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CyberCubed 01-29-2014 04:07 PM

The designs of the Turtles is proof to never trust Kevin Eastman
 
I love Eastman as a person and some of his contributions to the franchise are great, but man, he does not know "quality control" for anything.

I know he has no control over the franchise anymore, but the fact that he's so excited about bizarre designs for the turtles with nostrils and human clothing, white Eric Sachs shredder, and everything else is just sad.

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if Venus shows up at the very end of the movie to set up a sequel.

Retromute 01-29-2014 04:10 PM

All a matter of opinion.. How many threads do we need to see of people slagging the new look off....

Just wait until we see it or some actual pictures...

Im loving them all :D

BabyTurtles 01-29-2014 04:11 PM

I like them. :-?

maybe Kevin Eastman just has a different taste from yours?

we can't all like the same thing.

1984TMNT 01-29-2014 04:13 PM

You just repeat yourself over, and over, and over, and over again.......

Chris 01-29-2014 04:15 PM

Firstly, maybe Kevin Eastman's opinion is just different to yours . Remember, history has shown that he's generally quite open and accepting of new ideas and new takes on the TMNT.

Second, even if he isn't thrilled with the new designs he's currently a paid employee of Viacom, working on the IDW comics and consulting on the Nick series and the new movie (though we don't know how much real input he gets in the last two), he can't come out and say "they look terrible" in public even if he's saying it behind closed doors.

turtlefanforever 01-29-2014 04:29 PM

He just rolls with anything that's TMNT
 
His heart isn't in it anymore.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza 01-29-2014 04:30 PM

Why is Kevin Eastman the guy to "not trust" when we're discussing a MOVIE that an ENTIRE TEAM OF PEOPLE WORKING ON are the ones responsible for what will hit the screen?
And Eastman is just a consultant who had a day or two to shoot a cameo. Do you think he was on-set and "Ok"ing the sculpts and everything like Bryan Lee O'Malley being on set, everyday and working along side Edgar Wright on Scott Pilgrim?
Do you think Stan Lee is the guy the Marvel Cinematic teams go to for changes to the costumes and so on?

CyberCubed 01-29-2014 04:33 PM

The point is that Eastman constantly raves about it like its going to be awesome. He did the same thing with Next mutation.

Blossombrooks 01-29-2014 04:37 PM

Oh be serious. From what I've heard he's a kind man with a lot of time for fans. Are you actually calling the co-creator out on his integrity because you don't like the designs? That's low.

TurtleTitan97 01-29-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1203621)
The point is that Eastman constantly raves about it like its going to be awesome. He did the same thing with Next mutation.

Again, that's all just matter of opinion.

Leofan26 01-29-2014 04:39 PM

Just watch the series and ignore the films than like those Transformers fans did, imagine how much they hated those films they had to deal with? Ironically enough, Megan Fox was the female lead of that series, she's sure making herself well known with big time fandom's, so far not in a good way but yah know :lol:

MrTMNT2012 01-29-2014 04:43 PM

I think the designs are amazing and completely trust in Kevin Eastman! They were exactly exactly what I expected when he said they're looking to Rise of the Planet of the Apes for inspiration and it has a whole 'Avengers' feel to it. :)

Someone needs to teach the difference between facts and opinions to CyberCubed so we won't have pointless threads like this one in the future.

Walkabout 01-29-2014 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Leofan26 (Post 1203630)
Just watch the series and ignore the films than like those Transformers fans did, imagine how much they hated those films they had to deal with? Ironically enough, Megan Fox was the female lead of that series, she's sure making herself well known with big time fandom's, so far not in a good way but yah know :lol:

Welcome to our world.
Sound advice, at least there is the (awesome) Nick show that I wouldn't mind betting will end up being more popular than this movie anyway so hopefully not everything TMNT becomes BAYTURTLES like TF's :P

MST3KFan 01-29-2014 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Walkabout (Post 1203653)
Welcome to our world.
Sound advice, at least there is the (awesome) Nick show that I wouldn't mind betting will end up being more popular than this movie anyway so hopefully not everything TMNT becomes BAYTURTLES like TF's :P

So long as the Nick cartoon and IDW comics don't get forced to add hints of things from this new movie unlike the Transformers franchise has slowly been degrading into looking more and more like the movie appearances as time has moved on.

MikeandRaph87 01-29-2014 05:50 PM

I prefer Eastman's approach to Laird's approach. Laird's view is narrow and keeping it close to the Mriage comics while I grew up with the '87 cartoon and that is what I see as the Ninja Turtles to this day. Without the willness to expand the view and explore the franchise we would not be here today. Just a few comic book readers that found it in the back issues bins of a few comics shops and liked the random pick up. Granted I much rather ignore Next Mutation and Image as opposite ends of distaste, we would be given great avenues and great characters and concepts we would not othersie have. With Kevin we get Krang and Dimension X AND Triceratons and Fugtioid. With Laird's selling the intellectual rights to Viacom it was bittersweet. The bitter part is I like the careful nurturing of the characters while the sweet is the characters not original under him alone or Mirage based are ignored while a significant number of great characters are overlooked and affect quality and potential. Kevin's view may run into a brick wall i.e. the almost simultaneous crap shots called Next Mutation and Image it still has opened the door to much more good than bad. I am glad that once Peter stepped out Kevin stepped back in. Not nearly as Peter but it does give me a sesne of comfort that someone is carefully sheparding the franchise.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 01-29-2014 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012 (Post 1203635)
I think the designs are amazing and completely trust in Kevin Eastman! They were exactly exactly what I expected when he said they're looking to Rise of the Planet of the Apes for inspiration and it has a whole 'Avengers' feel to it. :)

Someone needs to teach the difference between facts and opinions to CyberCubed so we won't have pointless threads like this one in the future.


Well, they do look like Fugly apes with ugly ass nostrils. So no wonder he mentioned Rape of the Apes.

Shark_Blade 01-29-2014 07:44 PM

Looks fine to me.

xChri5x 01-29-2014 07:49 PM

I thought I could live with the designs from the maquettes, but the mock poster has me a bit worried. I don't like how the color on some of the turtles faces becomes beige around the mouth area. OOTS had something like that, which really annoyed me. Leo is the only one who is spared from this... but from that small picture of the maquettes, Raph and Mikey (unlike the poster) seem to be more green around the face...

ironman29758 01-29-2014 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1203750)
Looks fine to me.

This. While the designs aren't perfect they are pretty decent and different in a good way. I'll wait for a trailer and the movie before I judge the movie fully.

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! 01-29-2014 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1203621)
The point is that Eastman constantly raves about it like its going to be awesome. He did the same thing with Next mutation.

That is a very good point. I've thought the same thing about him thinking the Next Mutation was good. It was not btw.


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