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Andrew NDB 04-20-2010 07:14 PM

Kevin Eastman inking Frank Fosco
 
You can find a peek at this in the Image Conclusion thread, but as I think it just might warrant its own thread... here it is:

Before... (pencilled by Frank Fosco)

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/t25-fin.jpg



And now... after. (inked now by Kevin Eastman)

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/t25-2.jpg

And after contrasting, readying-for-Photoshop:

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/t25-3.jpg

The final version, after colors from Sabacooza!

http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/t25-4.jpg

Powder 04-20-2010 07:28 PM

What I especially love is that it has so much of a super early vol.1 look to it. There were later issues of kevins that were more defined, cleaner, etc... but I like the grungey stuff much better.

oldmanwinters 04-20-2010 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 768576)
What I especially love is that it has so much of a super early vol.1 look to it. There were later issues of kevins that were more defined, cleaner, etc... but I like the grungey stuff much better.

It does have a very early Eastman feel to it. Kinda reminds me of his work on Prime Slime #1. I like the eyes on Lady Shredder. It does look pretty confusing in the back left corner where Donny is fighting in the tunnel, though.

VaughnMichael 04-20-2010 07:33 PM

Pretty wild, reminds me of Kevin's art in "Zombie War".

Samhain 04-20-2010 08:08 PM

Awesome. It has that gritty feel to it which I love.

Venom 04-20-2010 09:27 PM

Man, so much love in that piece; almost makes ya wonder how differently the franchise would have been if Peter had left first.

oldmanwinters 04-20-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 768669)
Man, so much love in that piece; almost makes ya wonder how differently the franchise would have been if Peter had left first.

WARNING:Seeing how this is a thread about the awesomeness of the artistic piece, be warned that reading my comment could potentially side track this thread into a petty battle of empty words and strongly held opinions!

Spoiler:
In all fairness to Kevin's awesome sense of action, I'm pretty sure I'd prefer Laird as the head honcho, given the choice between the two of them, flawed leader though he has been. I think Peter had more hands on love for the property (overbearing and controlling at times) whereas Kevin was more apt to just loan the Turtles out to whomever wanted to take a crack at the franchise (the Bodycount miniseries, Saban and the Next Mutation series, Hedden & McWeeney, etc.).

Cipher 04-20-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Venom (Post 768669)
Man, so much love in that piece; almost makes ya wonder how differently the franchise would have been if Peter had left first.

I think you could have kissed any sense of continuity good-bye.

Anyway, awesome piece. Only gripe is how dark the upper-left corner is. I know he wanted to lay on the grit, but it gets a bit muddled. This'll benefit from some color.

Venom 04-20-2010 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 768673)
Fairly expressed opinion...
the Bodycount miniseries...

Bodycount was actually Kevin's idea. He wanted to do a John Woo-type comic with his two favorite characters: Raph and Casey.

The point I was personally implying was how the comic may have reverted to its underground roots since he would have had free will to do his dark and gritty stories. I like Kevin's works, and while Heavy Metal readers give him flak for "ZOMG ruining the magazine", he still has that "underground" vibe to him that is so down to earth and awesome.

Plus, even though he's but a tiny blip on the overall entertainment industry, some pretty big names seem to respect him/Heavy Metal so who knows, he could have made the badass Turtles movie we've all longed for come to fruition.

It's all futile speculation, anyway.

BigApple3AM 04-20-2010 11:35 PM

The first image is totally Frank Fosco, loving it.

The second inked image is totally retro Kevin Eastman. Love it too.

Thanks for sharing this!

Archon_Turtle 04-20-2010 11:54 PM

what does frank think about the inking drew?

Topsu 04-21-2010 12:05 AM

I like Frank Foscos art and I like Kevin Eastmans art. But to be honest, I really don't like Eastman inks on this one, this style just doesn't mix too well with Foscos style. Fosco draws so thin lines, yet Eastman has always used a bit thicker lines and a bit different style.
Eastman also seemed to give Raph two eyes too intead of that eyepatch, but that can be corrected with coloring.

Andrew NDB 04-21-2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Topsu (Post 768710)
Eastman also seemed to give Raph two eyes too intead of that eyepatch, but that can be corrected with coloring.

He's not supposed to be wearing an eyepatch there.

You didn't notice Leo with both hands, and Donatello back to normal there, too? :)

Spitfire 04-21-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Topsu (Post 768710)
I like Frank Foscos art and I like Kevin Eastmans art. But to be honest, I really don't like Eastman inks on this one, this style just doesn't mix too well with Foscos style. Fosco draws so thin lines, yet Eastman has always used a bit thicker lines and a bit different style.

I agree with this. I think it's totally awesome that Eastman got involved but his inking made the image harder to discern. I feel like detail was gained in some places and lost in others.

Still awesome though, glad to see the wheels moving.

Topsu 04-21-2010 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 768716)
He's not supposed to be wearing an eyepatch there.

You didn't notice Leo with both hands, and Donatello back to normal there, too? :)

I did notice Leo and Don, but it seems in pencils that Raph still misses his eye...

Oh well, just checked from comics, and it's his left eye that should be missing, while in this one I thought his right one was. Sorry, my bad.

Nelson 04-21-2010 06:52 AM

I agree with what others have said. As good as it is to see Eastman involved, and to see that his style has remained, it kind of doesn't work here. It does give the art a gritty, volume one feel. But volume 3 isn't volume 1.

The final piece looks great, but Fosco's version is a lot better in my opinion.
Just look at Cheng's face for an example.

CyberCubed 04-21-2010 10:50 AM

Its fine, but I do agree there's blogs of "dark" there.

I can't wait to see it colored though. I hope it brings a bit of the lost detail back.

discordiatookie 04-21-2010 03:21 PM

Bloody awesome. Andrew NDB - you are awesome for making all this happen.

Oculus Orbus 04-22-2010 02:02 AM

I can see why many of you guys find it a bit too dark, but for me, this art is awesome. It doesn't look like the rest of Volume 3, that's for sure, but it doesn't need to. The fact that it's Eastman inking makes the change of style completely worth it. And also, it's only the cover, wich doesn't really affect the continuity in the art.

Some bits are a bit confusing, but when coloured it's gonna look perfectly clear.

Vivi 04-22-2010 03:28 AM

The Eastman inking is old school rad, it really invokes memories of the original comics. That said, Fosco's lines in this are beyond awesome, I would love to see another version finely inked to do it justice.


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