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azrael 09-22-2010 11:00 PM

Unbelievable...
 
Does anyone here believe in the manipulation of elements?

Fire, earth, air, water, and void...

I read the book of 5 rings almost like a bible. Each time I read it I feel as if I unlock a deeper or hidden meaning.
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BubblyShell22 09-24-2010 12:54 PM

Nope. I think it's too illogical like many other things.

azrael 09-24-2010 04:05 PM

How is it illogical? I know this maybe a stupid example but what about the history show where they find "real" superpowers? there are video on line of a guy from the 60's(?) egniting a news paper with just thought. What about shaolin monks? Are you a seeing is believing?
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Venom 09-24-2010 10:50 PM

I believe it's possible to a very limited degree since everything in its most basic form is nothing more than frequencies, vibrations, and wavelengths. Of course, our small size in comparison to the universe at large would make any disturbance we created seem like prestidigitation. There is certainly far more things that seems "illogical" that are perfectly natural and explainable, our limited knowledge only deems them as "illogical".

shuriken 09-25-2010 02:27 PM

Well considering that everything in it's most basic form is energyand atoms, than yes I do believe that we as humans do have this capacity to a very small degree manipulate fire, air, and water. Not so sure about earth though. Also taking into account what we see touch taste and smell is only like 1/100th of reality it would be "illogical" not to think that certain people have at least a miniscule amount of manipulative powers. My two cents

Katie 09-26-2010 08:41 PM

We do manipulate the elements.

Ever build a fire?


Use an air-conditioner? Or a fan?


Turn on or off a water faucet....or freeze or boil water?


Ever built a sand castle?

shuriken 09-26-2010 09:25 PM

^^ Touche'. Although I'm pretty sure Azrael meant something a little more along the lines of Airbender. Regardless, you win.:)

ToTheNines 09-27-2010 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 799997)
Each time I read it I feel as if I unlock a deeper or hidden meaning.

Like what?

azrael 09-27-2010 06:55 PM

It seems like when I first read it I took it as surface value then the more I read it its almost as if my character and demeanor change like how to manipulate the elements with my self to perform when nessacary. (although it doesnt help with spelling ;)) Its wierd I really cant explain it i dont think. When I train it shows.
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BubblyShell22 09-29-2010 09:31 AM

Yes, I'm the type that doesn't believe in things unless I get proof. I'm just more of a logical person than most people I guess. I just don't see the logic in manipulating the elements in the way you've described. Katie's example is definitely proof that we can manipulate elements in our human way.

azrael 09-30-2010 08:06 PM

Katies way is more scientific, maybe alchemic. I can agree with that. Have you ever tried to do it? I think if you did you would have to get that mental block down (logical thinking).
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Candy Kappa 10-01-2010 06:04 AM

Sounds like a book Tigi Mataalii would write... or read

azrael 10-01-2010 10:46 PM

A quick search has him as a senior in kendo and judo with olympic medals ..... He has read it, I would almost bet he has. For anyone who is in a bad spot in life, takes martial arts, draws, writes, or almost anything can get something from THE BOOK OF FIVE RINGS, BY MIYAMOTO MUSASHI.
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Candy Kappa 10-02-2010 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 801226)
A quick search has him as a senior in kendo and judo with olympic medals ..... He has read it, I would almost bet he has. For anyone who is in a bad spot in life, takes martial arts, draws, writes, or almost anything can get something from THE BOOK OF FIVE RINGS, BY MIYAMOTO MUSASHI.

yeah... did you also find he is a hack and a fake?

he claims to have won Olympics Medals in Judo and Karate in the 1968 Olympics. Two problems, one Karate is NOT a Olympic sport and Judo wasn't in event in 1968. and the videos you can find about him, he's just doing simple "magic" tricks, some he don't even do properly. :roll:

The man is also with a guy named Greg Parker and his cult of wannabee ninjas. They call them selves Choson Ninja and claims Ninjitsu and all kinds of martial arts comes from Korea and steals techniques from real schools and replicates them so poorly it's laughable.

best part with this group is that Greg their own leader ruined his own bluff by presenting a straight Katana sword and said it had been passed down for generations and was a genuine Ninja sword.

azrael 10-02-2010 10:05 AM

I did not know that I simply googled his name I did not click on the links....

Miyamoto Musashi is one of the greatest swordsmen of Japan.
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Hannah 10-02-2010 05:44 PM

Okay, seriously. This is why I've come to resent this section. Jesus f*cking Christ. This forums is full of idiots. I quit. I'm done.

Koi 10-02-2010 06:42 PM

I thought they were all being sarcastic... :l

Katie 10-03-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 801078)
Katies way is more scientific, maybe alchemic. I can agree with that. Have you ever tried to do it? I think if you did you would have to get that mental block down (logical thinking).

See, I stopped believing in magic when I was a little Katie. I don't believe that (in the way you're talking about anyway) manipulating matter is possible. Old hokey religions and whatnot. Now my ancestors believed in that kind of stuff...dream walking...shapeshifting...spirit guides and all that hooey. Know how you get those beliefs? Too much time in the smoke lodge.

Candy Kappa 10-04-2010 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael (Post 801260)
Miyamoto Musashi is one of the greatest swordsmen of Japan.

you do know his book is philosophical and not literal?

Go Rin No Sho is a book about Martial Arts, Swordsmanship and military Strategy with a very heavy philosophical way of writing. It have nothing to do with elemental bending or magic, it's a bout becoming a better killer in combat.

and by this thread I'd say you did not get the meaning of the book, and I will be as rude to say I think you are not fit to read Go Rin No Sho.

azrael 10-04-2010 11:58 AM

Wow so I guess you are, congradulations. So you already knew musashi wrote the book of five rings to contain the hidden kata for his school, among other deeper meanings.... Also by the way your wrong, its not about being a better killer, its about being a better strategic person (thats why in some buisness schools you would read this). You sir are very immature to think its about killing. I also never said that its about bending elements like the last airbender. I simply ment the elements from within. I made 2 seperate statements maybe to talk about philosophies and if that did not work then maybe some people still believe in questionable things.
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