The Technodrome Forums

The Technodrome Forums (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/index.php)
-   TMNT Movie Discussion (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32)
-   -   Is Raph the main hero? ***Movie Spoilers obviously*** (http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=48811)

Spidergreg 08-10-2014 11:55 PM

Is Raph the main hero? ***Movie Spoilers obviously***
 
Eventhough Leo is the leader but they made Leo the weakest in the movie.

Leo was the first to be captured. Leo was always in trouble and hurt and the others gotta go save him (example, during the snow chase scene).

Raph on the other hand, is the only turtle not to be captured.
Has to go save the other turtles.
More screen time with Vern + April during the rescue.
Raph delivered the finishing blow to Shredder in buck buck.

and finally, Raph is the only turtle to get a Turtle in Disguise figure.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...wL._SY300_.jpg

thoughts?

oldmanwinters 08-10-2014 11:57 PM

"Raphael--he's the leader of the group..."
-Partners in Kryme (1990)

Coola Yagami 08-10-2014 11:59 PM

I just remembered!!! That whole bit with Raph being in the trenchcoat was never in the movie!!!

ScrewtheMirageTMNT 08-11-2014 12:01 AM

April is the real hero of the movie.

Midnight Mutant 08-11-2014 12:08 AM

I think this was going to heavily be a Raph based movie originally. I think due to the re-writes and time, it's a lot less of a Raph based movie than I thought it would be. That's probably why he seems to have more focus.

However, I think it's more of an April movie than a Raph movie. Either it was that way originally, focused around Raph and April working together to get his brothers back or it was a last minute panic move to put a celeb name front and center for a success back up plan.

ryukenden 08-11-2014 12:14 AM

Raph didn't exactly have as much screen time as he did in the 1990 and the '07 movie. The Turtles actually spent more time together than independently. April was the one with the most screen time.

Werecat 08-11-2014 12:18 AM

Actually I doubt this is a Raph movie.
-The captured turtles saved themselves with the help of April.
-Leo saved April and Vern.

Raph didn't really contribute that much through out the film. Nor did Raph get more film time then the other turtles. Leo got an adequate amount of film time. Most of the film just focused on April.

Coola Yagami 08-11-2014 12:19 AM

Yep... just go right ahead and ignore my post everybody.

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werecat (Post 1329311)
Actually I doubt this is a Raph movie.
-The captured turtles saved themselves with the help of April.
-Leo saved April and Vern.

Raph didn't really contribute that much through out the film. Nor did Raph get more film time then the other turtles. Leo got an adequate amount of film time. Most of the film just focused on April.

Because Raph was busy battling Shredder man to man.
OF COURSE Raph was never meant to beat Shredder, 'cos if he did, he would be the most powerful character and the movie would be broken.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1329313)
Yep... just go right ahead and ignore my post everybody.

Must have been edited out.

http://static.squarespace.com/static...se-preview.jpg

http://static.squarespace.com/static...597/raphd1.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MdV_gDwpGr.../Turtles+2.jpg

Werecat 08-11-2014 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg (Post 1329317)
Because Raph was busy battling Shredder man to man.
OF COURSE Raph was never meant to beat Shredder, 'cos if he did, he would be the most powerful character and the movie would be broken.

That doesn't get rid of the fact that Raphael didn't contribute at all in this movie besides Kicking Shredder in the face. The only ones who contributed was April, Vern, Leo, and Donny. It is not really a Raph movie because he contributed so little.

IndigoErth 08-11-2014 12:58 AM

Well, in his defense Raph did at least pull Splinter out of the rubble and take him to a safe room to wait for them to return. After April couldn't move a chunk of concrete that did not look like it should have really been too heavy to move at least enough.

Werecat 08-11-2014 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1329335)
Well, in his defense Raph did at least pull Splinter out of the rubble and take him to a safe room to wait for them to return. After April couldn't move a chunk of concrete that did not look like it should have really been too heavy to move at least enough.

Seriously. Raph has only two motives to exist in the movie; to pull rubble off Splinter and kick Shredder in the face. This is...

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werecat (Post 1329343)
Seriously. Raph has only two motives to exist in the movie; to pull rubble off Splinter and kick Shredder in the face. This is...

You conveniently left out the fact that he rescued his brothers.
Whether or not he did it himself personally, doesn't change the fact his presence there allowed the other turtles to escape 'cos everyone knows april and vern alone won't be able to save the turtles otherwise, especially with Shredder being there.

Shark_Blade 08-11-2014 03:02 AM

The main hero is Vernon.

If it wasn't for him, April won't be able to get the mutagen, and without the mutagen she wouldn't have lured the Shredder away from the boys during the breakdown of the tower (they could've been killed even).

Hawkeye 08-11-2014 03:02 AM

The only reason Raph wasn't captured was because he was defeated when the other Turtles weren't.

Mikey seemed to get the most love, with Donnie and Raph next. Leo was under utilized.

ScrewtheMirageTMNT 08-11-2014 03:12 AM

It's nice that this version of raph had a more stealthier disguise. Unlike the 1990 movie version.

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1329388)
The main hero is Vernon.

If it wasn't for him, April won't be able to get the mutagen, and without the mutagen she wouldn't have lured the Shredder away from the boys during the breakdown of the tower (they could've been killed even).

Who is vernon?

Shark_Blade 08-11-2014 05:27 AM

This guy.

Aka Vern Fenwick. ;)

Spidergreg 08-11-2014 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1329439)
This guy.

Aka Vern Fenwick. ;)

That's Vern.
Not once did they call him Vernon.

Coola Yagami 08-11-2014 06:07 AM

Nickname maybe? But yeah. That was supposed to be Vernon.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:41 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.