Which Shredder is better: 03 or 87.
 

My personal vote goes to 03. He's just WAY more badass on EVERY level. His voice is just 100% evil.

u mean 2k3 shredder aka utrom shredder?

I'm kind partial to the FW (90's) Shredder, BUT he has to be paired with Krang. What made the Fred Wolf villains fun was their dynamic together. The "old married couple" vibe they had was fun.

The 2k3 Shredder for sure. He was awesome.

I was disappointed with Shredder being an utrom. It made it feel like it was not really Shredder but some subconcious effort to wrap Shredder and Krang into the same character. I loved Shredder since a little kid and still to this day as my favorite villain because of the '87 cartoon. Shredder is awesome on his own but Krang,Bebop, and Rockstedy make it even better even if he is more badass on his own.

Utrom shred was more b a no doubt about it. But dang there's just something about ot shredder that gets my nod over ch'rell. I'm sure it's just cus I'm old though and grew up with ot shredder.

Pretty sure Turtles Forever answered this question.

I personally like OT Shredder over 03 Shredder. Not that he's a better VILLAIN, just a more entertaining CHARACTER. (In my ever-so-humble opinion. :tlol: )

Definitely this.

As awesome as the 2k3 Shredder was in that first season, he sorta became more of a nuisance than an intimidating threat by Season 2... even before he was outed as an Utrom criminal. In his first appearance, all four 4 get owned by him and only a desperate strategy by Splinter could save the day. But by Secret Origins part 3, they pretty much have the guy's number. He would never again pose a threat in head-to-head battles with the turtles in his normal armor. He needed severe upgrades just to have a fighting chance in battle, whether it was humongous exo-suits or Krang's matter expansion technology.

And yet, Ch'rell still maintained that same ol' "I am the most powerful being in the universe" attitude that he had in his first appearance. It just became more pathetic than cool.

So, yeah, I definitely prefer the personality depth seen in James Avery's version of the Shredder. He could be witty, despicably, or a buffoon, depending on whatever the plot called for.

Agreed. OT Shredder is by far my favorite version of the character. :)

:D I like the 4Kids Shredder... he was more of a badass than the OT Shredder. Ch'rell kicked OT Shredder's ass in his utrom form. that's saying a lot.

Bebop and Rocksteady kicked Ch'rell's ass though...which says something else a lot...

Shredder & Krang
 

2003 Shredder rocked during season 1-early season 2, before the "Secret Origions" story destroyed it all. What would be wrong with using both Shredder and Krang/Dimension X/Technodrome in a TMNT universe, but having both on their own sides. This would allow.

*Episodes dealing with ninjutsu/martial arts using Shredder as enemy, and focusing on Leonardo
*Episodes dealing with science fiction using Krang as enemy, and focusing on Donatello

In the 1987 show Shredder rocks like when he takes down the TMNT in the "Incredible Shrinking Turtles" after a pure game, no guns or Dimension X laser guns. Just martial arts.

OT Shredder all the way!

Fred Wolf Shredder is a better fleshed out villain, and He'd probably do the same things as Ch'rell did, had he have the same technology and opportunity.

Had the entire original cartoon been in the "red sky" style, I would definitely say the Shredder from that series. But since the bulk of his appearances was during the comedy days, I'm gonna go with the Shredder from the 2003 cartoon.

Fred Wolf Shredder - he had a better voice, a cooler costume, and uttered that immortal line "Tonight I dine on... Turtle Soup!!" And just better dialogue overall.

Yeah he turned into kind of a parody of himself pretty quickly. But that voice, man.

Plus 2k3 Shredder was way too convoluted. He was cool at first, but then he was an Utrom? And then there was that Tengu Shredder, whatever that was? Too much.

2003 Shredder was much more dangerous than 1987 Shredder.

"I. Never. Bluff."