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CyberCubed 02-09-2014 09:43 AM

Kraang episodes getting too repetitive?
 
Anyone else thinking a lot of the Kraang-centered episodes are getting too repetitive or too same-y? They all seem to follow the same forumla:

- Turtles discover a Kraang facility/base/TCRI/secret area

- The Turtles battle the Kraang almost the same way every time with the laser guns firing

- They discover only the slightest bit of new info of what the Kraang are up to

- The Kraang unleash some sort of mutant/alien/robot to battle the Turtles for the climax of the episode

- The Turtles escape and the ep ends on some sort of cliffhanger.


I was noticing this formula toward the end of Season 1 but didn't say anything because I thought the Kraang story would either end or progress after the finale, but now in Season 2 they're doing the same thing again. Anyone else ready for the show to move on past the Kraang already? I don't think they have to be around for the entire run of the show.

snake 02-09-2014 09:46 AM

Repetitive? Maybe. Enjoyable? Yes.

Coola Yagami 02-09-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1209829)
Anyone else thinking a lot of the Kraang-centered episodes are getting too repetitive or too same-y? They all seem to follow the same forumla:

- Turtles discover a Kraang facility/base/TCRI/secret area

- The Turtles battle the Kraang almost the same way every time with the laser guns firing

- They discover only the slightest bit of new info of what the Kraang are up to

- The Kraang unleash some sort of mutant/alien/robot to battle the Turtles for the climax of the episode

- The Turtles escape and the ep ends on some sort of cliffhanger.


I was noticing this formula toward the end of Season 1 but didn't say anything because I thought the Kraang story would either end or progress after the finale, but now in Season 2 they're doing the same thing again. Anyone else ready for the show to move on past the Kraang already? I don't think they have to be around for the entire run of the show.

Not really, no. In this version of the show, the Kraang basically started the show and basically all of April's main storyline revolves around it. This won't end til near the end of the series.

The main problem is this show's stupid plot amnesia. It's like that one ep that ended with them finding out the Kraang were after April and not her father. Why didn't they storm TCRI the very next episode isnstead of dealing with other crap? Same with Karai. Leo finds out she's Splinter's daughter... why don't deal with that the very next episode?

CyberCubed 02-09-2014 09:52 AM

A lot of these Kraang episodes are starting to blur together to me. I really hope there's more variety in the future.

Coola Yagami 02-09-2014 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1209842)
A lot of these Kraang episodes are starting to blur together to me. I really hope there's more variety in the future.

True, but what other episode was crawling with April clones? The basic plot is kinda similar, but other episodes also had Karai in them or the mutagen spill, or the Newtralizer. At least a little something to make em different enough.

CyberCubed 02-09-2014 11:37 AM

I've grown tired of the Kraang fight scenes but I can't think of any way they can improve them either so I dunno. I just dislike the infiltration scenes to Kraang bases play out almost the same way every time.

And then there's always a random mutant or robot thrown in at the end for the last 5 minutes.

pannoni1 02-09-2014 11:41 AM

Yes there are some similarities, but at least it's not yet at the level of the body of the OT, which was the simple "Krang/Shredder argues about something, Krang comes up with an idea, usually involving a gadget or some foreign alien, Krang sends off Shredder/Bebop/Rocksteady and/or the villain of the week, Turtles foil plans, Kraang sends additional assistance, Shredder/goons kidnap April/Splinter, Turtles head off to the rescue, goons get defeated via slapstick humor, Turtles rescue April/Splinter and often escape a final attack, Krang says "Oh no" and has a fit and blames Shredder that it was all his fault." Sure that was repetitive, but found ways around it to still be fun to watch. Today's Nick episode was no exception with all of the funny humor, attack patterns, and a new side-ally named Kutzman. As it is it does have SOME repetitiveness, but I still found today's episode enjoyable to watch, and was surprised that no dimensional portal opened unlike in the Season 1 finale. The relationship between the Kraang and the Foot is still fuzzy and are still pretty independent of each other. Yes, I feel April Derp wasn't a good choice for a villain, but I feel the young kids liked this episode more than the more hardcores. I'm sure there's more tricks coming since we're not even halfway through this season.

NinjaPug 02-09-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1209839)
The main problem is this show's stupid plot amnesia. It's like that one ep that ended with them finding out the Kraang were after April and not her father. Why didn't they storm TCRI the very next episode isnstead of dealing with other crap? Same with Karai. Leo finds out she's Splinter's daughter... why don't deal with that the very next episode?

