few years of eachother. Pretty cool. The last two movies, I can enjoy, but aren't too memorable for me.


3....Tie.....It's super hard ranking all these, and I dont think I could past those top 2 lists. The original toon was my bread and butter as a child, and I definitely hold a soft spot for it....Especially the First season, which was totaly quality cartoon making if you ask me. 2k3 series...Really great compared to most cartoons coming out these days, and a totally great add to the tmnt mythos. I look forward to watching seasons 1-4 as they are released on dvd, and catching the episodes I missed, and basically just rediscovering what is so great about that show...It's been a while since I've seen some of those season 3 and 4 episodes.:D....As for everything else...it's all great. Love Image, Love archie, love etc...they are all fun in their own way. I never mind seeing the tmnt interpreted in as many ways as possible. They are so flexible.

Cipher 03-04-2009 11:32 AM

I tried making this thread once. People didn't seem too into it, even though I think it's really cool to think about. Oh well, here's mine:

1. Mirage (Vol 1, 2, 4 and Tales) - This is the best Turtles for me. I think I have a different reason for liking it than most people. Alot of people want to see "hardcore ninja" battles and uncensored violence and whatnot. I love it because despite all the surrealness of a world with aliens, ninjas, mutants and monsters, it's incredibly down-to-Earth. It's not a series about the Turtles fighting bad guys. It's a series about the Turtles trying to live their lives normally despite unacceptance and a slew of bizarre incidences.

I understand why people might prefer the 2003 cartoon if Mirage goes over their heads and they want some quick and dirty action. And the loose continuity and changing art styles of the comics can be off putting. But that just adds to the cool surreal feeling for me.

2. Image (Vol 1, 2, 3) - I really dig the art and get a kick out of the very '90s, "extremification" of the comic. There are some great ideas and character moments too. At the end of the day I slightly prefer the toned down direction of Volume 4, but it's a close call.

3. Archie - This only slightly beats out the 2003 cartoon. They're really similar in structre. Both are fun, action packed rides heavy on continuity, which can be entertaining for kids or adults. Archie wins because of its mutant characters. I'm a sucker for those guys.

4. 2003 Cartoon - See above. The show also introduced some great villains like Hun, Ch'rell, Bishop, Sh'Okanabo, and more who I wouldn't mind seeing again.

5. 1987 Cartoon - It's alot of fun, and there are days when I like it better than the 2003 cartoon. It's just that Archie took alot of the reasons why I love this series and improved upon them.

6. Movies - Three words. Wildly inconsistant tone.

7. Next Mutation - Had some concepts that could've worked, but the execution was god-awful.

8. Everything else - Because no one should love the Christmas special or "Coming Out of Their Shells."

Scandia 03-04-2009 11:51 AM

1) 2k3 cartoon. And that includes FF and BTTS.

2) Archie comics

3) 1987 cartoon

4) Mirage comics

5) Movies

6) Everything else

Jester 03-04-2009 12:06 PM

Hmmmm.....

1. Archie/2k3: They, as Cipher said are similar, fun yet action packed and heavy with continuity. Archie might have a slight edge here because of nostalgia.

2. Old Toon and Movies: Again Nostalgia, except maybe TMNT, which is to me the weakest of the 4.

3. Mirage/Image/Dreamwave (Comics...aside from Archie): To be honnest, I don't have much experience with them, and thus they are near the bottom of the list. Not really about "dislike" so much as "ignorance".

4. EVERYTHING ELSE!: NT:TNM...blech. The Christmas Special....gah! Coming Out Of Their Shells...Homophobic...j/k.

Buslady 03-04-2009 12:27 PM

In order:

Mirage

TMNT1 I consider TMNT1 seperate continuity from 2 and 3, cos it's just so different in tone, looks, talent, etc. They're all so damn inconsistent they're like their own universes.

TMNT4
2K3 (not including ff & bttf)
Old toon
TNM
Everything else...


oldmanwinters 03-04-2009 01:50 PM

Archie
Old Toon (I think much of its potential went undeveloped, as the Archie take illustrates well)
2k3-Back to the Sewers
Mirage
New Line films
TMNT CGI film
Image
Anime OVA

Did not qualify:
Next Mutation

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 677383)
Next Mutation is last, unless you count those "Turtles on Tour" things.

Technically, isn't "Turtles' Coming Out of their Shells Tour" in OUR universe?;)

Andrew NDB 03-04-2009 02:07 PM

1. Mirage.
2. Archie.
3. 4Kids Cartoon.
4. Movie-verse.
5. Fred Wolf Cartoon.
6. NT:TNM

NiNi 03-04-2009 02:12 PM

Hmmm...

1.) 2003 Cartoon/Fast Forward/BttS

2.) Archie comics

3.) Mirage Comics

4.) 1987 Cartoon

5.) Movies

6.) Anime OVA

7.) The Next Mutation

8.) Everything else - I wasn't a fan of the Image Comics for example. And I'm STILL weirded out that when I ordered the "Turtle Tunes" tape (yes, I torture myself with such pain - but I'm a huge TMNT fan, so I was curious) it totaled my VCR...maybe it was a sign saying "DO NOT WATCH!" XD

Guitar_Raph 03-04-2009 02:42 PM


Please don't hate me.

GOLD: Next Mutation (So it's crappy, costumes were cool & the rides were awesome, especially Raph's motorcycle!)

