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saul 03-24-2010 02:16 PM

Why did Splinter not show the canister until TMNTII?
 
He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?

Spitfire 03-24-2010 02:25 PM

He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.

Candy Kappa 03-24-2010 02:55 PM

the plot monster said so

Powder 03-24-2010 02:58 PM

We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

Candy Kappa 03-24-2010 03:07 PM

I blame the plot:P

BoggleKng 03-24-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 762566)
We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

Indeed.. :ohwell:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 03-24-2010 03:19 PM

Ooze
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saul (Post 762554)
He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?

Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

lilmotto 03-24-2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 762575)
Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

Politics.... I don't want to get into it

Coola Yagami 03-24-2010 08:13 PM

Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?

Koi 03-24-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 762566)
We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

It is better then the Raph vs. Leo thread.

Everything that Spitfire said, it looks like the best answer.

Turo602 03-24-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 762556)
He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.

Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole:lol:

ToTheNines 03-24-2010 10:03 PM

We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.

oldmanwinters 03-24-2010 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 762661)
We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.

So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

ToTheNines 03-24-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 762669)
So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

Correct.

Another TMNT example: Splinter saying "utrom shredder" in the season 5 flashback, although he had no idea Shredder was an ooty.

DonatelloDomeHead31 03-24-2010 11:59 PM

The title said: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Secret of the Ooze.

So if he had shown it before then, then it wouldn't be a secret :lol:

Turo602 03-25-2010 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 762669)
So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

No, Splinter told the story, and we saw the events of that time. He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway. So Splinter is a liar and found a new canister and was being dramatic for a movie's plot.:lol:

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 03-25-2010 08:36 AM

Mirage
 
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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 762634)
Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?

I looked at the first 1984 Mirage issue on the Ninjaturtles webside http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/one/pg16.htm and it says ooze so that's correct.

Mighty Bebop 03-25-2010 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 762575)
Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

I seem to recall the term "retromutagen ooze." Was that from the OT?

Ulisses31 03-25-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 762655)
Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole:lol:

Splinter wrote TGRI just to get the turtles to do his dirty work.:trolleye:

ToTheNines 03-25-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602 (Post 762718)
He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway.

Unless you're some sort of dumb f*ck, that's an assumed piece of information.


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