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samxsteal 04-25-2014 10:27 PM

TMNT STUNTS and MARTIAL ARTS
 
Hank Amos ... stunt co-coordinator
Matt Emig ... stunt double: Master Splinter
Jonathan Eusebio ... fight coordinator
Jim Ford ... stunt double: The Shredder
Daniel Graham ... stunt double: Raphael
Brendon Huor ... stunt double: Master Splinter / stunts
Jeremy Marinas ... stunt double: Leonardo / stunt double: Michaelangelo
Kimmy Suzuki ... stunt double: Minae Noji
Don Thai Theerathada ... fight team
Luis Tolentino ... skateboard stunt double: Michelangelo
Jon Valera ... stunt double: Leonardo / stunt double: Michelangelo
Just to name a few
http://www.jimaford.com/stunts.php









For those who
Whatched this

The guy playing leo is one of the poeple working on THIS MOVIE

AquaParade 04-25-2014 10:44 PM

Great thread. Just want to throw that out there.
We should all aspire, myself included, to backing up our thread's with visual's/examples, when possible!

TigerClaw 04-25-2014 10:46 PM

Interesting, Brendon Huor who plays Leo in that TMNT Style video is the stunt double for Splinter. I wonder how that works since Danny Woodburn played Splinter and he was short. Unless they scaled up the character so that he appears taller? He kind of looks Taller from the animated GIF

http://i.imgur.com/WcbShxB.gif

And also Splinter has two stunt doubles.

samxsteal 04-25-2014 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1254263)
Interesting, Brendon Huor who plays Leo in that TMNT Style video is the stunt double for Splinter. I wonder how that works since Danny Woodburn played Splinter and he was short. Unless they scaled up the character so that he appears taller? He kind of looks Taller from the animated GIF

http://i.imgur.com/WcbShxB.gif

PLuss im not to sure that they are strictly set to those Characters, if you get what im saying?

Like if they need a Nunchaku guy chances are they're going to use the Nunchaku guy not someone who is subpar, the guy who plays leo the the human turtles is obviously a great swordsmen and martial artist, chances are they will use him when necessary.

As for the CGI and mocap, Think planet of the apes or gollum and Andy Serkis He plays an ape and while they are large they are not human size. They even use a special "Crutch" to use for when they Apes are walking on all Fours, but you cant tell that once you see the film, Mocap is just used to get a wire frame in which to animate from These thing could be scaled up down or made to look wider longer Etc think the turtle are mocaped Alan in 6'2" and raph is 6' give or take, but he looks wider and while Alan is ripped his not as large as raph.

TigerClaw 04-25-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal (Post 1254269)
PLuss im not to sure that they are strictly set to those Characters, if you get what im saying?

Like if they need a Nunchaku guy chances are they're going to use the Nunchaku guy not someone who is subpar, the guy who plays leo the the human turtles is obviously a great swordsmen and martial artist, chances are they will use him when necessary.

As for the CGI and mocap, Think planet of the apes or gollum and Andy Serkis He plays an ape and while they are large they are not human size. They even use a special "Crutch" to use for when they Apes are walking on all Fours, but you cant tell that once you see the film, Mocap is just used to get a wire frame in which to animate from These thing could be scaled up down or made to look wider longer Etc think the turtle are mocaped Alan in 6'2" and raph is 6' give or take, but he looks wider and while Alan is ripped his not as large as raph.

The question is, How tall will Master Splinter actually look on the film. If he fights the Shredder, Hes gonna have to be tall enough to twirl that sword around.

samxsteal 04-25-2014 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1254270)
The question is, How tall will Master Splinter actually look on the film. If he fights the Shredder, Hes gonna have to be tall enough to twirl that sword around.