SILVER: Comin Out of Their Shells (TMNT drops the weapons & picks up instruments)

BRONZE: 2K3/Fast Forward/BTTS (Wayne Grayson did wonders as Mikey)

4: TMNT movies

Sorry, I won't rank the classic series & I hardly read comic books.

ToTheNines 03-04-2009 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph (Post 677434)
SILVER: Comin Out of Their Shells (TMNT drops the weapons & picks up instruments)

Dude, that's not a universe.

TristanHuwJones 03-04-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph (Post 677434)

Please don't hate me.
...I hardly read comic books.

I hate you.

:lol:

Cipher 03-04-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 677455)
Dude, that's not a universe.

It's a piece of Turtles fiction unconnected to any other, so I'd say it is.

This is the nerdiest conversation I have ever had on here.

Ryona 03-04-2009 05:22 PM

I thought I had posted in something like this already. But anyway, here we go!...

#1 - Mirage TMNT - volume 1
# 2 - Original TMNT tv series - season 1
# 3 - 2k3 TMNT tv series
# 4 - TMNT II - The Secret of the Ooze
# 5 - TMNT I
# 6 - Original TMNT tv series - season 2 and onward
# 7 - TMNT (2007)
# 8 - TMNT - Archie comics (haven't read alot of it, but what I've read is good)
# 9 - Mirage TMNT - volume 2 and onward (excluding vol. 3 aka Image, which was just a piece of ****)
# 10 - TMNT - the Japanese anime




Now, as for the worst pile of crap that stained TMNT forever...

- TMNT III (movie)
- TMNT - Image comics
- Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation
- Fast Forward
- Back to the Sewers
- Coming out of their Shells

How could anyone like the garbage of the second list? Honestly...


And Guitar Raph, sorry to say this, but you are.. well.. to put it delicately... weird. And not in the good way.

Raph's Girl 03-04-2009 05:47 PM

1: Archie
2: Dreamwave
3: 2K3
4: Mirage
5: Original Toon
6: TMNT 3
7: TMNT (2007)
8: TMNT 1 & 2
9: OVA
10: Musical stuff
11: Next Mutation
12: Image

Cipher 03-04-2009 06:14 PM

Why do people hate Image so much? Yeah, the over-the-top '90s edginess can be a little ridiculous, but I swear most people just look at it and say "Oh baw, the Turtles get mutilated. This sucks."

The characters themselves are almost undeniably better written than in Volume 4, for example.

Ryona 03-04-2009 06:33 PM

Well, when the Image TMNT were new on the shelves back then (and I was in highschool at the time), I looked through the first book and initially took all the exessive violence as "Oh, this is pretty badass. Finally, TMNT is back and edgey".
Then as one issue after another came out, and I was seeing how rediculous and just plain stupid everything was becoming, I was like, "F*** this ****".
The series quickly became disappointing and repulsive.

And I'd like to add that I too found volume 4 of Mirage TMNT unsatisfactory and weak.
TMNT somehow lost its way.

drasgow 03-04-2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cipher (Post 677389)
I tried making this thread once. People didn't seem too into it, even though I think it's really cool to think about. Oh well, here's mine:

1. Mirage (Vol 1, 2, 4 and Tales) - This is the best Turtles for me. I think I have a different reason for liking it than most people. Alot of people want to see "hardcore ninja" battles and uncensored violence and whatnot. I love it because despite all the surrealness of a world with aliens, ninjas, mutants and monsters, it's incredibly down-to-Earth. It's not a series about the Turtles fighting bad guys. It's a series about the Turtles trying to live their lives normally despite unacceptance and a slew of bizarre . incidences.

I understand why people might prefer the 2003 cartoon if Mirage goes over their heads and they want some quick and dirty action. And the loose continuity and changing art styles of the comics can be off putting. But that just adds to the cool surreal feeling for me.

2. Image (Vol 1, 2, 3) - I really dig the art and get a kick out of the very '90s, "extremification" of the comic. There are some great ideas and character moments too. At the end of the day I slightly prefer the toned down direction of Volume 4, but it's a close call.

3. Archie - This only slightly beats out the 2003 cartoon. They're really similar in structre. Both are fun, action packed rides heavy on continuity, which can be entertaining for kids or adults. Archie wins because of its mutant characters. I'm a sucker for those guys.

4. 2003 Cartoon - See above. The show also introduced some great villains like Hun, Ch'rell, Bishop, Sh'Okanabo, and more who I wouldn't mind seeing again.

5. 1987 Cartoon - It's alot of fun, and there are days when I like it better than the 2003 cartoon. It's just that Archie took alot of the reasons why I love this series and improved upon them.

6. Movies - Three words. Wildly inconsistant tone.

7. Next Mutation - Had some concepts that could've worked, but the execution was god-awful.

8. Everything else - Because no one should love the Christmas special or "Coming Out of Their Shells."


i was reading another thread about the turtles needing more enemies, and this is what i thought about. it's about some dudes' lives who happen to be extraordinary. it's not really a superhero book. i dig it. for the same reason.

Ryona 03-04-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drasgow (Post 677497)
i was reading another thread about the turtles needing more enemies, and this is what i thought about. it's about some dudes' lives who happen to be extraordinary. it's not really a superhero book. i dig it. for the same reason.

What the hell are you talking about?
Did you even post in the right thread?

Cipher 03-04-2009 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryona (Post 677503)
What the hell are you talking about?
Did you even post in the right thread?

He was responding to the bolded part of my post. It's all good.


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