Hypothetical: How would you handle the next reboot if we don't get a sequel?
 

Whether you like this film or not, it leaves us in a precarious situation with TMNT on the big screen should this film not do well enough to make a sequel.

If the next creative team goes with an origin story, it might seem rehashed following up a previous origin story film. What elements do you think you could put off in hopes of a potential sequel, and what elements are a must have?

If they do a soft reboot sequel, how much of the first film are they going to have to retcon before they're better off just starting from scratch? What are the most important elements that you feel should be fixed in this scenario? What are the least?

If this situation presented itself, how would you handle the next reboot? How would you face the issues presented and/or additional issues for your reboot?

I know I've posted this before, but I actually wrote a fan-casting/mini-treatment for a TMNT movie several months ago.

i DOnt want a reboot at this point i Love the actors Involvedd to much I think slight changes are except-able Like changing leos voice back Minor character add more character and such
all the actors in this movie do a great job of playing their character Jeremy, Noel, Pete, Alan, Danny, Tohoru Masamune, All did fantastic i want to see more from them not someone else everything else can change(even thought i loved Johnathan's take and dont really want to see him leave) I still wan't Kevin working on the movie and giving insight, But this movie really does deserve a sequel

Sorry but if this movie doesn't produce a sequel. We will not see another live movie about tmnt in the next 20+ years, lets be real.

And how its looking a sequel is kinda a stretch.

Kill off Megan Fox, focus on turtles, bring in bebop and rocksteady, make shredder a utrom and show people dimension x, and a longer movie with more character building and no corny jokes.

The one thing they haven't tried at this point: a proper adaptation of the original comics by a real director with a passion and a vision for an original take on the material with enough Hollywood clout to not have to kowtow to Playmates and focus groups.

But that's never going to happen.

I haven't seen the "film" that's out right now, but what you describe would pretty much be the worst thing imaginable... which means that's probably exactly what we're going to get in TMNT Part 6.

I would start by hiring a talented production company, screenwriter and director and not ones that think bigger and flashier equals better.

Adapt City at War into a movie. Make it a loose continuation of the first 4 movies.

April/Casey grow apart, Karai and the Foot go to war, and Rat King debuts in the movies. It's win/win.

I'd go with a more traditional design in terms of accessories and size of the turtles. The foot wraps, belts/straps, arm wraps, elbow/knee pads, possibly some bracer/forearm armor or shoulder armor for them, a little variety between them on that gear. Proper plastron and the shell bridge on the sides. Toss up on full CG vs mix of traditional make up and CG, depends on what you could do there.

If it was a full reboot, and I've got supreme control in this fantasy thought experiment, I'd probably go with a Batman Begins approach of a full film focused on the origin. From whatever Yoshi/Saki angle you choose to go with to the mutation and actually spending time exploring different stages of their youth and training. The overall conflict I'd go with would be the original goal of bringing down Shredder, though it might be developed with that being a clear end-game goal of a trilogy rather than having a one-and-done Shredder story or a defeat and "I didn't die" sequel.

Developing it as a working your way up to the criminal kingpin rather than going straight after him from the start.

I'd draw heavily on IDW for some things. Bebop and Rocksteady being nasty, mean, gangland style infantry level that prove to be the best in terms of the last 2 standing to be selecting for mutation. Making them serious dangerous threats but clearly the muscle with someone like Karai directing them.

And outright ninja vs ninja. I want the 100 foot soldiers vs Turtles & Splinter martial arts brawl with a ton of choreography. I didn't feel like we got the martial artist vs martial artist in the new movie too much. Gimme a scene like the end of 2007's TMNT, only with a full fight.

I'd love to see the Mirage Leonardo vs the Foot sequence for Shredder's return while the others are getting ready for Christmas. But I'm biased there...I just want them to show that Leo's a bad ass in his own right for a change. ;)

And no damn noses or nostrils!

Oddly enough, I came out not even minding that. That was actually the least of my problems.

In the opening of the movie tell the backstory of Saki and Yoshi and how the Turtles came to be...

Yoshi would flee Japan after being framed for his masters death by Saki. He heads to NY to start a new life and does ok for a few years until one night on his walk home from work a truck gets sideswiped and hits him into a pet shop. The trucks back door gets jarred lose and a canister falls out onto Yoshi and a rat next to him that was released from a cage in the shop. He then gets up from the hit he took as the truck flees the scene. To his horror he is covered in ooze and sees a turtle bowl knocked over into the same green substance. He grabs the turtles and heads home to rest and bandage his wounds. The next morning to he sees that his body is changing and starts to look like a Rat. He becomes afraid and goes to the hospital but when he arrives he is chased out by a cop.

Yoshi now knows that he can not go back to work so he grabs his personal items and heads to an abandoned warehouse with the turtles who have also now doubled in size. Overtime he and his Turtles train but as the turtles grow bigger Yoshi decides they must head down to sewer to hide from the world. The Turtles end up calling Yoshi Splinter as a super hero type nick name because he is so gifted as a fighter.



I would Have April going to college to become a news reporter while working part-time for a Prof. Stockman on campus for a while. At some point she finds out he is crazy so he sends the Mousers after her. When that happens she takes off running into the subway where she can be safe but is cornered by the Mousers. She ends up being saved by the Turtles.

Around that time The Shredder finds out that Yoshi is still alive because of the symbols found in the city by the Foot Ninja that were left by the turtles. Shredder wants to end what he started with Yoshi in Japan so he sends out his men to hunt him down. Around the middle of the story one of Shredders street thugs (Human Bebop or Rocksteady if you want) find a Mouser trying to break into a bank so they grab it and take it to Shredder.

Shredder decides to seek out Stockman to force him to make more robots for the foot to help take out the big crime families and to find his old foe. Stockman tells him they where made for military use but that they were never picked up for use so he decided to rob the city Banks instead. The Shredder tells him he will give him all the money he wants as long as he and the mousers serve his needs.


The movie would end with a huge multi-roof top fight with Splinter and the Turtles vs. Shredder and the Foot Ninja. The Turtles send Shredder flying with a final strike.

Shredder is now laying in an alley near death about to die from the fall off of a rooftop when out of nowhere a drill module rises from under ground. A stone-like man picks him up and puts him in the module and tells his boss Lord Krang on his communicator that man is still alive.


That's a rough outline for what I would want.

Can I just watch this movie?

Well, a lower budget animated kids movie? Or maybe allow someone who wants to direct a TMNT movie do so instead of hiring paycheck director like Liebesman?

I know it will never happen but I would like an animated adaptation of the Turtles in Space arc or an anthology style Tales of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie.

I don't think a worse movie could possibly get put out, so I would handle it well, I think. I definitely want a reboot more than a sequel. Before seeing the movie, I thought that a sequel may have potential, but not anymore. Knowing what kind of stuff would get carried over into the second one makes me lose all hope, even more if they keep the same people on board for writing/directing.

Or it won't happen in our lifetimes. Man, who knew waiting for the next Ninja Turtles movie would make you reflect on your own mortality...

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3494/3...052681f27f.jpg

LOOK. LOOK AT THEM.

Wrong, species, but sure, nostrils aren't the real problem.
EDIT* Actually, that's a tortoise. If you're gonna throw stones...

Don't make Shredder the villain of the first movie. Make him the Emperor of this series.

It's chelonian, and all chelonians have nostrils.