"TMNT Manhattan (arkham) City" dreams
 

Hello all! this is an ongoing dream i wish to see happen but fear it will not come to fruition, considering Nick has the rights and i just don't feel they'd be able to execute it as well with any restraints they might have to impose. plus im sure they have some half a**** movie tie in game in production anyway. That said i have been surprised at how much i like the IDW series so who knows maybe it will...but, lets talk about it instead!

so hopefully some, if not most of you guys are familiar with the batman games both Arkham city/Asylum. if you haven't, its a glorious work of gaming, showcasing the always brilliant batman in an immersive and epic free roaming world, of which it is filled with character extras (both good and bad) and side quests, and just overall beautiful depth that does the whole series justice!

Now, imagine for one second, that you had the same mature, gritty, yet at times nostalgic, beautifully executed game brimming to the top with extra characters, costumes, secrets to be found all throughout Manhattan...that you could navigate through rooftops via Assassins creed type platforming and explore the sewers and the lair some what Skyrim or grand theift auto- esque. I mean the material is there. The outlets and technology is there. We just need someone in the right position with enough passion. With the right amount of money and opportunity....but we can still dream!

So, now what do you think the story would be? is Shredder the main villain or just a side quest?? cameos that would have to make the game? extras to find, plot ideas? game play mechanics? what the overall main story line could be, post your thoughts!! man i'd love to see something like this happen before im too old to play it!!:tgrin:

The Arkham games are the most overrated things ever. Boring and even frustrating to play. The free roaming aspect is an illusion, as well. TMNT doesn't need open world or even dark and gritty, it just needs to be fun.

And no one says "Manhattan City".

Everything said here is wrong. Epic free roaming world that's filled with absolutely asinine side-quests that amount to less than nothing.

The material ISN'T there for any sort of large world with TMNT. It's barely there for a 45 minute side-scrolling brawler. Skyrim...psh, don't even rhyme that games title when talking about Arkham City in terms of depth.

The solution to making good games isn't just "MAKE IT OPEN WORLD A-DUR" and I can't believe people still try to say that sh*t as if it's something brilliant. Open-world Deadpool game?! Oh man! Epic! Open-world Rocky game? F*CK YES! Open-world Cool Spot revival? Just inject the game into my veins please!

It doesn't work with everything. Just because there's a city involved doesn't mean there's automatically this sprawling world full of interesting characters and missions to seek out. ESPECIALLY with Ninja Turtles. A franchise that has spawned all of TWO good stories in it's existence.

Wait... why are you on this forum, again?

thank you!

as for them other guys i dont even know what to say...some brilliant people thats for sure! obviously horrible gamers and considering whats out there, those games are good is all. and aside from that, I WAS ONLY MAKING A REFERENCE TO GO OFF OF YOU FOOLS! what else is out there close to those games? if you want another pointless hack and slash sidescroller then fine there's plenty of them, its a cool idea is all im saying, and it can be done! doesnt have to be as long or so be it pointless as some of the other games side quests. key word was PASSION so if you dont like it get of the thread either way i dont care. be constructive! what is your ideal game then? dont just be a jerk by no means do i just want those games as mentioned above slapped with a TMNT logo on it. and just for the record i never in my life would say "Manhattan city" I LIVE IN NY it was in the title as a reference to the whole thing.

Exactly what I was thinking, and this topic should be in the video game section.

I agree, both games are fantastic and full of atmosphere with only minor flaws, unfortunately the turtles will probably never get games of this quality, but I would love to see a TMNT game like you described.

I've never played any of the Arkham games, mainly because I'm not much of a gamer, but I have played a little bit of GTA: Vice City. Take out the blood, guts, and hookers, and replace the lead "hero"(?) with turtles, and just fill the city with Foot Soldiers and I would play that game forever. The main selling point for me was how 1980's retro that game was, and it felt great. I can see a TMNT game like Vice City being fun to play.

yes sorry i was thinking that but wasn't sure, is there a way to move it?



Yes me too! Basically all i was saying!

Horrible gamer cuz I don't buy into the hype and agree with you? Right.

This just proves you're putting those games on some pedestal without considering the other games out there.

You can be a fan of something and still call it out for it's shortcomings. I don't need to jerk it at the thought of Michelangelo swinging his chucks to be a real fan.

Did you just call me a horrible gamer? Wha?

The Wolverine origins game that came out the same year as Arkham Asylum was way more fun than Asylum was. I don't give a sh*t about fan service really, if the gameplay is fun it's good enough for me. The majority of Batman is uninteresting detective stuff where you're just sauntering about following a trail of blood for 20 minutes.

What is there in the TMNT universe that leads you to believe that it lends itself to the type of game Arkham City is? The characters don't really do anything besides pop up where the bad guys are, fight them and then go away. They don't have an interesting movement system or an interesting set of villains and characters to pull in.

