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CyberCubed 10-14-2011 11:12 PM

Are you OK with the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi again?
 
Since we know Splinter will be the human Hamato Yoshi before mutation, its basically the same as the original cartoon and Archie version of Splinter...where he was a human.

This will make Yoshi and Shredder's rivalry carry through the series, but on the other hand it means Splinter isn't trying to avenge his dead master. It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior.

Personally I am fine with it. As I've always liked the old toon/Archie version of his origin too.

Powder 10-14-2011 11:17 PM

Sure thing, though I prefer Splinter starting out as Yoshi, it makes no difference to me. But he turtles gotta always start out as turtles for me.

Slap-Happy 10-14-2011 11:35 PM

This is one of the things I like about the new show. I really dig that they're bringing back OT elements.

EDIT: Should've read all the poll options, I prefer the rat origin, but like the human one too.

CyberCubed 10-14-2011 11:57 PM

I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there.

If Nick was the first time they were doing this, I wonder if it would cause as much uproar as "teen April" and such...

Stingray69 10-15-2011 12:47 AM

Wow can't believe the votes yes I like this origin is getting haha. I'm fine with either but prefer the rat. And splinter very well still see the turtles as sons human first or not.

Jester 10-15-2011 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 882365)
I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there.

If Nick was the first time they were doing this, I wonder if it would cause as much uproar as "teen April" and such...

Good point. Since FW and Archie already ran with the Hamato Splinter angle, it's an acceptable change. I don't know what we'd think if there never was a continuity where Splinter was Hamato Yoshi until now. I'm sure there'd be similar outrage, but would Nick have even made that drastic a change without the precedent of the FW series?

Luzmagica 10-15-2011 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 882365)
I think the reason this is accepted is many of us were introduced to the original cartoon origin first, so the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi has always been there....

Yes...I feel similar about this....
Anyway I voted 3ยบ option : I prefer A LOT the rat origin, but I still like the human origin too....(well ...not so bad anyway....) :tgrin:

Bauer536 10-15-2011 06:40 AM

Considering this is different from the comic or film origin, I don't mind Splinter being Yoshi again. There's just got to be a plotline where Shredder thinks he killed him or something. What's bugging me is who the heck his daughter is going to be. If it's a girl named Karai, she better be younger than the turtles and not the daughter of Shredder's.

plastroncafe 10-15-2011 07:46 AM

I think the rat origin is problematic from an cultural/ethnic angle.

Jephael 10-15-2011 07:58 AM

I'm very excited to see how they show Yoshi's mutation into Splinter on the new show!

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 10-15-2011 12:16 PM

1987 TMNT cartoon
 
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 882361)
It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior.

1987 TMNT cartoon Splinter still did.

cryan 10-15-2011 01:04 PM

I just think(story wise)Yoshi and Splinter being the same character makes more sense.I said this many times in the past but I just couldn't buy into a rat mimicing his master's moves in the first movie.

BubblyShell22 10-15-2011 04:30 PM

I chose option three. While I prefer him being a rat, him being a human isn't a bad thing as long as he's still a father figure and doesn't sit on the sidelines. I'd rather see him fight alongside his sons.

Andrew NDB 10-15-2011 04:36 PM

I'm only glad that this cartoon already had (the existing hardcore fandom aside) no chance of being seriously watched by anyone over the age of 5.

Jester 10-15-2011 05:14 PM

What? Andrew said something negative about a Turtle universe not the original Mirage comics...I'm shocked and a little dismayed.

Xav 10-15-2011 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982 (Post 882455)
1987 TMNT cartoon Splinter still did.

I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

Jester 10-15-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 882478)
I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

Exactly. I was disappointing re-watching the FW series by how infrequently Splinter calls the Turtles his "sons." Mostly "friends" and "students"

CyberCubed 10-15-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 882478)
I don't remember 1987 Splinter ever calling calling the turtles his sons.

He calls them his sons in quite a few episodes, you just have to pay attention.

He mostly called them, "My students" in the old show though.

ssjup81 10-15-2011 05:59 PM

I personally prefer this origin to the rat one. I always preferred it because to me, it felt like the dislike between Saki and Yoshi was more on a personal level. With the rat origin, it just felt way too indirect...and I still have a hard time accepting that a rat practiced martial arts in his cage and was able to teach it. I prefer Yoshi being mutated with a background of his former life (kind of difficult to write one about a rat, don't you think?) and it makes more sense for him to already be a master and makes more sense to me to have him train the turtles as opposed to a rat hell-bent on getting revenge for his owner.

Andrew NDB 10-15-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81 (Post 882490)
(kind of difficult to write one about a rat, don't you think?)

What a strange question to post to the TMNT fandom.


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