true and yet from the trailer he looks much shorter

Puddinpop 04-25-2014 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal (Post 1254251)
hank amos ... Stunt co-coordinator
matt emig ... Stunt double: Master splinter
jonathan eusebio ... Fight coordinator
jim ford ... Stunt double: The shredder
daniel graham ... Stunt double: Raphael
brendon huor ... Stunt double: Master splinter / stunts
jeremy marinas ... Stunt double: Leonardo / stunt double: Michaelangelo
kimmy suzuki ... Stunt double: Minae noji
don thai theerathada ... Fight team
luis tolentino ... Skateboard stunt double: Michelangelo
jon valera ... Stunt double: Leonardo / stunt double: Michelangelo
just to name a few
http://www.jimaford.com/stunts.php



for those who
whatched this

the guy playing leo is one of the poeple working on this movie

DAAUUMN !!! LMAO!! This just got me even more pumped for this!!!! Holy COW!!

samxsteal 04-25-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puddinpop (Post 1254281)
DAAUUMN !!! LMAO!! This just got me even more pumped for this!!!! Holy COW!!


thats what im saying

DevilSpooky 04-25-2014 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1254263)
Interesting, Brendon Huor who plays Leo in that TMNT Style video is the stunt double for Splinter. I wonder how that works since Danny Woodburn played Splinter and he was short. Unless they scaled up the character so that he appears taller? He kind of looks Taller from the animated GIF

And also Splinter has two stunt doubles.

It's the wonders of CGI, just look at the guy playing Gimli on the lord of the rings, he's the tallest actor in the cast and play the shortest character, also, Andy Serkis played King Kong...

Puddinpop 04-26-2014 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal (Post 1254285)
thats what im saying

I think this is my favorite thread ever lol. These guys look pretty capable of pulling off some badass Fight sequences if you ask me lol. The thought of seeing our beloved fearsome four fighting with this much intensity makes me boil over inside. That first video of Splinters stunt double is my favorite! Thanks for posting dude

samxsteal 04-26-2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Puddinpop (Post 1254304)
I think this is my favorite thread ever lol. These guys look pretty capable of pulling off some badass Fight sequences if you ask me lol. The thought of seeing our beloved fearsome four fighting with this much intensity makes me boil over inside. That first video of Splinters stunt double is my favorite! Thanks for posting dude

Your welcome Im just getting upset with all this Oh they wont even come close the this kind of stuff, the Evidence is right there. We just haven't seen it yet im sure we will. IM pretty sure the reasons we havent seen any yet are 1 Haven't finished CGI, and 2 want to save most of the action for the movie(which i think is smart)

Puddinpop 04-26-2014 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal (Post 1254306)
Your welcome Im just getting upset with all this Oh they wont even come close the this kind of stuff, the Evidence is right there. We just haven't seen it yet im sure we will. IM pretty sure the reasons we havent seen any yet are 1 Haven't finished CGI, and 2 want to save most of the action for the movie(which i think is smart)

Yea I agree.. I am hoping that we do see something along these lines in this new trailer next week. Even if its a small amount. I think we will : ) .. Bc I don't think anyone will feel better until they actually see the Turtles fighting like that and I could understand that. But the fact that they're hiring stunt doubles and fight choreographers / coordinators with that kind of talent is a good sign.

snooz 04-26-2014 01:48 AM

This is a great thread, but I recall some of these videos being posted a long time ago. Not saying anything about posting them again, I'm glad you did, but what I'm saying is that I don't understand why so many people on this forum insist that there will be no martial arts in this movie. Just HULK SMASH.

That is ridiculous. Having seen these and other videos long ago, it was pretty obvious that they will have some excellent martial arts fight scenes in this movie. I am extremely excited. This is going to be far more NINJA than the ninja turtles have ever been before

Puddinpop 04-26-2014 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by snooz (Post 1254319)
This is a great thread, but I recall some of these videos being posted a long time ago. Not saying anything about posting them again, I'm glad you did, but what I'm saying is that I don't understand why so many people on this forum insist that there will be no martial arts in this movie. Just HULK SMASH.

