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k_lala 03-21-2010 04:58 PM

How did Shredder Chrell survive Secret Origins 3?
 
Seriously, I was thinking back to Secret Origins Part 3. It was the episode where they were inside the TCRI Building where the building imploded at the end and Chrell was caught inside.

How did he survive that? It was never properly explained.

Also I liked how he had a different voice when he was Chrell, just the alien bug. And when we was Oroku Saki, his voice was also different. And finally when he put his helmet on his voice got even darker. In the Turtles Forever it stayed constant. I enjoyed the different levels of his voice. Even Karai's voice changed when she wore the Shredder helmet.

ToTheNines 03-21-2010 05:25 PM

I suppose the foot found enough of his flesh for the "bio-cite" worms to rebuild him.

And the voice thing bothered me slightly in Turtles Forever, I guess they just wanted him to be as threatening as possible through out the whole film so they ditched his little Utrom voice.

Candy Kappa 03-21-2010 05:49 PM

maybe he swallowed the voice changing device

Turo602 03-21-2010 06:44 PM

I thought the same thing in Turtles Forever, his voice was all wrong. He sounded like Shredder and not like an Utrom.

gobo 03-21-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by k_lala (Post 761893)
It was never properly explained.

Rewatch "Rogue in the House" Part One.

Icebot 03-21-2010 07:05 PM

Maybe Ch'rell got teleported from the transmat. He was just standing on the transmat when the building imploded, and that was right after the turtles activated it. The transmat probably just teleported Ch'rell, and a second later, the building imploded.

Spitfire 03-21-2010 07:20 PM

It was pretty heavily insinuated that he was a worm clone. He says "The worms are almost done healing me." but when the worms "healed" Shredder in the comics they ate his dead body and became him. Being it's a kids program they probably left that detail out but as a comic fan I'll assume that's what happened.

odupianist 03-22-2010 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 761942)
It was pretty heavily insinuated that he was a worm clone. He says "The worms are almost done healing me." but when the worms "healed" Shredder in the comics they ate his dead body and became him. Being it's a kids program they probably left that detail out but as a comic fan I'll assume that's what happened.

That's exactly what I assumed as well. The worms are clear as day. It just takes a bit more insight to make the connection for those that know the comics.

The Big Bad 03-22-2010 08:54 AM

Yeah, and to me, "Back to the Sewer" all but confirmed it. We know they have technology to more-or-less create monsters from scratch (the Shredder "clones"), and we know that they had the tech to preserve the Shredder's mind in a cybernetic back-up. Add those two facts, plus the fact that the explosion seemed to take care of everything, the worms, and that "Something Wicked" specifically flashed back to "Rogue in the House", and that's the conclusion that seems most plausible.

CyberCubed 03-22-2010 10:58 AM

Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

gobo 03-22-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Bad (Post 762029)
"Something Wicked" specifically flashed back to "Rogue in the House", and that's the conclusion that seems most plausible.

It did? o_O

Coola Yagami 03-22-2010 06:26 PM

Yeah it was the only time we saw Karai in Back to the Sewers, well I mean in her Foot outfit.

k_lala 03-22-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 761935)
Rewatch "Rogue in the House" Part One.

I think he first reappeared in City at War part 3 when Karai was first introduced.

megashredder 10-09-2010 02:00 AM

He was cloned by His fot technitians and Stockman back to live.

megashredder 10-09-2010 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 762051)
Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

Actully that'skind of make's more sence but. Who know.
thats the good thing about this show you can fill in the blanks your self.

Xav 10-09-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by megashredder (Post 802129)
He was cloned by His fot technitians and Stockman back to live.

Yeah but wasn't stockman working with the mob at the time?

shuriken 10-10-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 762051)
Nah, I think it was the same Ch'rell and not a clone. I just think he got heavily mutilated/deformed during the explosion and the worms healed back his flesh.

I like the heavily mutilated idea.... I bet he looked like a a squid cut in half and covered in jelly. mmmmmmmm Jelly.

megashredder 04-29-2011 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 802197)
Yeah but wasn't stockman working with the mob at the time?

Yeah your right. I think After secret origins Karai knowing shredder was dead and with the help of the foot had worms clone shredder from tissue samples they saved. And They gave him the memory they talked about saving in Something Wicked. Plus in City at war he said "Soon I"ll be myself again." And there were tubes in his head

TobTurn 04-30-2011 10:36 AM

I don't think Ch'rell was cloned. He was the same, but he was just heavily injured. He said that the worms had almost finished healing his flesh. It shouldn't have to be healed if it wasn't injured.

And for the voice-thing, his Utrom-voice already changed in Exodus. That's 4 years before Turtles Forever, so it's good that they did that. It was weird that it changed in Exodus, but it would've been more weird if it changed AGAIN.
It also made him more menacing, and that's what the creators were going for.
Ch'rell as menacing as possible and the 80's Shredder and Krang as foolish as possible.
I like him more with the menacing voice, as I can do an impression of that :P

PS. I just watched the clip where we see him again after the explosion, and he said: 'Soon, I will be myself AGAIN.' So it's the same Ch'rell.

Jester 04-30-2011 10:48 AM

Yeah, I agree. They started the "only speaks in Shredder voice" probably as early as Same as it Never Was. Kinda bugged me at first...but not really a big deal.


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