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TMNTD 11-15-2009 08:15 PM

Super shredder
 
I watched SOTO today, and the logic behind Super Shredder had me thinking. I get how the mutagen changed Shredder's dna and made him more muscular, but what I don't get is ;

- How his increase in size didn't rip his outfit ( like the Hulk)

- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?

Candy Kappa 11-15-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTD (Post 734800)
- How his increase in size didn't rip his outfit ( like the Hulk)

cause it's stretchy

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Originally Posted by TMNTD (Post 734800)
- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?

The plot said so

logic don't comply with a movie featuring vanilla ice

Powder 11-15-2009 10:10 PM

Not to mention he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURTLES. He should've mutated into a turtle. Vanilla shell to be exact.

CyberCubed 11-15-2009 10:19 PM

Dude, they just wanted Shredder to get more powerful in the movie.

Best not to think of these things, its not like the second movie had this serious plot or anything.

oldmanwinters 11-15-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 734819)
Not to mention he was RIGHT NEXT TO THE TURTLES. He should've mutated into a turtle. Vanilla shell to be exact.

Seems like the rules of the mutagen in the movies operated more like the comics than the cartoon show. The ooze doesn't turn the subject into the being in closest proximity but simply increases their size and intellect (except in Shredder's case, doh!).

Aztec General 11-16-2009 05:15 PM

Have you considered that it's a really, really, really awful movie?

MrDizzyDEE 11-16-2009 05:27 PM

So, would he show up in another movie?? That would be sweet.

Desslok 11-16-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 734835)
increases intellect (except in Shredder's case, doh!).

Actually, that's Dr. Perry's doing. In one scene (in the subway I believe) the doctor explains that he tampered with the Shredder's ooze so that any mutants he would create would experience no increase in intellect, thus making them a bit less dangerous.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** 11-16-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Desslok (Post 734988)
Actually, that's Dr. Perry's doing. In one scene (in the subway I believe) the doctor explains that he tampered with the Shredder's ooze so that any mutants he would create would experience no increase in intellect, thus making them a bit less dangerous.

That's right!!! I keep thinking that Shredder drank a whole cannister of TGRI ooze, but in actuality he drank the vial he was going to pour all over that girl. Perry confiscated the cannister with ooze that hadn't been tampered with.

It ISN'T a sucky movie!!!

There should be rules here about movie bashing the way there are rules about not bashing the old 'toon.

saiyan_monkey 11-17-2009 02:22 AM

No need to bash any TMNT movie or tv show..

Thats what Streetfighter was made for :P

odupianist 11-17-2009 07:44 AM

This is me stretching it a bit, but what if Shredder's henchmen got the rest of the donuts with the capsules in them (after seeing what happened to Tokka and Rahzar) and got them to Shredder after they rescued him from the docks? Therefore, he can show up in another movie as his normal self. Too ridiculous?

Spitfire 11-17-2009 08:56 AM

I always thought that on top of the dock crushing him he also most likely had a heart attack.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-17-2009 10:03 AM

Clothes
 
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Originally Posted by TMNTD (Post 734800)
- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?

Because we don't want him running around naked in town. But he survives falling through a window, but as Super Shredder he probably dies when the wooden structure falls on him in the seaport.

shuriken 11-17-2009 03:50 PM

I always thought that it mutated the armor as well. I also don't think the wood killed him, he died of embarrasment. He couldn't handle facing the turtles after making a dock collapse on top of him.

DonatelloDomeHead31 11-17-2009 09:45 PM

According to Internet Movie Database, the actor under the Super Shredder costume is Kevin Nash, TNA wrestler. I was shocked when I saw that, I thought it was a joke.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-18-2009 06:55 AM

If he died at all
 
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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 735154)
I always thought that it mutated the armor as well. I also don't think the wood killed him, he died of embarrasment. He couldn't handle facing the turtles after making a dock collapse on top of him.

If he died at all...

GK Punk 11-18-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by donatello22 (Post 735239)
According to Internet Movie Database, the actor under the Super Shredder costume is Kevin Nash, TNA wrestler. I was shocked when I saw that, I thought it was a joke.

Nope, it's not a joke. That's actually a pretty well known fact that he is. He's even talked about it in interviews back in his WCW days.

Vivi 11-20-2009 07:26 AM

The wonders of Spandex.

cklinejr 11-20-2009 09:34 AM

I just watched II the other day, after not seeing it since I was a kid, and I gotta say II is my favorite.


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- Since the mutagen works on a biological level , then how did it alter Shredder's mask and shoulder armor ?
Perhaps it works on an atomic level, so thats why his helmet and spikes got bigger.

plus its just a movie. :) and it would have looked so lame for Super Shredder to be huge but have the same small helmet and armor. :lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-21-2009 03:35 AM

1987 cartoon
 
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Originally Posted by cklinejr (Post 735685)
I just watched II the other day, after not seeing it since I was a kid, and I gotta say II is my favorite.




Perhaps it works on an atomic level, so thats why his helmet and spikes got bigger.

plus its just a movie. :) and it would have looked so lame for Super Shredder to be huge but have the same small helmet and armor. :lol:

The 1987 cartoon had also several cases where the mutagen seemed to affect the clothes.


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