This is my main issue with the show. I know they want to have arcs that go throughout the season/series instead of multiple part episodes to allow viewers to jump in at any point but the way they just ignore huge plot developments for 8-9 episodes without even mentioning it is ridiculous.

Powder 02-09-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1209839)
Not really, no. In this version of the show, the Kraang basically started the show and basically all of April's main storyline revolves around it. This won't end til near the end of the series.

The main problem is this show's stupid plot amnesia. It's like that one ep that ended with them finding out the Kraang were after April and not her father. Why didn't they storm TCRI the very next episode isnstead of dealing with other crap? Same with Karai. Leo finds out she's Splinter's daughter... why don't deal with that the very next episode?

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1209982)
This is my main issue with the show. I know they want to have arcs that go throughout the season/series instead of multiple part episodes to allow viewers to jump in at any point but the way they just ignore huge plot developments for 8-9 episodes without even mentioning it is ridiculous.

That's not fault of the writers, that's Nick. Ciro often expresses his disappointment with them airing episodes totally out of order via Facebook.

NinjaPug 02-09-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1210075)
That's not fault of the writers, that's Nick. Ciro often expresses his disappointment with them airing episodes totally out of order via Facebook.

Nick has only aired them out of order by 1 episode though. It's not like they're moving one of them 7 episodes up in the order.

- Splinter learned that Karai was his daughter in 126. He tells Leo about it in 202. Seven episodes later and there hasn't been another mention of it.

- The Turtles learn in 117 that the Kraang want April. They do a little more with that in 125/126 only to take 8 more episodes until they revisit it. Who knows when they'll advance the Kraang/April story again.

I do understand why things are spread out like this: 1) they're not going to reveal big things every episode 2) they only have 22 minutes per episode and don't have much time to touch on things that aren't pertinent to that specific plot.

Karai Samurai 02-09-2014 05:37 PM

YES! I just posted this in the episode discussion thread. I feel like the writers have run out of ideas with the Kraang. Who knows? April's revelation might make them interesting again.

I also feel like all of the Kraang creatures (besides Leatherhead and maybe the Newtralizer) have been boring mutants of the week. They're always really large, silent, and brutish fighters. All of them - Traag, Justin, April derp, butt canon monkey a la Mutation Situation - were pretty useless besides being an enemy for the turtles to fight.

Rukitron 02-09-2014 06:32 PM

The kraang are a kinda dull and there was a missed opportunity of having the turtles fight goons in the elevator.
Heck even there Technodrome was boring compared to the crazy mobile fortress we got in OT. I sure hope the possible MK2 has a more imposing and crazy design.

Jester 02-09-2014 06:52 PM

There's definitely a pattern, but there's enough variation to keep it interesting.

drgon78 02-09-2014 06:56 PM

No, but the whole foot clan thing got old to me long before this series and if all we saw in the first season was the foot I would have stopped watching ages ago.

Shred87 02-09-2014 07:01 PM

Definitely a little repetitive but I'm content to let this play out and see if the payoff is worth the wait? I imagine some are noticing the repetitiveness because we are all anxious to find out what's going to happen... In that sense I think the writers are doing their job... Hopefully this pans out

Donatello19 02-09-2014 07:14 PM

It can get repetitive sometimes, yeah, but I really like The Kraang, so I don't want to see them go. Some more variety would be nice, however.

CyberCubed 02-09-2014 08:14 PM

I'm honestly forgetting what differentiates these episodes anymore aside from the different mutants. It's such lazy and tired writing.

How many times are the Turtles going to find some Kraang base, battle through lasers, fight some random mutant, and then escape with some tiny info.

Half the show is like this now.

BabyTurtles 02-09-2014 08:24 PM

welp...as soon as we get done with the kraang plot the sooner we con focus on FOOT NINJA!!

I'm ready for the mystical part of the show! *_*

Technogeek29 02-09-2014 08:29 PM

My bro pointed out that the forums seem to like episodes where we don't learn anything about Karai or April. Or at least we rank them the highest.

CyberCubed 02-09-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29 (Post 1210209)
My bro pointed out that the forums seem to like episodes where we don't learn anything about Karai or April. Or at least we rank them the highest.

Uh, that's not true. I like episodes that further the plot, its just every Kraang episode plays out the same way with only the smallest plot advancement possible.

It's gotten dull.


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