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Cowabunga Carl 09-22-2012 10:15 PM

Bebop and Rocksteady, what happened to the animals?
 
I was watching the Fred Wolf show and started thinking about the fact that Bebop and Rocksteady were human before they mutated. Robots took the rhino and warthog from the zoo and then we see the animals together with the thugs. Yet once they are mutated the animals are gone.

So what happened to the animals? Did they combine with them or did Shredder just put the animals back?

Drose18 09-22-2012 10:17 PM

I sorta implied that they took DNA from the animals and put it in the mutagen then used it on rocksteady and bebop. I gotta watch it again... Tomorrow.

Jester 09-22-2012 10:22 PM

Nope, Donnie, the animals were on hand when Bebop and Rocksteady were mutated. I figure once Bebop and Rocksteady "came in contact" with them, Shredder either "disposed" of them or perhaps kept them in the Technodrome for future mutants....maybe.

CyberCubed 09-22-2012 10:31 PM

The actual animals were probably just sent back to the zoo to roam around.

hi_polymer 09-22-2012 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl (Post 1000352)
Did they combine with them

Why would they combine with them? Did you actually pay attention to the turtles' origin story?

pannoni1 09-22-2012 10:51 PM

Once an animal (or any other living thing for that matter) mutates with another lifeform, the assumption is that both lifeforms have united with each other. There aren't four pet Turtles, a rat, a snapping turtle, a wolf, a lizard, a fly, or anything else that separates.

Jester 09-22-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1000369)
Once an animal (or any other living thing for that matter) mutates with another lifeform, the assumption is that both lifeforms have united with each other. There aren't four pet Turtles, a rat, a snapping turtle, a wolf, a lizard, a fly, or anything else that separates.

If that was the case, the Turtles would have united with Yoshi.
Try again.

Cowabunga Carl 09-22-2012 10:57 PM

It is something to think about. I mean with the idea that IDW might start going human to animal I wonder if they will address this. I mean it is a little point but something that is kind of fun to think about.

CyberCubed 09-22-2012 11:11 PM

The animals did not merge into human bebop/rocksteady

Cowabunga Carl 09-22-2012 11:59 PM

We should all just ask Cubed every question for answers, that way we wouldn't need threads. I mean it is awesome that we have someone with so much knowledge and inside information on the board. :trolleye::tgrumble:

Jester 09-23-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl (Post 1000395)
We should all just ask Cubed every question for answers, that way we wouldn't need threads. I mean it is awesome that we have someone with so much knowledge and inside information on the board. :trolleye::tgrumble:

I am Jester, and I approve this message. :D

zkarlette 09-23-2012 12:38 AM

In the turtles forever movie Hun mutates into a turtle by coming in contact with them and the mutagen but no one "disappeared".:-? Now I'm confused..

cryan 09-23-2012 06:09 AM

Ok,you guys are putting way too much brain power on this.I am reminded by the line in the Mystery Science 3000 theme song"just say to yourself it's just a show and should really just relax".

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 09-23-2012 07:08 AM

Technodrome or Zoo
 
Just kept in Technodrome or, what I suppose, sent back too zoo.

Cowabunga Carl 09-23-2012 08:43 AM

Swedenfan that's kind of what I was thinking. It is interesting though that they go through the procedure of explaining how animals to mutant works, but never really went into how human to mutant works. Or at least if they did I must have blinked and missed it.

Jephael 09-23-2012 08:52 AM

According to their discussion in #25 of the Archie comics Bebop and Rocksteady did infact merge with their animal counterparts the same way Baxter Stockman merged with the fly. It's what they call a cross-mutation.

chrisdude 09-23-2012 10:12 AM

Technodrom garbage chute.

This merging talk is giving me the creeps. You mutate halfway into whatever you were last in contact with.

I'll pop in the DVD, anyway, since it's sitting right here.

chrisdude 09-23-2012 10:33 AM

Looks like this is the last you see of them.



Shredder opens the canister, and the scene cuts. Next time you see Bebop and Rocksteady, they're mutants.

So yeah, garbage chute.

hi_polymer 09-23-2012 11:01 AM

I don't understand the confusion here. It was fairly straightforward that a human becomes mutated into the animal that he/she last came in contact with. With Yoshi it was a rat, with Bebop and Rocksteady most likely Shredder forced them to come in contact with the animals.

Cowabunga Carl 09-23-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1000503)
According to their discussion in #25 of the Archie comics Bebop and Rocksteady did infact merge with their animal counterparts the same way Baxter Stockman merged with the fly. It's what they call a cross-mutation.

That was one of the other reasons I started thinking about this. As stated the rules for animal to mutant are quite clear, however the rules from human to mutant are more murky.

Splinter wasn't with the rats last though, he was with the turtles cleaning them. So the rule saying last animal in contact with should have changed him into another Turtle.


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