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Andrew NDB 02-14-2013 04:01 PM
Have the Nick TMNT actually accomplished anything?
 
I was thinking about this the other day. Seems like every bad guy and mutant they've ever encountered is still very much on the loose and at large. Perhaps the Nick Turtles should cut their losses and just stay in the sewer from now on?

Cure 02-14-2013 04:06 PM
Then there'd be no show, dummy.

Irishmile 02-14-2013 04:07 PM
Sure they have not captured any baddies.. But

They saved April
Stopped a Mutagen bomb
Saved people from becoming plant food
Saved Murakami
Stopped rats from taking over the city
stopped mousers from stealing things

and ate pizza.

Gyt Kaliba 02-14-2013 04:09 PM
That and I'd argue that they've actually tried pretty hard to put down Snakeweed for good, but that guy's apparently pretty hard to kill. Even breaking him into a thousand pieces didn't work.

I mean, they could always try stabbing that exposed heart but...kid's show. Can't realistically expect that level of violence in it (I've honestly been pretty pleasantly surprised by how violent they have gotten with that character).

snake 02-14-2013 04:09 PM
Aren't they trying to build up to a league of villians kind of thing, if thats the case it's more fitting to have villians escape.

CyberCubed 02-14-2013 04:13 PM
They stopped the Worldwide Genome project, stopped a mutagen bomb, and saved April from the Kraang.

But...they're kids. Splinter is still teaching them and they have a lot to learn. This is the youngest they've even been portrayed after all.

plastroncafe 02-14-2013 04:17 PM
Aren't you usually the one who's against the idea of the Turtles being super heroes, Andrew?

Jephael 02-14-2013 04:20 PM
This is why I prefer more mainstream super heroes like Superman or Spider-Man. They can be seen by the public and actually manage to put the badguys in jail, which happened a little back in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. But on this show they're always going up against mutants and aliens but the public is always left in the dark.

Andrew NDB 02-14-2013 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1058539)
Aren't you usually the one who's against the idea of the Turtles being super heroes, Andrew?
Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.

gobo 02-14-2013 04:22 PM
I think what you're trying to get at is that the status quo is nearly identical in every ep.

Gyt Kaliba 02-14-2013 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1058545)
Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.
Funny, since they're doing a pretty good job of keeping in the shadows away from prying eyes, and are practicing actual (apparently anyway) martial arts katas in their training all the time...but then again, I'm getting the feeling you just wanted to gripe about the show here anyway.

CyberCubed 02-14-2013 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1058543)
This is why I prefer more mainstream super heroes like Superman or Spider-Man. They can be seen by the public and actually manage to put the badguys in jail, which happened a little back in the original Ninja Turtles cartoon. But on this show they're always going up against mutants and aliens but the public is always left in the dark.
That's actually why I prefer TMNT. Even in the OT they would hide and run as soon as the cops came and didn't want to be recognized by the general public.

Donatello19 02-14-2013 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1058545)
Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.
Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas? If you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.

plastroncafe 02-14-2013 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1058545)
Well, they're certainly not ninjas in the Nick show, so they might as well be something.
Aww muffin. How are those sour grapes of yours tasting?

snake 02-14-2013 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1058557)
Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas? If you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.
Exactly, they didn't care about not being seen, and didn't Leonardo go to a gym or fitness center in one episode:lol:

Andrew NDB 02-14-2013 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Donatello19 (Post 1058557)
Are you kidding me? How are they not ninjas?
They pull their punches. "Non-killing ninjas" is an oxymoron. It's fine because it's a children's show and the entertainment factor as such is high... but let's call a spade a spade.

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if you want to see turtles that aren't ninjas, go watch the OT.
Why would I want to go and do something horrible like that?

NinjaMan 02-14-2013 05:07 PM
Andrew I asked this as an honest question. What would you do if in charge? This a cartoon for kids. They can't kill everything they fight or else there would be no show. So tell me, what would you do to a kids show on a kids channel?

CyberCubed 02-14-2013 05:08 PM
I believe this argument is more suited for the IDW turtles. They haven't accomplished much either and don't kill when they should.

At least the cartoons have the, "it's for kids" excuse.

Andrew NDB 02-14-2013 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NinjaMan (Post 1058577)
Andrew I asked this as an honest question. What would you do if in charge? This a cartoon for kids. They can't kill everything they fight or else there would be no show. So tell me, what would you do to a kids show on a kids channel?
My point is that every single threat they've encountered is still out there -- they resolve nothing. If somehow a threat was captured, or imprisoned, or their mutation reversed or something... but every time with everything from "Snakeweed" all the way to "Justin," it goes down exactly the same way: big fight, the Turtles win, and the bad guy escapes into the shadows.

Why even bother then, right?

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1058578)
I believe this argument is more suited for the IDW turtles. They haven't accomplished much either and don't kill when they should.

At least the cartoons have the, "it's for kids" excuse.
Hm... you do have a point there.

Donatello19 02-14-2013 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1058581)
My point is that every single threat they've encountered is still out there -- they resolve nothing. If somehow a threat was captured, or imprisoned, or their mutation reversed or something... but every time with everything from "Snakeweed" all the way to "Justin," it goes down exactly the same way: big fight, the Turtles win, and the bad guy escapes into the shadows.

Why even bother then, right?



Hm... you do have a point there.
Well what exactly do you expect them to do about it?


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