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shinefra 07-06-2014 11:29 PM

What’s with the lame Rocksteady and Bebop designs?
 
Hi, guys just wanted to ask if somebody knows why classic Bebop and Rocksteady aren't more accurate to the cartoons series?

I mean look at this merchandise they look pretty crappy, is there a Copy rights issue of some kind with the Fred Wolf series?

http://hottopic.scene7.com/is/image/...06_hi?wid=1360

http://i0.wp.com/thefwoosh.com/wp-co...-card-back.jpg

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/038...g?v=1404312061

Powder 07-06-2014 11:32 PM

It's not a copyright issue. Those are the Mutatin' action figure designs, & the art itself replicates art from the early 90's of the exact same style. I agree that it's kinda lame, though.

Candy Kappa 07-07-2014 03:03 AM

If only the toys at least looked like the artwork, they would at least be more consistent with the Classics Turtles figures.

Alas, I don't think Playmates care about consistency or representation when making figures for the Classics line.

Wildcat 07-07-2014 04:16 AM

They look ok just a bit more stylized to fit with the artwork.

The Mech versions look more accurate in that group T-shirt. Maybe they wanted to differentiate them.

Spidergreg 07-07-2014 10:18 AM

Who is that leopard guy above rat king?

rickwj324 07-07-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg (Post 1298563)
Who is that leopard guy above rat king?

I believe he is Jagwar from the Archie Comics and a part of the Mutanimals.

shinefra 07-07-2014 11:29 AM

So they just don't give a rats ass?, pardon me Splinter fans ;)

Man, when I saw the green t-shirt on my friend, I wanted to buy it instantly, until I noticed Bebop and Rocksteady looked nothing like the toons.

Are we ever going to get a Shredder, Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady figures just like in the show? :-?

Ninjinister 07-07-2014 01:14 PM

I want that top shirt so bad. So bitchin'.

The-Shredder 07-07-2014 11:57 PM

Yeah, why don't they just use the same stock art that was used in the 90s? The first Lionsgate DVD did a good job with that. Viacom didn't have to go out of their way just to redraw the characters and add gold rings to the Turtle's belt buckles and what not. Even their head shapes are somewhat off-putting.

ProactiveMan 07-10-2014 12:00 AM

Looks like they're doing the Monkey. Also, Bebop appears to be wearing nanna glasses - The placement of his ponytail makes it look like a spectacle chain.

TurtleGuy 07-10-2014 02:17 AM

Krang on the shirt in the 3rd pic looks kinda awesome, though.

I kinda like Rocksteady, too in the 3rd pic.

Metropoliskid41 07-10-2014 10:52 AM

These shirts are simply using the stock art from the era. Every character has that "close but not quite toon accurate" look. That isn't unique to just Bebop and Rocksteady, and it isn't unique to these recent shirts. That is literally almost identical to the stock art from the late 80's and early 90's. The turtles in that top shirt aren't toon accurate either, but they are identical to the design the turtles had on 99% of the merchandise released when the original toon was on the air. Just look at the member Wildcat's avatar (he posted above). That is an image from the late 80's, while it is definitely pseudo-OT looking, it is not Toon accurate. The stock art is just a little less detailed and more simple looking in design. The shirt is just using the existing stock art designs, and personally I love it!

The-Shredder 07-10-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41 (Post 1300576)
These shirts are simply using the stock art from the era. Every character has that "close but not quite toon accurate" look. That isn't unique to just Bebop and Rocksteady, and it isn't unique to these recent shirts. That is literally almost identical to the stock art from the late 80's and early 90's. The turtles in that top shirt aren't toon accurate either, but they are identical to the design the turtles had on 99% of the merchandise released when the original toon was on the air. Just look at the member Wildcat's avatar (he posted above). That is an image from the late 80's, while it is definitely pseudo-OT looking, it is not Toon accurate. The stock art is just a little less detailed and more simple looking in design. The shirt is just using the existing stock art designs, and personally I love it!

Oh, okay. I was thinking of the Family Home Entertainment VHS cover art, which I think are much better drawn than what we have now. https://web.archive.org/web/20120306...hs_classic.htm

Metropoliskid41 07-10-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The-Shredder (Post 1300598)
Oh, okay. I was thinking of the Family Home Entertainment VHS cover art, which I think are much better drawn than what we have now. https://web.archive.org/web/20120306...hs_classic.htm

Its probably easiest to just look at examples side by side for a comparison, below are 4 pretty popular TMNT stock art images that were used on pretty much every TMNT items in the late 80s and 90s:
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps65aae5d1.jpg

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps73b8fead.jpg

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps35656f3b.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psad7c2cc1.jpg

Metropoliskid41 07-10-2014 02:13 PM

Compared to actual screen caps of the cartoon from the same time period:
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psba37f3cb.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3afcf5a7.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps16fbf039.jpg

And you see that while the stock art resembles the cartoon look it is still distinctly different. The stock art turtles have different shaped heads, and shorter, puffier, and less defined limbs.

mexichrist83 07-12-2014 05:08 PM

I'm not particularly fond that artist's TMNT artwork which sucks because it's used on A LOT of "retro" TMNT merch these days and it's really crappy. I much prefer the TMNT artwork below:

http://www.teesforall.com/images/TMN...Gray_Shirt.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5TT4qUh7xw...0/IM000295.JPG

http://nerdexp.com/wp-content/upload.../05/TMNT-2.jpg

Does anyone know who the artist is for this TMNT art?

Powder 07-12-2014 07:35 PM

I believe they're all done by Ryan Brown.

Xav 07-12-2014 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metropoliskid41 (Post 1300709)
Its probably easiest to just look at examples side by side for a comparison, below are 4 pretty popular TMNT stock art images that were used on pretty much every TMNT items in the late 80s and 90s:
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps65aae5d1.jpg

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps73b8fead.jpg

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...ps35656f3b.jpg
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/...psad7c2cc1.jpg

What the **** is with that second image? The Turtles colors are all messed up.

Newton Gimmick 07-14-2014 12:32 AM

Rocksteady and Bebop have been depicted like this for years on some random merchandise. I never quite understood why they didn't look a bit more like their figures or cartoon counterparts, but it's no big conspiracy. Just a case of slightly off artwork that was used for licensing.

I actually really like the Rocksteady design.

Whatswiththeheadbands? 07-14-2014 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1302303)
What the **** is with that second image? The Turtles colors are all messed up.

Mikey is the only one they got right.:lol:


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