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ninja-zero 03-28-2014 11:28 AM

Where's Oroku Saki?
 
What happened to Oroku Saki? The REAL Shredder!?

TrickOrTreater 03-28-2014 11:32 AM

Chances are he doesn't exist.

Been some speculation he's the REAL Shredder over in Japan while Sachs is just American branch.

Been some speculation that Sachs is the reincarnation of Oroku Saki who lived in Feudal Japan.

I'm picking the "he doesn't exist" one.

sethmartin 03-28-2014 11:34 AM

Also, in an excruciatingly boring interview with the writer of the film, he was asked about Oroku Saki in which he replied, "Perhaps we will, perhaps not, perhaps we will perhaps you all up the perhaps."

Andrew NDB 03-28-2014 11:35 AM

Some possibilities, for those so inclined to care:

A) Just as Erich Sachs might be a host to Krang now, once upon a time Oroku Saki might have been a host to Krang as well.
B) Oroku Saki could be a historical figure from Feudal Japan that was inspirational to Erich Sachs. Possibly seen in some manner of flashbacks.
C) Oroku Saki could have been Erich Sachs' direct mentor. Perhaps Erich Sachs killed him and assumed his identity.
D) If there is a Japanese branch of the Foot, he may be its leader. Karai is in the movie, after all.

I'm betting one of the 4 options there. Oroku Saki will be name-dropped at the very least, I'm sure.

sethmartin 03-28-2014 11:41 AM

What about Hamato Yoshi? How is he and Splinter connected?

TrickOrTreater 03-28-2014 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sethmartin (Post 1238213)
What about Hamato Yoshi? How is he and Splinter connected?

No guarantee he's in the movie either.

Candy Kappa 03-28-2014 11:50 AM

Eric Sachs = Eriku Saksu = Oroku Saki

Eric Sachs is the movieverse version of Oroku Saki.

ToTheNines 03-28-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1238216)
Eric Sachs = Eriku Saksu = Oroku Saki

Eric Sachs is the movieverse version of Oroku Saki.

Exactly. People keep pulling crazy theories out of their assess.

CyberCubed 03-28-2014 11:52 AM

The scumbags made him into white man Eric Sachs.

Every Asian person in the world should be morally offended.

sethmartin 03-28-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1238218)
The scumbags made him into white man Eric Sachs.

Every Asian person in the world should be morally offended.

Ha ha I like how your avatar is a pissed off Oroku Saki lol

sethmartin 03-28-2014 12:03 PM

So what's Splinter's name going to be? Hamilton Young?

bwwd 03-28-2014 12:05 PM

erich sachs is obviously americanized oroku saki, so hes just american guy with no martial aerts skills at all and his army of masked cliched warriors with guns

NYShell 03-28-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1238209)
D) If there is a Japanese branch of the Foot, he may be its leader. Karai is in the movie, after all.

I saw a Karai type lady in the trailer with foot gear, but do we know for sure that's her?

electric_sheep 03-28-2014 12:28 PM

Erick Sach is Whitewashed Oroku Saki, that's closest thing to real Oroku in this universe.

Candy Kappa 03-28-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NYShell (Post 1238227)
I saw a Karai type lady in the trailer with foot gear, but do we know for sure that's her?

The closest I know is that her Lego figure have been labeled Karai in the Lego wiki page, and they tend to have the right names for upcoming sets.

But, that's as far as I've invested time in that subject.

CyberCubed 03-28-2014 12:35 PM

I'm surprised Karai wasn't renamed Katherine and turned into a hot blonde instead.

gutterpunk13 03-28-2014 12:41 PM

I believe that "The Shredder" of the new movie is going to be like the Shredder in the 2003 cartoon where he is the ancient spirit of Oroku Saki.

Eric Sachs will be obsessed (or Possessed) with the ancient Shredder to the point of trying to become him. (rebuilding the foot, super Shredder armor etc etc. The name Eric Sachs is just to throw people off.

I expect the Shredder spirit will be resurrected either by Sachs or is a planned movie Sequel.

Called it.

sethmartin 03-28-2014 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gutterpunk13 (Post 1238246)
I believe that "The Shredder" of the new movie is going to be like the Shredder in the 2003 cartoon where he is the ancient spirit of Oroku Saki.

Eric Sachs will be obsessed (or Possessed) with the ancient Shredder to the point of trying to become him. (rebuilding the foot, super Shredder armor etc etc. The name Eric Sachs is just to throw people off.

I expect the Shredder spirit will be resurrected either by Sachs or is a planned movie Sequel.

Called it.

Yeah this sounds good. But what about Splinter?

gutterpunk13 03-28-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sethmartin (Post 1238249)
Yeah this sounds good. But what about Splinter?

If I am correct and I would not mind it if they did it like IDW where splinter and the turtles were reincarnated.

But I seriously doubt that.

I suspect that Splinters Japanese culture and ninja training will be a result of the mutation, as someone said before like the matrix.

However it could also be that Eric Sachs is using ancient Japanese DNA to experiment on resurrecting ancient Japanese remains. in the process he mutates/resurrects a rat named Hamato Yoshi. All hell breaks loose the rat escapes into the sewers with a broken Mutagen canister and four baby turtles.

thesaintofkiller 03-28-2014 01:27 PM

This whole change from Oroku Saki to a white rich business man villain reminds me a lot of Fox' treatment to Doctor Doom in the 2005 fantastic four movies. People were hoping, even at the last second, that there would be more to it than meet the eyes. There wasn't.

And there won't be in this case either. Don't kid yourself. It's a white Shredder with a really dumb change of name. It's the same thing Michael Bay always does. It's the EXACT same thing as what Fox did to Doctor Doom. It lacked imagination back then and it still does today.

Years later, we still laugh at how badly Fox handle that movie. And we will do the same with this new Shredder. There's nothing more to it.

All those speculations do is remind us how badly they are handling one of our favorite villain.


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