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CyberCubed 10-17-2013 12:55 PM

I must applaud the writers for making a show without a ton of mutants
 
The 4kids cartoon is probably the only series that did not introduce a ton of mutants for toylines as it progressed.

There were only two big mutant storylines, the "Notes of the Underground" mutants which resembled monsters more than mutants from Season 1 and 2, and then the mutant outbreak storyline in Season 4 which gave us another cockroach mutant and some random bug mutants. Bishop's forces managed to cure all of NYC from the mutant population. Likewise all the Notes of the Underground mutants were also cured and reverted back to their human forms.

So other than Leatherhead, there were no recurring mutants in this series. While I would have liked to see Slash in this show, I must say it was great to see a TMNT cartoon be as "mutant free" as possible.

Jeff 10-17-2013 01:49 PM

i love mutants, but i kind of agree. its much better than getting a new mutant every week like we are with the new toon.

TheSkeletonMan939 10-17-2013 02:11 PM

Yeah. I'm sure someone's going to come to this thread and say, "But season 4 was all about other mutants!"

Yeah, but there was one, good, solid reason for that: Bishop messed up with his 'alien invasion'.

In the new 2012 toon, each week some dumbass falls into mutagen and turns into a monster who's never seen again (Spider-Bytez, for example; I doubt we'll see him again until it's time for another filler episode).

CyberCubed 10-17-2013 02:27 PM

And the thing is all of Season 4 hardly had any mutants either, it was only for one 4-episode plotline. Most of Season 4 dealt with a whole bunch of other stuff.

Jeff 10-17-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1168505)
Yeah. I'm sure someone's going to come to this thread and say, "But season 4 was all about other mutants!"

Yeah, but there was one, good, solid reason for that: Bishop messed up with his 'alien invasion'.

In the new 2012 toon, each week some dumbass falls into mutagen and turns into a monster who's never seen again (Spider-Bytez, for example; I doubt we'll see him again until it's time for another filler episode).

i was so excited to hear Lewis Black, too. such a let down.

Xav 10-17-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1168494)
So other than Leatherhead, there were no recurring mutants in this series.

Do the Dark Turtles count? They were clones of mutants.

Powder 10-17-2013 04:26 PM

We all know it was Pete, not the writers, who kept it relatively mutant free.

CansecoBat 10-17-2013 04:35 PM

What's the difference between "less mutants" and chessy, over the top "aliens", abundance of sci-fi and "mysticism"? haha. Bastardizing gritty Mirage story lines, by infusing them with "trying to be cool" sci-fi plot themes and devices.

Technogeek29 10-17-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CansecoBat (Post 1168564)
What's the difference between "less mutants" and chessy, over the top "aliens", abundance of sci-fi and "mysticism"? haha. Bastardizing gritty Mirage story lines, by infusing them with "trying to be cool" sci-fi plot themes and devices.

So was this necessary Alliance?

Jester 10-17-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29 (Post 1168569)
So was this necessary Alliance?

Funny, I was gonna call CyberCubed the "Nick Alliance", because he's a freakin' broken record on the whole "Mutant of the Week" BS.

CansecoBat 10-17-2013 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29 (Post 1168569)
So was this necessary Alliance?

Huh?

Alliance with who? What are you talking about?

Technogeek29 10-17-2013 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1168572)
Funny, I was gonna call CyberCubed the "Nick Alliance", because he's a freakin' broken record on the whole "Mutant of the Week" BS.

I agree I love the nick show but I always voice my complaints as opposed to what I like. assume I like it if I don't say anything.

CyberCubed 10-17-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CansecoBat (Post 1168564)
What's the difference between "less mutants" and chessy, over the top "aliens", abundance of sci-fi and "mysticism"? haha. Bastardizing gritty Mirage story lines, by infusing them with "trying to be cool" sci-fi plot themes and devices.

Aliens didn't show up that frequently in 4kids, what are you talking about? The Utroms, Triceratons and some one-off characters here and there? Most of the villains in 4kids were humans.

The Battle Nexus characters were from other planets or whatever but it all took place in a nexus dimension.

Coola Yagami 10-17-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1168605)
Aliens didn't show up that frequently in 4kids, what are you talking about? The Utroms, Triceratons and some one-off characters here and there? Most of the villains in 4kids were humans.

The Battle Nexus characters were from other planets or whatever but it all took place in a nexus dimension.

It feels like for every thread someone makes downing the 2K3 series... you feel obligated to make one in its favor.

Icebot 10-17-2013 06:26 PM

There were more mutants in Turtles Forever.

Like Tokka and Razar, some Purple Dragons.

Hun became one too, was he renamed Slash?

CyberCubed 10-17-2013 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1168631)
It feels like for every thread someone makes downing the 2K3 series... you feel obligated to make one in its favor.

Because there is a lot of misinformation going on around here.

Coola Yagami 10-17-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1168636)
Because there is a lot of misinformation going on around here.

There is no misinformation. It's people's different opinions that just don't coincide with yours. The show has come gone. Let it go. Noone cares. We have a new show now, we're all over that. The 80's show has released the full series on DVD not too long ago so we can look back at that, and it has all sorts of retro merchadise coming out including re-releasing some of the old figures. If anything, their upcoming cameo in the new series will further remind fans of that show.

Unless they re-release the 2K3 series seasons sets and start remaking Bishop figures and the like... this show is pretty much forgotten. Just let it the hell go.

CyberCubed 10-17-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1168640)
Unless they re-release the 2K3 series seasons sets and start remaking Bishop figures and the like... this show is pretty much forgotten. Just let it the hell go.

What exactly does that mean? We're not supposed to forget the 2k3 series as it is not only a good show to begin with, but also an important part of TMNT history.

You might as well say the IDW series is ignored since the Nick series is overshadowing that too.

Coola Yagami 10-17-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1168646)
What exactly does that mean? We're not supposed to forget the 2k3 series as it is not only a good show to begin with, but also an important part of TMNT history.

You might as well say the IDW series is ignored since the Nick series is overshadowing that too.

Unlike the 2K3 series however, the IDW series is still ongoing with no signs of slowing down. The 2K3 is just forgotten and out of the public eye, save any time Nick decides to rerun Turtles Forever.

CyberCubed 10-17-2013 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1168648)
Unlike the 2K3 series however, the IDW series is still ongoing with no signs of slowing down. The 2K3 is just forgotten and out of the public eye, save any time Nick decides to rerun Turtles Forever.

It's ongoing because its new, that doesn't mean the casuals are paying any attention to it. The IDW series only sells around 17,000-19,000 copies of its issues a month, while the Nick show averages 2 million viewers per episode.

I bet most people following the Nick show don't even know IDW is publishing a new TMNT series.


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