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TurtleMaster4 03-31-2012 04:00 PM

New show to be as popular as the 80's cartoon?
 
Hey guys, i was thinking about some thing recently, it is the new turtle show. Ok you know how the 80's show brang in all kinds of fans and all, well the question is, will this new Nick show do the same.

I was introduced to the turtles in the fox box era, if you may, and to me it didn't seem like that good of an era. (by good era i mean the fans it brought in, don't worry, i loved the show) Heres my theory on why, not many people knew about it, it was on the Saturday morning cartoons, not on some big name net work like Disney, cartoon network, or even........ Nickelodeon. And it seem like most of the fans of the older series just leave the turtles beind them once they reach middle school, because it's "little kid stuff" which we all know to be untrue, especially in the comics!

Now nickelodeon is a pretty big channel for kids, and could bring in more people to the turtles, a younger generation, and maybe even some teens like my self! But considering most of the people now days jump towards more gritty stuff now days, (well from my perspective at least) will they watch the turtles?

Me personally, i am in high hopes for these new turtles, and if the show and movie goes good, i could see a whole new generation of turtle fans come into play.

So i guess that leaves me back to the question, will the new turtles be as popular as the 80's turtles, yes or no, and why.

Sorry for the ranting dudes! thanx :twink:

CyberCubed 03-31-2012 04:07 PM

The 2k3 series aired on an obscure Saturday morning block that kids didn't watch. That and it came out when Pokemon and Yu-GI-oh we're still huge crazes.

The show brought in some new fans but it couldn't compete against other fads at the time.

ToTheNines 03-31-2012 04:21 PM

I have high hopes and high expectations for this show, I have a lot of faith in the people behind it, and I expect it to be on television for a good while. Bu to answer the question: Don't make me laugh!

No cartoon will be that huge again. Kids these days are mostly in to video games. If they don't have a copy of Call of Duty by 9, they're not cool.

MikeandRaph87 03-31-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 930954)
The 2k3 series aired on an obscure Saturday morning block that kids didn't watch. That and it came out when Pokemon and Yu-GI-oh we're still huge crazes.

The show brought in some new fans but it couldn't compete against other fads at the time.

I don't know about that ,CC. I was apart of all three crazes in the '90s' and Pok'emon's popularity craze was 1999-2002. By the time Johto ended the show's popular standing had dropped to just another cartoon and overall property. TMNT debuted just several months before that. I don't remember Yu-Gi-oh! being that big here in the United States but just mildly popular. Its just the fact that the TMNT property is popular just it will not be as popular as it was during the run of the original cartoon. It will expereince popularity spikes as time goes on and I believe it did from 2003 through 2005. Though others may differ on that assumption.

gobo 03-31-2012 04:41 PM

99.8% of me says "no". The other .2% still believes in magic.

CyberCubed 03-31-2012 04:42 PM

Pokemon and YuGiOh were the highest rated kid shows at the time well into 2005. Pokemon didn't truly lose ratings till the voice cast changed and it moved to Cartoon Network.

I remember wishing TMNT was on KidsWb at the time because I knew simply by airing on that block it would have been a bigger hit than on the FoxBox.

CrazySquirrel 03-31-2012 04:42 PM

I really doubt it. Let's put it this way. Nicks biggest show I can remember recently was Spongebob. You know how much Spongebob merch, games, toys etc there were a few years ago? It wasn't even remotely close to how crazy turtles were in the 80's.

Hey they might become as big as Spongebob though.

Jester 03-31-2012 04:53 PM

I've given this some thought, and I'm beginning to think we'll never know for sure. I mean, many of us were just kids when Turtle Mania was at its height, and now we are adults and see it from a different perspective. I don't know if we'll really know if this Turtle Mania will equal the original Turtle Mania because of the drastic perspective change. We were the target demographic in the 90's...now we aren't so much. Sad but true.

Ecto Jedi 03-31-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 930969)
I've given this some thought, and I'm beginning to think we'll never know for sure. I mean, many of us were just kids when Turtle Mania was at its height, and now we are adults and see it from a different perspective. I don't know if we'll really know if this Turtle Mania will equal the original Turtle Mania because of the drastic perspective change. We were the target demographic in the 90's...now we aren't so much. Sad but true.

