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Powder 12-24-2010 02:45 AM

OAV Canonocity?
 
I know the OAV (Super Turtles Anime) was considered its own series or whatever, but it's basically the exact same thing as the regular OT. Aside from the slight visual differences due to a different animation studio, and Shredders armor, it's spot on. Same lair, same city, same personalities, etc. So with that being said, do you consider these episodes to be unofficially canon? That the events of these two eps took place at some point during the 10 seasons we had back in the day?
Also, was it intended to be canon at all?

gobo 12-24-2010 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 812572)
Canonocity

I detect a hint of ridiculosity there, but I think the proper form of that word is "canonicality".
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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 812572)
Aside from the slight visual differences due to a different animation studio

Bee Media... But, what studio animated the OT? Was Fred Wolf Films actually an animation studio? :-?
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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 812572)
So with that being said, do you consider these episodes to be unofficially canon? That the events of these two eps took place at some point during the 10 seasons we had back in the day?

It's like if Archie's TMNT Adventures had gotten an animated, faithful adaptation... Archie's continuity was a splinter timeline of the OT as they had the same opening stories, but veered in different directions. So, the OT's Eye Of Sarnath epic and Archie's storyline about Sarnath coming to Earth to reclaim his eye couldn't have existed in the same universe. Same thing with the TMNT mangas (Japanese comics)... There were a number of OT eps adapted before the Super Turtles adventures. So, likely, if we cobbled together a playlist of the OT eps adapted in the mangas followed by the OVA, we could consider that another branch for the OT multiverse. ^_^
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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 812572)
was it intended to be canon at all?

Doubt it... Big time...

DrSpengler 12-24-2010 09:45 AM

I'm a Transformers fan and contributor at TFWiki.net, so I tend to see things from the TFWiki point of view: "everything is canon, but not everything is in the same continuity."

The Super Turtles OVAs are canon with the Japanese version of the Old Toon, which only ran for 101 episodes.

So I just see the US and Japanese versions of the show splintering off after 101 episodes into two separate continuities. The US goes in the direction of the rest of the series as we know it, into Red Sky and all that, while Japan went with the Super Turtle OVAs.

I've always rationalized it as such and been content.

gobo 12-24-2010 10:19 AM

^^ I approve this 'splanation. :D Good job, TMNT manga collector. ^_^

Spitfire 12-24-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 812607)
Bee Media... But, what studio animated the OT? Was Fred Wolf Films actually an animation studio? :-?.

Yeah and they did porn cartoons before turtles. Seriously look it up.

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"Naked Ape" - 1972
Animated/Live-Action Theatrical Release: Produced for Playboy Productions
Oh also they did like Toxic Avenger and some other crap.

gobo 12-24-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire (Post 812615)
Oh also they did like Toxic Avenger and some other crap.

Ya mean Toxic Crusaders? I know they did Pound Puppies, also distributed by F.H.E., back in the day.

Spitfire 12-24-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 812619)
Ya mean Toxic Crusaders? I know they did Pound Puppies, also distributed by F.H.E., back in the day.

Yeah that, which was ironically panned for being a TMNT bandwagon jumper.

List of their stuff ala Wiki

* The Point
* Free to Be... You and Me (select animated segments)
* The Mouse and His Child
* Puff the Magic Dragon (3 TV specials)
* The Little Rascals Christmas Special
* Strawberry Shortcake TV specials (1st[1] and 3rd ones only)
* Peter and the Magic Egg
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)[2]
* Toxic Crusaders
* Dino Babies
* Budgie the Little Helicopter[3]
* The New Adventures of Speed Racer
* The California Raisin Show
* Barnyard Commandos
* James Bond Jr.
* The Fantastic Voyages of Sinbad the Sailor
* Alvin and The Chipmunks (eleven episodes from the sixth season)

Here's their website if you want more stuff they did.
http://www.fredwolffilms.com/

I think it was made in 1996 and never updated yesh.

TheCanadiandrome 12-24-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 812608)
I'm a Transformers fan and contributor at TFWiki.net, so I tend to see things from the TFWiki point of view: "everything is canon, but not everything is in the same continuity."

The Super Turtles OVAs are canon with the Japanese version of the Old Toon, which only ran for 101 episodes.

So I just see the US and Japanese versions of the show splintering off after 101 episodes into two separate continuities. The US goes in the direction of the rest of the series as we know it, into Red Sky and all that, while Japan went with the Super Turtle OVAs.

I've always rationalized it as such and been content.

sounds good to me

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Originally Posted by gobo (Post 812614)
^^ I approve this 'splanation. :D Good job, TMNT manga collector. ^_^

lol :tlol:

Powder 12-24-2010 06:10 PM

Well, that's been summed up well enough!

oldmanwinters 12-26-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler (Post 812608)

So I just see the US and Japanese versions of the show splintering off after 101 episodes into two separate continuities. The US goes in the direction of the rest of the series as we know it, into Red Sky and all that, while Japan went with the Super Turtle OVAs.

This is the best theory. It's just like how the Archie-Verse splintered from the OT after issue #4. It seems the multi-verse is splintering all the time!

See Demon-Alucards's excellent chart:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...16&postcount=1


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