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miru 03-30-2013 09:23 AM

Darkest TMNT incarnation?
 
I'd say Mirage by far.

CyberCubed 03-30-2013 09:28 AM

None of them are really dark. Even the darkest Mirage issues are more about psychological themes than actual violence.

snake 03-30-2013 09:36 AM

Mirage, mostly because of all the blood.

RaphAndDonnie 03-30-2013 10:05 AM

Mirage, hands down. Even if physical violence is mute (which I don't think it is) think of the fridge horror.

Powder 03-30-2013 01:47 PM

Image, not Mirage. C'mon, get the hell outta here. Donny gets his shell crushed, Leo gets his hand chopped off, Raphael is shot in the face, Mikey starts banging a dinosaur. Raph goes to titty bars with Savage Dragon. They're killing people left & right. It's way darker than Mirage on a whole.

ObiWanFan4life 03-30-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1077745)
Image, not Mirage. C'mon, get the hell outta here. Donny gets his shell crushed, Leo gets his hand chopped off, Raphael is shot in the face, Mikey starts banging a dinosaur. Raph goes to titty bars with Savage Dragon. They're killing people left & right. It's way darker than Mirage on a whole.

Too Bad the Image comics sucked BIG TIME

Powder 03-30-2013 02:14 PM

Too bad your opinions aren't facts & are of no value. YOU sir suck big time.

Metropoliskid41 03-30-2013 02:32 PM

Yeah I would agree with Powder, definitely TMNT vol. 3 from Image comics + the Bodycount mini. I would say that was the darkest version by far, we saw the turtles all get pretty banged up physically in that volume & the tone is definitely much more mature.

The Image volume is a little different, but its also freaking awesome!

ObiWanFan4life 03-30-2013 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1077749)
Too bad your opinions aren't facts & are of no value. YOU sir suck big time.

Let Me Elaborate, The Image comics while darker than the Mirage ones, went OVERBOARD With trying to make it darker and as a result it takes you out of the experience.:x

Metropoliskid41 03-30-2013 02:39 PM

Not your taste, that's fine, that just mean they don't appeal to YOU. That doesn't mean they suck. They're still enjoyable comics, and this poll isn't on "what series you enjoyed most," its what is the darkest.

ObiWanFan4life 03-30-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41 (Post 1077759)
Not your taste, that's fine, that just mean they don't appeal to YOU. That doesn't mean they suck. They're still enjoyable comics, and this poll isn't on "what series you enjoyed most," its what is the darkest.

If they were such good comics, Why did Peter Laird WRITE them OUT OF CONTINUITY when he published Volume 4?

Cipher 03-30-2013 03:26 PM

Darkest as in "dark 'n' gritty"? Image's run, by far.

Darkest as in depressing/bittersweet? Mirage.

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12 (Post 1077762)
If they were such good comics, Why did Peter Laird WRITE them OUT OF CONTINUITY when he published Volume 4?

Because he wanted to write a personally enjoyable story unfettered by having to write around another creator's volume that he probably wasn't all that familiar with? He's been pretty open about that.

That, and while the Image series had a lot of great concepts and character work, let's not pretend it's slave to anything other than a whole lotta problematic '90s tropes. There's no way to talk about how good it is or isn't without taking it in context of its time period.

Now why the **** are you arguing about it like you have something to prove?

Galactus 03-30-2013 03:28 PM

Coming Out of Their Shells tour ; )

ObiWanFan4life 03-30-2013 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher (Post 1077771)
Darkest as in "dark 'n' gritty"? Image's run, by far.

Darkest as in depressing/bittersweet? Mirage.


Because he wanted to write a personally enjoyable story unfettered by having to write around another creator's volume that he probably wasn't all that familiar with? He's been pretty open about that.

That, and while the Image series had a lot of great concepts and character work, let's not pretend it's slave to anything other than a whole lotta problematic '90s tropes. There's no way to talk about how good it is or isn't without taking it in the context of its time period.

Now why the **** are you arguing about it like you have something to prove?

i don't know.:

Shreddhead 03-30-2013 05:18 PM

My money's on Image. I couldnt believe some of the things in there the first time I read though it, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Raph's face alone is enough to get my vote.

CyberCubed 03-30-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Turtles2k12 (Post 1077762)
If they were such good comics, Why did Peter Laird WRITE them OUT OF CONTINUITY when he published Volume 4?

PL wrote a lot of issues of Vol 1 out of continuity. It doesn't matter.

Image wasn't written out because of how it was, PL just wanted to continue Mirage the way he saw it.

Slade 03-30-2013 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1077745)
Image, not Mirage. C'mon, get the hell outta here. Donny gets his shell crushed, Leo gets his hand chopped off, Raphael is shot in the face, Mikey starts banging a dinosaur. Raph goes to titty bars with Savage Dragon. They're killing people left & right. It's way darker than Mirage on a whole.

I haven't actually read any Image yet, but ie read about this stuff happening. So yeah Image.

barbecue17 04-02-2013 09:22 AM

Ok, I'm not familair with the Image comic- when did it come out?

Jay $tarkiller 04-02-2013 10:55 AM

This actually makes me wanna buy some Image issues. Up until now I've only seen pictures of it, however never actually read a complete issue. I guess I'll have to make up leeway.:tgrin:

Half Sh3ll Hero 04-02-2013 11:14 AM

I'm going to have to say Image is darker because of the sheer violent and almost rated R nature. In terms of being buried in 'tropes the entire 90's was a huge effin' 'trope.

In terms of intelligence and psychological horror the Mirage comics really pack a punch. It just does a better job making me reflect on the issues that I read.


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