What do you guys think of the human villains(non-shredder related)?
 

I'm talking about the gangsters, mad scientists, and greedy rich men who tried to take on the turtles and failed. It's nice they gave Shredder and Krang a break and allowed the non-super villains run the show.

edit - it kinda shows you that shredder and Krang are not the only villains in the turtleverse.

I always found the mad scientists fascinating, though after a little while it got repetitive! They always had some beef with society for whatever reason, like the dude who was too short to be in the navy, so he created a minitaurizing ray to shrink boats.

The Rat King is my second favorite villain after The Shredder. He was crazy and mysterious with a dark edge. I hope to see something close to the '87 cartoon in the future. He shined the best there. It just lacked an origin and the only time we got one was a bizarre belated one in Mirage Comics. A character that can be great if used well and I hope reflects the '87 cartoon opposed to a clone or a zombie.

Big Louie,I have little interest in mob bosses and mad scientist,but Big Louie was a fun and threatening Godfather sterotype I always though could have been expanded on in a more serious manner if he would appear elsewhere. A character with a lot of untapped potential. I hae a couple ideas of my own that involve him,but I hope he is used again.

Big Louie, Pinky Mcfingers and Don Turtelli are some of the best characters of the show. I loved them everytime they appeared.

I also liked Baxter when he was human too, he was a bit more unique than black Baxter in all other incarnations.

Rat King, Lotus Blossom, and Shreeka (I know she's an alien, but she looks human) were also great.

I liked Alex Winter (Megavolt) from State of Shock and his ninjas. It was almost like having Shredder and human foot soldiers. The Rat King was also an interesting villain.

The Swatter was like David Wise making fun of anime/comic book nerds.

I find it humorous that the gangsters and mad scientists were voiced by the turtle crew lol. You would hear Peter Renaday, Clam Clarke, Rob Paulson, and even Barry Gordon's voices whenever they speak. I guess Wolf wanted to save some money :lol:

Anyone remember "Mad Dog", the crook who used a dog-theme gimmick to commit crimes?

Huh, I didn't think that was an option. I thought this thread was about the non-regular mad scientists, and human Baxter was a regular for a while.

Well, then, of course I like 'im. :P

You can take or leave the rest of the mad scientists and gangsters. It's usually very hard for me to get attached to extremely minor characters, though there are exceptions in other fandoms.

Barney Stockman was fun, though. He's a lazy idea which lazy jokes are told with, but his personality is different from Baxter, which is actually the funniest part.

I dunno, some of my favorite characters in the show were ones who only ever appeared in 1 episode, like Shredder's mother.

That being said I enjoyed Shredder's Mother and his brother too.

I think Hun and Bishop where pretty cool.

Hey, I said "for me". :P

Its always interesting to me that they created more human villains than mutant villains in the OT.

I also liked Wally Airhead.

You can always create fanfiction about it. I saw Jephael using him in a fanfic ("Reporters Never Quit) on his fansite. I really like the mob. Mutants and aliens shall also be around, but I prefer most, both friends and enemies, of the TMNT to be ordinary humans from Earth. Also think of Irma, Zack, Buffy Shellhammer, Kevin Tyler and Lotus Blossom they probably befriended more humans than mutants too.

If TMNT was sent in 1920's-1930's Chicago, he would probably been more used more often. :)

Human villains gan go a lot further to boosting the Turtles' reputation among the general public than the mutants, since they can provide the most evidence that the Turtles are heroes, and April never got criticized by Channel 6 for reporting the Turtles defeating human villains. My favorite is probably Don Turtelli just because he can be both funny and angry/stubborn, and the feather encounter still remains one of the most memorable moments of the OT.

Thanks for killing off a prejudice. The most overused plot was Krang and Shredder breaking into power stations, required to do so when the Technodrome needed fuel, not "Mutant of the Day/Week".

Apart from the Rat King, a fantastic villain, I found all the other assorted gangsters and mad scientists terribly lame. I wish they had given room for the other mutants and characters from the toy line and Archie comics in stead of wasting episodes that way.

Villians like Don Turtelli or Swatter gave me the same feeling when I was watching Masters Of The Universe and there was no Skeletor in the episode. No way!

They're not intended to have the same feeling.

other than RatKing and Baxter and possiable one or two other ones I am forgetting to mention I thought most of the other villians stunk or were missed opertunities. **cough**Slash**cough**

I would have liked to see more of Tokka and Razar, too bad they only had one appearance.

Which toys did you want to have an episode?

There were good, although Shredder and Krang tried to get rid of them in Adventures in Turtle Sitting.