This has a lot to do with it. But by all accounts, the Turtle craze in the early '90s was MASSIVE. We've all heard it. I can't attest to the numbers, because I really don't know any. All I know is that I had TMNT underwear, toothbrushes, and about a zillion different action figures.

So, yeah. From a numbers perspective? If what I've heard about the original craze is correct and not just nostalgia-beating? Then no. That's not to say there's anything inherently wrong about the new show; just that the original was a f*cking worldwide phenomenon.

But again, I don't know the numbers. Anyone have any figures on merchandise sales, toy sales, and the like?

Oculus Orbus 03-31-2012 05:01 PM

I don't think it will. I wish, but it was so crazy back in the days, I just don't think it'll get that big this time around. Still, I think this could actually be huge.

shezcrafti 03-31-2012 05:26 PM

Do I think lightning will essentially strike twice? No. But it's possible.

A reboot of any property will always have the added challenge of living up to unreasonably high expectations from existing fans, which is already a factor working against the new show if the bitching/moaning in these threads are any indication. For Nick's TMNT to reach the same levels of hysteria as the original, it has to be a hit with young kids new to TMNT.

One thing I can easily envision is Nick's TMNT bringing a lot more females to the fanbase. Making April the same age as the Turtles was a brilliant move marketing-wise, imo.

I'm thrilled that she's going to be a useful part of the team and not just a Mary Sue archetype or older woman that kids won't really relate to. (Don't get me wrong, I love April as a character in all iterations of TMNT, but I'm excited by what Nick is doing with her character.) If I were a young girl I'd be ecstatic to have that kind of heroine.

TurtleMaster4 03-31-2012 06:02 PM

i'm pretty sure it won't be as big as the 80's turtles, i just wan't it to be big, all i'm concerned about is if it will bring new generations of fans, while keeping old ones! All in all, i can't wait for the show!

TheSkeletonMan939 03-31-2012 07:11 PM

Nickelodeon is good at licensing their shows to merchandise from stickers to toothbrushes to Beanie Babies. Add in the factor of it possibly being a good show and you just might have a popular TMNT series.

Ecto Jedi 03-31-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by shezcrafti (Post 930978)
A reboot of any property will always have the added challenge of living up to unreasonably high expectations from existing fans, which is already a factor working against the new show if the bitching/moaning in these threads are any indication.

It's even more apparent on the TMNT Facebook page. Man, the hate by self-righteous pseudo-fans on there really is something to behold.

Drose18 03-31-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 930954)
The 2k3 series aired on an obscure Saturday morning block that kids didn't watch. That and it came out when Pokemon and Yu-GI-oh we're still huge crazes.

The show brought in some new fans but it couldn't compete against other fads at the time.

Actually a lot of my friends watched it when we were 5 ish

CyberCubed 03-31-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi (Post 930998)
It's even more apparent on the TMNT Facebook page. Man, the hate by self-righteous pseudo-fans on there really is something to behold.

Which is ironic because none of those people are actually real Turtle fans. I bet they didn't even buy the original cartoon on DVD.

Master Splinter 03-31-2012 07:58 PM

No, but only because kids have so many more options these days. I can imagine it will be popular, probably more so than the 4kids series, but not as much as Freddy's.

-ms

CyberCubed 03-31-2012 11:07 PM

The show should last at least 5-7 years. I am hoping we hit close to 200 episodes with this series before it ends.

Assuming that we get 7 seasons at 26 episodes each, we could reach it. A damn shame the 4kids series only gave us 13-eps for Seasons 5 and 7, because otherwise the 4kids show would have almost reached 200 eps as well.

Jester 03-31-2012 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 931079)
The show should last at least 5-7 years. I am hoping we hit close to 200 episodes with this series before it ends.

Assuming that we get 7 seasons at 26 episodes each, we could reach it. A damn shame the 4kids series only gave us 13-eps for Seasons 5 and 7, because otherwise the 4kids show would have almost reached 200 eps as well.

Oh...I know...you're really...

Cure 04-01-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 931002)
Which is ironic because none of those people are actually real Turtle fans. I bet they didn't even buy the original cartoon on DVD.

This whole real fan thing is super sickening.


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