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Jester 03-03-2012 05:37 AM

Death in cartoons.
 
I've been watching the original edited English dub of Dragon Ball Z and have been having a good laugh at the euphemism for death, saying that characters were "sent to another dimension." It is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I know you can't have too much death and destruction in cartoons for kids, but some of the lengths censors go to keep it from them are outlandish.

Thoughts?

ZariusTwo 03-03-2012 06:32 AM

I remember the X-Men animated series substituted the word "death" with "destroy"

plastroncafe 03-03-2012 11:06 AM

This makes me think of Avatar: The Last Airbender.

"Did Jet just die? I don't know, it was really unclear."

It's a line from one of the last episodes of the series, where the characters go to a play about the series up to that point, and where said play does nothing but make fun of a lot of the criticism that the creators received.

It's pretty glorious.

AquaParade 03-03-2012 11:41 AM

"Eliminate them!" "Destroy them!"

Ha, in DBZ they could call it whatever they wanted and it'd still be ridiculous. Dying was basically just hanging out on another planet.

oldmanwinters 03-03-2012 08:21 PM

Dude, I totally love watching the original Ocean dub of DBZ's first season! So many memories...

My favorite bits were when Nappa blew up the "Cargo plane" [and it's cargo was PEOPLE!:lol:] and when the Saiyens crash landed in the middle of a busy city and somebody yelled out "Thank goodness it was a Sunday or those buildings would have had people in them!"

In order to truly enjoy the humor of TeamFourStar's DBZ Abridged, you have to be familiar with the original US edits.

Also, it's ironic that DBZ fans got into a big stink about all the "butchering" and "censoring" in the original dub, yet now the DBZ Kai series pretty much makes editing a priority and fans just keep buying the stuff again!

Jester 03-03-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 919869)
In order to truly enjoy the humor of TeamFourStar's DBZ Abridged, you have to be familiar with the original US edits.

I dunna, I really like Team Four Star and this is my first time watching DragonBall through (I started with the original).

Has T4S do any "other dimension" jokes? I can't remember...

oldmanwinters 03-03-2012 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 919872)
I dunna, I really like Team Four Star and this is my first time watching DragonBall through (I started with the original).

Has T4S do any "other dimension" jokes? I can't remember...

I don't remember, but can any dimension really be any better than the "Home For Infinite Losers"?

HFIL

:P

Guitar_Raph 03-04-2012 08:44 AM

How about these people that passed away on The Simpsons.

Maude Flanders
Bleeding Gums Murphy
Dr. Marvin Monroe
Lionel Hutz

Mr._Mutant_Man 03-04-2012 09:58 AM

I remember being surprised as a kid when Morph died on the X-Men. It was revealed the next season that he got better, but still, it was a surprise to see a superhero die.

I had no knowledge of redshirts at the time. Seeing as he wore the generic X-Men uniform, it's no surprise now.

Type 97 Chi-ha 03-04-2012 10:07 AM

In the 1987 TMNT cartoon itself, the alien in the first "Eye Of Sarnoff" cartoon disappears in a puff of smoke.

In the 1960's Underdog cartoon, Underdog kills the Wicked Witch Of Pickayoon indirectly by breaking apart her magic broom, after which she shrinks and disappears, leaving just a few black scraps behind.

In a Tom and Jerry cartoon depicting revolutionary France, you see the top of a guillotine and its blade start to fall to signify an execution.

Candy Kappa 03-04-2012 02:17 PM

Thundercats 2011 have a high death toll, got a bit surprised about that

XERO 03-04-2012 02:26 PM

Kenny in South Park.

Guitar_Raph 03-04-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha (Post 920022)
In the 1960's Underdog cartoon, Underdog kills the Wicked Witch Of Pickayoon indirectly by breaking apart her magic broom, after which she shrinks and disappears, leaving just a few black scraps behind.

I remember that episode. A;; te citizens of Pickayoon always whispered! Maybe Brick Heck should've been the mayor (*mayor*).

Sage Ninja 03-04-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha (Post 920022)
In a Tom and Jerry cartoon depicting revolutionary France, you see the top of a guillotine and its blade start to fall to signify an execution.

I remember that actually disturbing me as a little kid. Especially Jerry's young mouse nephew cheerfully saying "goodbye, pussycat" after watching it happen and continuing on his merry way with his stolen food. I guess it was how blase Jerry and the kid was about it. Especially since it was made clear in the episode that Tom would be executed for

I personally hate baby words for "death and dying." They always come out awkward and often sound dumb. Some eightes cartoons got away with saying the real words.

"Drink blazing eletric death toitles!"

oldmanwinters 03-04-2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja (Post 920196)
"Drink blazing eletric death toitles!"

Good stuff!

Ninjinister 03-04-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph (Post 919987)
Dr. Marvin Monroe


He was just sick.

BubblyShell22 03-04-2012 08:53 PM

Heck, in the 2K3 TMNT, they always substituted words for death. Like when Casey died in "Bad Day" and they said he'd been "wasted."

Zany Orange Dude 03-04-2012 08:56 PM

I remember in Sonic X a woman name Molly gets killed fighting, but in the 4kids dub they made her run away like a coward. Now that show is not a masterpiece in any language, but really? You take a brave character and make her run away?

I don't know what makes mentioning death in cartoons so evil? It's not like it is going to scar kids for the rest of their lives as long as they don't go into detail about how someone died?

Whenever a villain in a cartoon actually tells the hero they are going to kill them, I actually get happy because they used that word instead of "destroy." I always think back to the pilot episode of Darkwing Duck when the bad guys say die and dead multiple times!

Abnormal Freak 03-04-2012 08:58 PM

Been watching Exosquad lately and am totally delighted that the studios never made the creators mask the horrors of war. People die left and right in every episode, sometimes even onscreen, and all sorts of horrible stuff goes on, like transports of human prisoners being sent into the sun. The other more adult cartoons from the early '90s, like Batman and X-Men, rarely were allowed to get away with death.

oldmanwinters 03-04-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak (Post 920267)
The other more adult cartoons from the early '90s, like Batman and X-Men, rarely were allowed to get away with death.

They could have it so long as they didn't show it!
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