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MikeandRaph87 01-18-2014 03:06 PM

The Guardians of The Galaxy Effect on Ninja Turtles Success?
 
The Guardians of The Galaxy release date is one week before the Ninja Turtles film will be released now on August 8th. I am curious if the move to attempt to make more profit or atleast against itself will be problematic as Ninja Turtles even if the more notable property will be ignored because of the Marvel label of GoTG. Captain Phillips did well with $215 million after debuting just one week after Gravity with its notably much larger 676 million haul. Obiviously one is a lesser hit but still just as buzz worthy. Will Ninja Turtles have that kind of steam or will it be able to go up against a Marvel label even if a lesser property and still have finacial success? Has any word on the proposed budget been made public at this point? That might just be key to profit. Thoughts?

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 01-18-2014 03:14 PM

Perhaps if the turtle film has good Word of Mouth (which both Gravity and Captain Phillips had), then it won't be too much of an effect.

And to be honest, I would think Ninja Turtles is a brand people are more familiar with than Guardians of the Galaxy.

xChri5x 01-18-2014 03:55 PM

Hellboy 2 opened one week before The Dark Knight. It got totally overshadowed and to this day still remains a really underrated film that under performed and never made it's budget back.

Edit: P.S. Del Toro would be the perfect director for a TMNT movie. Just watch Hellboy 2 and tell me I'm wrong.

bridgegrn 01-18-2014 10:54 PM

I always wanted Spike Jonze to direct a turtles movie. I feel like he would have completely nailed it.

turtlefanforever 01-19-2014 08:48 AM

Interesting question
 
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Originally Posted by xChri5x (Post 1197542)
Hellboy 2 opened one week before The Dark Knight. It got totally overshadowed and to this day still remains a really underrated film that under performed and never made it's budget back.

Edit: P.S. Del Toro would be the perfect director for a TMNT movie. Just watch Hellboy 2 and tell me I'm wrong.

That was the golden army one right? That movie was bada** ! But yeah I think TMNT is actually the bigger name in this one. I don't think it'll have a big effect at all. Movies are always released close to each other. The people that want to see it will.

Bob 01-19-2014 09:11 AM

I would say that, from a marketing standpoint, TMNT has more going for it. It will probably take the number one spot away from GOTG.

CyberCubed 01-19-2014 09:20 AM

TMNT won't do that well. Kids watching the Nick show will find the movie unrecognizable and older fans like us hate everything we hear about it.

MikeandRaph87 01-19-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 1197751)
I would say that, from a marketing standpoint, TMNT has more going for it. It will probably take the number one spot away from GOTG.

TMNT took #1 from 300 in its second week but 300 went on to make 211 to TMNT making 96 million. I think the budget might be key to its success. Some movies can't be predicted. Some don't. Or make only a few million whie others make milions more than expected. It might be wise for us to promote it amongst people we know whether it turns out to be a bust or surprisingly good. Its atleast got Shredder which has a benefit that Ninja Turtles III and TMNT did not have.

TigerClaw 01-19-2014 11:38 AM

Guardians of the Galaxy could have an effect on the sucess of TMNT depending on well its received, and how much it makes at the boxoffice on its first weekend.

If by any chance Guadians of the Galaxy remains #1 on its 2nd week which would be TMNT's first week, TMNT will do fine at the #2 spot.

Honestly, Those two are my most anticipated movies this year.

NinjaPug 01-19-2014 12:43 PM

I'm really curious to see how GotG does at the box office. We'll see how strong the Marvel brand is without a superhero or actor that the masses are familiar with.

I also don't think it'll hurt TMNT's box office at all. TMNT is a widely known franchise while GotG isn't. TMNT's box office will be fine it's opening week. You've got a new group of fans that will see it because of the Nick franchise. You've got hardcore Mirage fans that will see it despite the controversy simply because it's TMNT on the big screen. You've got fans of the OT that will see it. You've got fans that will see it just based on the nostalgic factor alone. You'll even have people see it because Michael Bay's name is attached as a producer ( these people don't know the difference between a director/producer).

Long term success will depend on the quality if the film obviously but it'll make money it's first week.

DONATELLO DUZMACHINES 01-19-2014 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xChri5x (Post 1197542)

Edit: P.S. Del Toro would be the perfect director for a TMNT movie. Just watch Hellboy 2 and tell me I'm wrong.

I've always thought the same! His use of pratical affects and love for creatures, I would love to see him do TMNT.

