Dude takes Discovery Channel hostage for promoting human procreation
 

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/01/...pt=T1&iref=BN1


Aaaaand now he's dead.

He apparently had some beef with human procreation, calling people filth and some sort. There's more accurate wording in the article.

Yeah, I heard about this. Dude was messed up.

I remember when they came out on the news and said he was dead. Wonder what triggers people to do that type of thing.

Small penis? I dunno. Good riddance to bad gene-pools. Glad none of the hostages were hurt.

He does have a point though, people really do need to stop breeding.

Well, they aren't going to do it on their own. Just a matter of time before the US and other countries are going to have to adopt policies similar to China in that regard... and maybe they have the right idea.

Sadly, you're both right. It's either population control, or mass starvation. One or the other is inevitable. Overpopulation is what happens when society pressures people to procreate as young as possible, and refuses to talk about contraception as though it is a dirty word.

People are starving NOT because there isn't enough food, but because our economic systems are set up in such a way as to keep those who are starving from getting the food.

Want to lower the birth rate?
Educate women and give them equal access to "the market".

Nah. I think at this point, we pretty much ought to (temporarily... like some kind of reversible surgical procedure) sterilize everyone and when they're an adult, have them apply for a "parenting license."

Ah, well so long as we're being "practical" about it, can this procedure be done to boys only?

Or better yet, encourage pre-licencing homosexuality?

I seriously agree with this. The parenting process should be like the adoption process. Background check, credit check, see if the parent have a stable home, and a mental test should be given out. That way (hopefully) there would be more stable parents.

But, if that was the case then I wouldn't be here....: /

Nope -- boys and girls alike.

For one reason (apart from the interest of equality), we're just talking about people in the U.S. here... Don Fertilez Ramirez could still come to the U.S. on a visa (from a non-mandatory-temp-sterilization country) and knock up half of California in a week.

I don't know that someone's sexual taste has much to do with (too many) new lives being created/brought into the world. Unless I'm misunderstanding.

Yeah, consider my support of your totally not-practical plan officially pulled.

Same-sex sexual encounters don't result in accidental pregnancy. So if we encouraged people to have sex with those of their gender prior to their licensing for parenthood...no babies.
Apparently an idea of this shape and size is supposed to be in the Gay Agenda, but I've never seen it. Of course I haven't gotten my official toaster yet either, so what do I know?

This has gotten so stupid so quickly...

To be fair, the subject of the thread wasn't all that smart himself.
I feel we honor his newly minted Darwin Award by continuing with equal, but more socially acceptable, levels of stupidity.

Well, the night is young, isn't it?

He was too much of a radical and quite insane so no big loss. But I agree that he did have a point. Just look at how insane is the population density in Asia. And not to mention that 4 billion people live there.

On the other hand, Europe and Japan have been facing a decline in births in the past years, Italy and Spain used to have two of highest fertility rates in Europe and now they have some of the lowest, seems that Catholics finally embraced condoms so I have no idea why the heck their Church hasn't embraced them yet.

The Japanese might go extinct this century, they don't want to have children and don't want immigrants in their country.

The world lacks balance. The problem is the lack of education and extreme poverty in most of Africa, many places in Asia and some in Central/South America.

As for your forced sterilization ideas, I don't think they'd work when put into practice. If many countries Governments started sterilizing newborn babies it would be very costly and I'm sure the vast majority of their parents wouldn't aprove. There are even people who don't aprove the housebreaking of pets, let alone consider the housebreaking of their kids.

So, I think that the best solution would be for most Governments of poor countries to do
something similar to what China used to do, 1 child per couple. Of course that would be complicated due to religious beliefs of many of those countries, they'd have to be secularized first before attempting this.

As for Homossexuality, I think that it might be Nature's way of balancing the world's population, too bad that the Governments of some African and Asian countries haven't realized this yet and prefer locking them up or even execute them.

Thankfully, statistics are coming out showing that people in America are in fact having fewer children, due to the recession. People are finally realizing that having kids you can't afford to raise ruins the lives of everyone involved. I'm sure residents of low-income areas will continue to pop out a half dozen welfare babies and then blame "the system" for keeping them poor, but at least it's a start.

Fewer people wasting their lives and money raising ungrateful kids that are destined to go to college and get addicted to coke and pills and turning out more worthless than their parents. Fewer ugly babies for me to have to look at. Seems win/win from my end.

But then again I'm of the opinion that EVERYONE should be sterilized at birth. Few things would give me more pleasure than watching the destruction of the human race once and for all play itself out, and to see it happen in my lifetime. Sigh... a man can dream, though.

That does make some sense, though homosexuality (as well as bisexuality) has existed in Nature way before even humans have existed.

I'm glad there's so many people here who don't want kids or want to have to apply for licences they'd never qualify for.....more room for mine when I have them. Hooray for the continuation of my and my guy's genepool!

The Discovery Channel guy was a nut job.