That is ridiculous. Having seen these and other videos long ago, it was pretty obvious that they will have some excellent martial arts fight scenes in this movie. I am extremely excited. This is going to be far more NINJA than the ninja turtles have ever been before

Amen to this ^. I think after seeing these doubles in action that we will see these turtles fight like they've never fought before. With great fury and intensity! I just don't see them hiring these guys just to stand around. Another thing I noticed was Mikey's skateboarding stunt double! O hell yea lol

Bry 04-26-2014 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by snooz (Post 1254319)
but what I'm saying is that I don't understand why so many people on this forum insist that there will be no martial arts in this movie. Just HULK SMASH.

Is anyone really insisting that? Nobody can know for sure until the movie's actually released. But all we've actually seen so far has been "Hulk Smash" kind of stuff, so it's pretty normal, and realistic, to base early judgments and speculation off of what we've actually been shown.

If there is some good martial arts action and fight choreography in this movie, then that's great! But if they would show a little of it in the previews -- and not even much, just a tiny bit -- people wouldn't have a reason to doubt that aspect of the it or get into negative speculation. The studio is the one marketing the movie - they're not entitled to the general public's good faith here, it's their job to sell us on it. The fact that so many people are so critical and doubtful of this movie says that they're not doing that job as well as they should.

graphic_content 04-26-2014 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bry (Post 1254379)
The studio is the one marketing the movie - they're not entitled to the general public's good faith here, it's their job to sell us on it. The fact that so many people are so critical and doubtful of this movie says that they're not doing that job as well as they should.

I'm in the stoked crowd...but this point was well made. For all this talk about having faith in the film (which I still do), I didn't stop to think that the studio isn't entitled to it, from fanboys or the general public.

But to that end...in an effort to market to the general public, I think that's why we've seen the scenes we have because it worked for them marketing Transformers, so I betting they think why not go the same route with the Turtles...mind you, I'm not saying that's a good way to go, but just exploring a possibility.

Warhorse 04-26-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by graphic_content (Post 1254395)
I'm in the stoked crowd...but this point was well made. For all this talk about having faith in the film (which I still do), I didn't stop to think that the studio isn't entitled to it, from fanboys or the general public.

But to that end...in an effort to market to the general public, I think that's why we've seen the scenes we have because it worked for them marketing Transformers, so I betting they think why not go the same route with the Turtles...mind you, I'm not saying that's a good way to go, but just exploring a possibility.

I will also point out, TMNT is getting a lot of flack because Michael Bay is the producer, and his name is the one that keeps popping up, so I guess maybe the internet, magazines and critics tribute his name with the new movie, perhaps what brought people into see the Transformers was because it was being produced by long time beloved director Steven Spielberg. Granted, I am one of the general audience, and my ticket was bought at the thought of gigantic alien robots causing havok, but I'm pretty sure Spielberg's name was just the icing on the cake.

trikuza 04-26-2014 03:01 PM

Those dudes have mad skills! I hope they can do some of those crazy flips with a motion capture shell on their back though, lol.

Candy Kappa 04-26-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1254270)
The question is, How tall will Master Splinter actually look on the film. If he fights the Shredder, Hes gonna have to be tall enough to twirl that sword around.

Since a Katana is scaled after a person's size, he should be able to wield a katana properly scaled for his size, ie twirl it like the gif. My sword instructor's sword is considerably shorter then the size I'd use, handling one of her older swords, it was about the same size as a short sword would be for me.

A katana should be the size of the arm + shoulder to shoulder for the person using the katana.

And if a katana properly sized to a four feet something humanoid rat is too far of a believable stretch, he could always just use a Wakizashi, or a Kodachi.

SwiftNinjaFox 04-27-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1254501)
Since a Katana is scaled after a person's size, he should be able to wield a katana properly scaled for his size, ie twirl it like the gif. My sword instructor's sword is considerably shorter then the size I'd use, handling one of her older swords, it was about the same size as a short sword would be for me.

A katana should be the size of the arm + shoulder to shoulder for the person using the katana.

And if a katana properly sized to a four feet something humanoid rat is too far of a believable stretch, he could always just use a Wakizashi, or a Kodachi.

My vote would be he has a wakizashi that just looks like a katana due to his size. A katana CANNOT be properly scaled for his size to me. Why? Because I just don't see the turtles having their own forge and smithing their own steel weapons.

;)


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