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CyberCubed 11-07-2012 02:46 PM

The Ninja Sword of Nowhere
 
Anyone else love this episode? It had fantastic animation, Shredder using an alien sword to cut portals to a dimensional limbo, and Splinter being trapped in the void.

It had some really funny moments too, such as Donatello trying to hit some squash with his Bo to hit Shredder with and it just explodes in his face. :lol: This is also the episode with Krang watching John and Marsha.

Unfortunately this episode was tainted by Raphael's horrible alternate voice actor, but thankfully he didn't have many lines in this one so it was easy to ignore.

Also had a nice climax in the junkyard where the Turtles try to stop Shredder and the Foot, then alien tourists come down and swipe the sword with the Turtles going after them.

oldmanwinters 11-07-2012 02:53 PM

It's certainly marred by the very noticeable replacement Raphael VA, but I have always enjoyed this episode immensely.

CyberCubed 11-07-2012 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1019553)
It's certainly marred by the very noticeable replacement Raphael VA, but I have always enjoyed this episode immensely.

Thank goodness it wasn't a heavy Raph episode. I think he only has like 8 lines throughout the entire episode.

Jephael 11-07-2012 02:55 PM

Raphael's substitute voice in this episode never bothered me near as much as that ending with the aliens that just happened to be going through the same dimensional limbo Splinter was stuck in. Talk about anti-climatic.

CyberCubed 11-07-2012 02:56 PM

I always saw them as transdimensional beings with the same ability to cut through dimensions that the sword did. They said in the episode the metal of the sword was left behind on Earth 1000's of years ago, it might have been from the same aliens.

They did say they would return in the year 2728 after all. :lol:

oldmanwinters 11-07-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1019555)
Raphael's substitute voice in this episode never bothered me near as much as that ending with the aliens that just happened to be going through the same dimensional limbo Splinter was stuck in. Talk about anti-climatic.

Oh, coincidences like that were par for the course of the FW series!

MikeandRaph87 11-07-2012 07:45 PM

There is the somewhat silly Attack of The 20 Foot Irma,but I think of this one as a turning point to a more humorous series for awhile. It was an odd yet interesting plot and I was disappointed when the plot come to a head an alien antique dealer took the sword just as Splinter was rescued. It was a cheap ploy that was not hilarious random like the Elvis impersonating aliens and messed up an epic in to a great sci-fiNninjsu story with a serious threat.

CyberCubed 11-07-2012 08:20 PM

One thing I loved about eps like this is Shredder was shown to be a threat.

In too many other Season 3 episodes like, "Turtles Turtles Everywhere" and "The Four Musketurtles" Shredder is basically defeated by simply Bebop and Rocksteady falling on top of him.

Its really interesting to note that depending on who wrote which episode that Shredder was either more than a match for the Turtles or some bumbling baffoon in others.

Lisardo 11-07-2012 10:31 PM

I agree with all of the above. The artwork in this ep was done very well (looked like the same artists/animation studio that did "Metalhead" and "The Fifth Turtle"). I didn't mind Raph's replacement VA too much. Just wish he sounded more like Rob Paulsen. The humor was funny at times and I agree the John/Marsha soap Krang was watching and his reaction to it, was priceless! Lastly I liked the battle in the limbo between Splinter and Shredder...."I have defeated you before Shredder. I can beat you 'nowhere' as well!"

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-08-2012 05:59 AM

Krang
 
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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1019556)
I always saw them as transdimensional beings with the same ability to cut through dimensions that the sword did. They said in the episode the metal of the sword was left behind on Earth 1000's of years ago, it might have been from the same aliens.

They did say they would return in the year 2728 after all. :lol:

As Krang said early in the episode, the alien fragment that the sword was made of was used for interdimensional travel by spacecraft within microseconds, so the alien yuppies seemed to have such a fragment piece hooked up to their spacecraft's machine engines.

ssjup81 11-10-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1019554)
Thank goodness it wasn't a heavy Raph episode. I think he only has like 8 lines throughout the entire episode.

Eight lines too many. >_<

pannoni1 11-12-2012 06:14 AM

This was a good opener to the Volume 4 set of DVD episodes. The Turtles actually struggle in battle against Bebop and Rocksteady with Shredder unlike most times in this series before the sword gets stolen. The climax was good, though it roughly follows Enter: The Fly's formula once all the characters arrive at the junkyard, except this time we do get to peek into this dimension- perhaps this is where Baxter: The Fly was stranded before he made his first return?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-17-2012 04:09 PM

Baxter Stockman
 
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Originally Posted by pannoni1 (Post 1021020)
This was a good opener to the Volume 4 set of DVD episodes. The Turtles actually struggle in battle against Bebop and Rocksteady with Shredder unlike most times in this series before the sword gets stolen. The climax was good, though it roughly follows Enter: The Fly's formula once all the characters arrive at the junkyard, except this time we do get to peek into this dimension- perhaps this is where Baxter: The Fly was stranded before he made his first return?

Baxter Stockman was sent some minutes into the future the first time ("Enter: the Fly").

MikeandRaph87 11-17-2012 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982 (Post 1023025)
Baxter Stockman was sent some minutes into the future the first time ("Enter: the Fly").

No,Baxter was sent a microsecond forward in time so he would be out of sync with the physical plane. It took a lightning strike to reverse his situation. After this episode he was free to roam.Then he was stuck in Dimension X each time until Revenge of the Fly at which time he was stuck in dimensional limbo for forevermore as far as we know.

Jephael 11-19-2012 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1023029)
No,Baxter was sent a microsecond forward in time so he would be out of sync with the physical plane. It took a lightning strike to reverse his situation. After this episode he was free to roam.Then he was stuck in Dimension X each time until Revenge of the Fly at which time he was stuck in dimensional limbo for forevermore as far as we know.

He only went to Dimension X that one time as a human and came back to Earth a fly. All those other times he got stuck in dimensional limbos.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 11-24-2012 07:32 AM

Son of Return of the Fly
 
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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1023603)
He only went to Dimension X that one time as a human and came back to Earth a fly. All those other times he got stuck in dimensional limbos.

Isn't he in Dimension X early in "Son of Return of the Fly".

MikeandRaph87 11-24-2012 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982 (Post 1025157)
Isn't he in Dimension X early in "Son of Return of the Fly".

Yeah,that was what I was trying to point out.Enter:The Fly ends with him a microsecond forward in tine out of phase with the rest of reality.Return of The Fly ends with him loose underground NYC. Bye,bye Fly ends with Baxter stuck in an alien spider's web within Dimension X after Z's centeries old ship falls apart. Then he emerges in Landlord of The Flies(anamoly in his character continuity) out of Dimension X without explaination and Z. He returns from an unknown Dimension in Revenge of The Fly. He ends that episode trapped in a dimensional limbo and that version of Baxter Stockman is not given a proper ending and ends the character's appears there.

CyberCubed 11-25-2012 10:40 PM

Baxter Stockman trapped in limbo is a fitting ending. He was tragic character, no need to give him a happy ending.

shreddinghead 01-16-2013 11:35 PM

This episode was infact great, despite Raphs alternative VA that is. Shredder is having the upperhand fighting the turtles, for once. And i love how Krang is showing a sympathetic side on the show for the first time, crying when watching his daily portion of soup operas. :lol:

Pterobat 01-16-2013 11:58 PM

Ah, this was a fun episode. I liked the odd visuals, and seeing Splinter fight is always good. That, and I remember this episode a lot from when I was a child.

And Baxter isn't a tragic character. He's just stupid. :P

(Keep in mind, going by the very nitpicky definition of "tragedy" that I absorbed by being a Word Nerd)


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