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TheSkeletonMan939 11-08-2011 03:40 PM

What episodes could you have done without?
 
There are some episodes that I feel were there just to boost the season to 26 episodes, with no intention of moving the story forward or adding to character development. Such as: Fallen Angel, Garbageman, The Unconvincing Turtle Titan, Reflections, Junklantis, April's Artifact, Return of the Justice Force, Time Travails, The People's Choice, A Wing and a Prayer, All Hallows Thieves, Trouble with Augie, and Return of Savanti 1 and 2. So, my list is sorta long.

Yours?

Jester 11-08-2011 04:08 PM

The Unconvincing Turtle Titan was decent, because it capped Mikey's superhero obsession well, since he learned he could do just as much good from the shadows. To bad they destroyed that bit of character development by making more Turtle Titan episodes.

CyberCubed 11-08-2011 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 886705)
There are some episodes that I feel were there just to boost the season to 26 episodes, with no intention of moving the story forward or adding to character development. Such as: Fallen Angel, Garbageman, The Unconvincing Turtle Titan, Reflections, Junklantis, April's Artifact, Return of the Justice Force, Time Travails, The People's Choice, A Wing and a Prayer, All Hallows Thieves, Trouble with Augie, and Return of Savanti 1 and 2. So, my list is sorta long.

Yours?

I don't see the problem with those episodes. If anything they're a nice break from all the Shredder episodes and other major events.

It reminds me of the original cartoon. Sometimes the Turtles would just have an adventure that had nothing to do with Shredder/Krang at all. The 2k3 series also had the Turtles fight many one-off characters in isolated events.

Jester 11-08-2011 04:34 PM

In rereading the list, I see you mentioned quite a few comic adaptations...I actually wish we had gotten more of them.

Icebot 11-08-2011 04:43 PM

I'd say The King, the 2 Garbageman episodes, and H.A.T.E.

We actually are doing without Nightmares Recycled.

AleXviD 11-08-2011 05:12 PM

The whole Ninja Tribunal story arc I could have live without. Not only the ancient-demon-that-about-to-awake plot was stupid and way too anime-ish, but they had to name him The Shredder as well. There was cool episodes with little turtles and the end to Nano's arc, of course, but still.

ToTheNines 11-08-2011 05:56 PM

Season 1: I love the whole thing. (Like Jester said, even though the Turtle Titan episode spawned some total garbage, it was a good story on its own)

Season 2: Reflections. City at War. April's Artifact. Return of the Justice Force. (All are just insulting episodes)

Season 3: The Lesson. Reality Check. (Meh, I don't hate either... but they're both kind of stupid)

Season 4: Bad Day. Still Nobody. The Trouble with Augie. (None of these are very creative or executed well at all.)

Fast Forward: Headlock Prime. Clash of the Turtle Titans. Race for Glory. (Stoo. Pid.)

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Originally Posted by AleXviD (Post 886728)
The whole Ninja Tribunal story arc I could have live without. Not only the ancient-demon-that-about-to-awake plot was stupid and way too anime-ish, but they had to name him The Shredder as well. There was cool episodes with little turtles and the end to Nano's arc, of course, but still.

You have to admit, the build up to that season was epic. Too bad it didn't live up to the hype though lol.

TheSkeletonMan939 11-08-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 886734)
You have to admit, the build up to that season was epic. Too bad it didn't live up to the hype though lol.

I have to admit though, the battle in Saki's throne room (Enter the Dragons Part 1) was pretty good, and the battle between the Foot Clan and Saki.

CyberCubed 11-08-2011 06:49 PM

I don't see the point in complaining about what are essentially, "filler episodes," as every show has them.

Some of them aren't as good as the other episodes, but its nice to see the Turtles not constantly battle Shredder or any other major threat in an episode.

I wish they would make more episodes with normal gangsters like the OT did. Shame after City at War I don't believe those gangsters ever reappear.

ToTheNines 11-08-2011 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 886746)
Shame after City at War I don't believe those gangsters ever reappear.

They were ****ing cheesy.

Redeemer 11-08-2011 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 886716)
I don't see the problem with those episodes. If anything they're a nice break from all the Shredder episodes and other major events.

It reminds me of the original cartoon. Sometimes the Turtles would just have an adventure that had nothing to do with Shredder/Krang at all. The 2k3 series also had the Turtles fight many one-off characters in isolated events.

Have 2 agree those eps were a nice break from shredder

AleXviD 11-09-2011 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 886734)
You have to admit, the build up to that season was epic.

Absolutely.

Jester 11-09-2011 01:22 AM

Garbageman episodes...though I'd like to see stuff on Nightmare Recycled.
Toddler Turtle episodes...ESPECIALLY Incredible Shrinking Serling.
Turtle Titan episodes...except the first, ESPECIALLY the last.

Oh, and Cubed, I have an argument for loathing filler episodes, especially in the case of >> and BttS: It most definitely takes away from the story arc. I mean in BttS Splinter's recomposition and April and Casey's wedding should have been 2 separate episodes, not rushed into one sloppy one. And don't get me started on all the loose ends in >>.

pannoni1 11-09-2011 05:47 AM

I'd personally say any episode not based on any comic, with a few exceptions such as Secret Origins since I find it had a unique storyline that worked well, along with the Ninja Tribunal episodes as I find that an interesting, independent arc covering parts of Season 4 and all of Season 5, and there series could have ended right there (after having stuff like Turtles Forever of course). That way you can follow the episodes in the same continuity as the Mirage universe. Anything else might as well be better suited for a more generic, Fred Wolf-type universe.

CyberCubed 11-09-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 886831)

Oh, and Cubed, I have an argument for loathing filler episodes, especially in the case of >> and BttS: It most definitely takes away from the story arc. I mean in BttS Splinter's recomposition and April and Casey's wedding should have been 2 separate episodes, not rushed into one sloppy one. And don't get me started on all the loose ends in >>.

Back to the Sewers really should have been 26 episodes like FF, that way there would have been more time to flesh things out. Shame the budget of the show was shrinking at the time which is why they likely only did 13 eps.

FearlessLeader 11-10-2011 01:09 PM

Personally I could have done without any of the Garbageman or Nano episodes. They were alright for filler in the first season but the fact they kept re-appearing baffled me.

Xav 11-10-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader (Post 886976)
Personally I could have done without any of the Garbageman or Nano episodes. They were alright for filler in the first season but the fact they kept re-appearing baffled me.

Garbageman only appeared twice.

ABrown 11-10-2011 03:51 PM

The show for the most part really didn't have what I would consider "bad episodes". There were some episodes that I wasn't quite as interested in. "The King", the first couple of episodes featuring the Garbageman, the first couple of episodes featuring Nano, "The Peoples Choice", "Sons Of The Silent Age" were all episodes that I found to be a little boring. But pretty much the whole series was a very well produced product.

TheSkeletonMan939 11-10-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 886989)
Garbageman only appeared twice.

And both are somewhat unpopular among the fanbase.

Jester 11-10-2011 05:22 PM

I also give Nano a bit more leeway because to be fair his final episode was great, one of the best of the fillers and the Lost Season.


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