On the GOTG issue the box office is often unpredictable but based on the buzz surrounding each movie ill say GOTG is gonna have the upper hand. Ive heard nothing but positive feedback from people about GOTG production, and the exact opposite from TMNT, but im super stoked to see both and be there at opening day for both.

Warboss74 01-19-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1197796)
I'm really curious to see how GotG does at the box office. We'll see how strong the Marvel brand is without a superhero or actor that the masses are familiar with.

I also don't think it'll hurt TMNT's box office at all. TMNT is a widely known franchise while GotG isn't. TMNT's box office will be fine it's opening week. You've got a new group of fans that will see it because of the Nick franchise. You've got hardcore Mirage fans that will see it despite the controversy simply because it's TMNT on the big screen. You've got fans of the OT that will see it. You've got fans that will see it just based on the nostalgic factor alone. You'll even have people see it because Michael Bay's name is attached as a producer ( these people don't know the difference between a director/producer).

Long term success will depend on the quality if the film obviously but it'll make money it's first week.

I would think most people are familiar with Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, Zoe Saldana, and to a lesser extent Chris Pratt.

Bob 01-19-2014 02:15 PM

Another thing that TMNT has going for it, despite being a very successful and well-known brand with a big fanbase to boot, is that this will be the first live-action TMNT film in twenty years. I think people will go and check it out come opening weekend. Even if GOTG is the better film, TMNT has a lot more going for it.

NinjaPug 01-19-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Warboss74 (Post 1197808)
I would think most people are familiar with Bradley Cooper, Vin Diesel, Zoe Saldana, and to a lesser extent Chris Pratt.

The two biggest stars are voicing a tree and a raccoon. Will fans go see them do voice work?

Zoe Saldana isn't going to sell tickets.

I love Chris Pratt and think he'll be a big star after GotG and Jurassic World but he's not a big box office draw yet.

Marvel has been able to lean on well known properties (Hulk, Thor, Capt America) without having to use big stars to sell tickets. We'll see if they've developed enough cred as a studio when GotG and Ant-Man come out.

BabyTurtles 01-19-2014 02:20 PM

I'm not sure.....

but I don't know the guardians of the galaxy that well....and even though I know Marvel, I'd rather see TMNT (which is getting a lot of love lately)

chrisdude 01-19-2014 06:18 PM

It's not all star power and studio credibility. It could just look like a good movie, when the previews start rolling. Same for TMNT.

Zachatello00 01-19-2014 06:47 PM

Not sure it will affect things at all. Do people not see movies they want to see because of another movie they also want to see being released at the same time? That's what I call a double feature.

But, cyber cubed is right on.

MikeandRaph87 01-19-2014 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00 (Post 1197884)
Not sure it will affect things at all. Do people not see movies they want to see because of another movie they also want to see being released at the same time? That's what I call a double feature.

But, cyber cubed is right on.

I disagree. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) did just fine and holds up. As a preschooler I could tell a difference in Hamato Yoshi's pet rat avenging him as Splinter opposed to Hamato Yoshi being Splinter itself and it did not keep me away as the human foot over robotic and no Technodrome gang with Shredder. That being said as long as a healthy marriage of takes is presented it will left up to the acting and audience interest.

There may be no way of telling.Captain Philips did well but got the much lesser gross to Gravity. Just this weekend Ride Along shocked studio anaylists with just edging out the January opening ewcord while Jack Ryan failed to make 20 million,a notable franchise restarting with respectable actors(something Ninja Turtles lacks for the most part).

chrisdude 01-19-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00 (Post 1197884)
Not sure it will affect things at all. Do people not see movies they want to see because of another movie they also want to see being released at the same time? That's what I call a double feature.

But, cyber cubed is right on.

Sometimes, I don't see every movie I want to see. I wanted to see Captain Philips, but I REALLY wanted to see Gravity. And I never got around to seeing Captain Philips. But a lot of tickets aren't sold to people who want to see that certain movie. A lot of times people just decide to go see a movie on their day off, or for a date, or just something to do with their friends, and they choose one.

Coola Yagami 01-19-2014 07:49 PM

Guardians of the Galaxy is something I don't particularly care about and I really am curious how it will do in the box office. Other than Thor 2 alluding to it, and having word-of-mouth say it's related to the whole Marbel Movie Universe thing so therefore you MUTS watch it, and the possibility of Thaos as the bad guys... don't really think the average joe is gonna be all that excited about it.


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