TMNT works better in a level based structure because there's nothing really interesting to be done in their world.

Passion with the guys making the game or no. If the source material isn't there it doesn't matter. Also all of the games you guys are mentioning are all primarily single player games. Last I checked there are 4 turtles. How about some sort of co-op brawler with a combat system that's more than 2 buttons? That sounds infinitely more interesting to me than forcing this limited material into an open-world system just because other super-hero games are doing it.

Geez, talk about your welcome wagon. Stryker, does it ever get old for you, stalking and tearing up a board in which you have little to no passion for the franchise it represents? You're bogus through and through. I haven't read a single post concerning TMNT from you or Cure that has ever been anything but nasty, cynical, and pompous. Lay off.

Anyway, back to LEO's idea, yes, this would be a perfect game! I would love a free-roaming TMNT game on today's biggest platforms. Tons of levels to unlock, goodies to expose, and of course there would be a "comic style all-red" or "multi-colored" bandana option! :lol: There would also be different "sprite" options - early Eastman & Laird style, movie 1 style, and toon style. All could have either all-red or colored bandanas.

What I think an ideal setting would be recreating the NYC-scape using movie 1 locations as its base. Literally rip that vintage late 80s NYC right into the video game - the sewers, city, roof-top, news building, farmhouse (in NH), etc. Give it that gritty feeling.

Blending elements from the first 5 issues of Mirage with movie 1's plot, a "Search for Splinter" with Shredder as the main villain would be the most epic to me. Adding such darkies as Slash and Rat King would be the icing on the cake.

I could go on and on! If only dreams came true.

I'm glad you've been following me?

Thing is, I do like TMNT still. I really want something good out of it but I'm not going to sit here and act like I've been getting that for the past 15 years. Sorry if that bugs you dawg. Nah not really sorry.

Also this is a video game thing and I reaaaaallllly hate the "open-world = Good game" sentiment that people have adopted.

EDIT: Bogus? Really?

I agree. And anyone on this board can vouch for me on that. But it seems unusual that you would be here if you only like a very bare minimum of Turtles' material. I wouldn't become a member of a Star Trek forum if I only happened to like two episodes of the series.

Uh...? I'm actually a supporter of the Nick TMNT and its designs and post every once in a while in the Nick section so...shut up.

you sir are hilarious, just hilarious.


As for a TMNT sandbox game, no, just no.

a splinter cell-ish game would fit better

I can see Stryker's point actually. Granted I don't agree with him that there are only two essential TMNT stories you need to know of, but the general gist of what he's trying to say is TMNT is very niche and isnt popular enough to warrant the Arkham treatment. It also does not have as many essential stories as Batman, Spider-Man, Superman etc. I can go on forever listing multiple "top tens" of those franchises. Switching over to other 80s properties there are more essential, and more memorable, stories told with the Transformers franchise than TMNT in both comic and cartoon form.

TMNT can certaingly fill up a schedule on a kids network and last a long time, but at the same time it has never commanded attention across the board the way many other kids franchises do, this is why the 2003 series didnt light the world on fire in merchandising, this is why the 2007 movie came out to the sound of one hand clapping, why Volume 4 went away quietly and why Laird became likely SO dissapointed that he suffered burn-out and quit on it...it's one thing to say "This is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles", but another to promote it's essentiality in the public consciousness so people SAY "Wow, this is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles"

To quote Calvin and Hobbs

"You can present the material...but you can't make me care"

You say you don't care about fan service, yet you really enjoyed Wolverine origins yes?
Was that game not "fan service"?
Wolverine is an angry brawler, who loves to fight, acts rather than thinks, and that's exactly what the game provided.

Batman is different, he's not a brawler, he's a thinker and strategist.
That's why Batman fans love the Arkham games, because they explore most of his character traits, he IS the dark knight DETECTIVE!
There have been plenty of mindless batman beat'em up games over the years like wolverine origins(which was a bit of fun for about 30 mins), but the developers decided to go a different route and explore what makes the character that is Batman, and they captured it almost perfectly.

Which begs the question, are you a fan of Batman?
Because you don't seem to really know the character if you think Arkham is boring.

I've kinda gone off topic but just had to reply to that comment.

Oh, God. That line of thinking is retarded.

As a game designer it would be a dream job to work on a TMNT game and in my own time I have already started creating one (on paper).

The problem I see with Nick making video games involving the turtles; are for starters they are probably going to be a 1-4 player side-scrolling button masher. Which can't compare to the original arcade games that most people already love. This isn't going to be a bad thing, but it will lack in design and gameplay and be pushed out the door as fast as possible. The other problem is they will be place in games with other Nick Toon characters, such as Spongebob and The fairly odd parents, these will be put out to appeal to the entire Nick Toon demographic and be just as bad.

I don't think TMNT showing up in Nickelodeon all-star games would be all that terrible.

The past couple of Spongebob games have actually been pretty damn fun.