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You think Shredder might come after Donnie?
This has been on my mind a lot since "The Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockman." Remember how when Stockman kidnapped April, she told him that Donnie had made retromutagen and could make him a batch to turn him back to normal? I wonder if he shared that information with Shredder?
I know the Shredder thinks that the Kraang will turn Karai back to normal, but I highly doubt that's high on their "To-Do List." Like Tiger Claw said, they care nothing about humans and could really care less if a few get mutated here and there. Heck, how do we know they weren't already mutating people before that whole shipment got spilled all over New York? So, who's to say they're going to keep their end of the bargain and help Karai? They've pretty much taken over New York, so I doubt even Shredder and his clan could face them. Shredder may discover that Donnie has successfully created a retromutagen from Stockman or one of his allies and organizes a kidnapping once they track down the Turtles. He either gets the Kraang to help him or maybe Tiger Claw (since he's a hunter and all) and gets Donnie, bringing him back to New York. This would also be a great way for the Turtles to decide to go back to New York to save Donnie. Also, let's say that before this happens, Donnie finally tells April how he feels and she...doesn't return the affections (We still don't know if those storyboards are real or not). This crushes Donnie's spirit and he goes off into the woods to be alone, only to be captured by Kraang or Tiger Claw and taken back to New York via portal. And, maybe while Donnie's captive, Shredder figures out that he has feelings for April and he's going through his own love triangle like the one he went through with Teng Shen. Maybe he tries to tempt him to the dark side? Hey, Leo was with the Foot in the comics for awhile and didn't Raph become Shredder at one point? Why not have Donnie sort of see a kindred spirit in Shredder? (Or at least make him believe that while he backstabs him or whatever.) I'm sure this won't happen, but I do have a feeling that eventually, Donnie's knowledge of retromutegen will attract some negative outcomes, whether from the Kraang, Shredder....or maybe the Earth Protection Force? |
would be wicked if that happened as a outcome on shredder trying to get Donnie on his side
I pretty much thought the same thing after he finished making the retromutagen and its bound to happen somewhere along the line, stockman was just the beginning of it |
I mentioned that it would be nice if everyone is after Donnie for retromutagen.
I wouldn't want Donnie to join Shredder for a reason that petty though. |
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I could see them having great interest in getting a hold of him, though I couldn't really see Donnie being persuaded if they tried to tempt him to join them willingly. I'm only loosely aware of the Leo story, though I believe there was brainwashing involved(?), I'm sure that would have to be the case with Donnie as well, he's too smart and good spirited otherwise.
One catch also however... Did Donnie use April's DNA in the actual creation of the retromutagen? They might have to be after her too in that case. Although if they succeeded they could use her as leverage to make him cooperate. |
Yes, the retromutagen does paint a big red target on Donnie's shell. I don't see Donnie turning to the Shredder's cause willingly. I mean yeah Shredder could maybe see or learn about Donnie's feelings for April and April supposedly having feelings for Casey. So Shredder could try and entice Donnie's jealousy, but Donnie is a better person then that.
And even if Donnie does fall for it, he knows the Shredder can't be trusted. So he could make retromutagen, but fail to add the key ingredient, April's DNA and obviously Shredder would want to test it out. So maybe Shredder tests it on Fishface turning him into Armagon. He's short sighted enough to test it on Donnie, but yet if he does that he doesn't have anyone to make the Retromutagen unless he has stockman take notes. |
I'm all for this. I know it's another Donnie centered plot so people will complain, but I'm a Donnie fan, so I say go for it :D
As far as a dark turtle, it'd be cool to see dark Donnie, but I think it'd have to be more of a mind control brainwashing thing rather than shredder persuading him. Would be interesting though, as opposed to having dark Leo who's a threat physically, I could see dark Donnie building all these weapons and droids for shredder, and using them against his brothers |
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Ah, instead of going for Leo, Shredder going for Donnie? How refreshing. :)
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I still wonder though if he can even use his normal retromutagen on perfected mutagen. Would he have to use perfected mutagen to create a retromutagen for the current set of Kraang mutants?
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And he can't easily cure Karai since her mutagen batch was "tainted" by Baxter Stockman.
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Hmm, that's an interesting concept. I don't know if this will happen in the future, but I don't know if Shredder will do that right away. He might wait and see if the Kraang help him first, and if they don't, then he could always kidnap Donnie and force him to make it.
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I'd love to see this. You don't really see a lot of Shredder/Donnie interaction. I'd watch this arc if we got it.
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Yeah, me, too. I think it would be awesome.
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But I wouldn't say Donnie was TEMPTED to join the Foot clan out of spite or revenge or whatever, but he may see an opportunity to set things right. If Shredder thought that Donnie would be crushed enough to give up on his family and turn to the Foot, Donnie could take this as an opportunity to become a sort of secret double agent. Splinter said in one episode that one of a ninja's best weapons is deception, so maybe if the offer were on the table and Donnie makes Shredder think that he's willing to join the Foot, he'd be able to not only take out the Foot, but the Kraang as well. He'd be able to have closer access to their plans and throw a monkey wrench in the works, so to speak. In order to do this, however, he'd have to go against his brothers and convince THEM he's joined the Foot as well. Another angle they could go would be just to get Donnie and threaten to torture him or whatever until he makes the retromutagen. Or maybe use a Kraang device to either search his mind for the answer (hey, if they can switch bodies with people...). Then once the retromutagen is in Shredder's hands.... Spoiler:
I thought I was going through Deja Vu. BTW, does anyone know how to do multiple quotes in a thread? There were other posts I wanted to address, but I didn't know how. |
Cool, Bitsy. Ciro and crew have already said that they like-- um, that character you mentioned. It was in the Comic-Con 2014 panel. So I could see that happening. That'd make one terrific arc. I say it's only a matter of time until we get that particular duo one way or another. Heck, we got one out of the two already.
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Can agree, wouldn't mind seeing the others have their own storylines with Shredder.
Unless I've forgotten something, I don't even get what this Shredder's deal is with Leo in the first place. Or is it simply that it is, as you mentioned, Warhorse, 'tradition'? I mean, he was so dead set on nearly destroying Leo in the finale, and then when the rest of them are right there on the other side of the bars and Raph is about to explode, Shredder's just "meh" and walks away. :-? Come on, you're Shredder, you kinda hate all of them and those bars probably aren't much of a barrier for you? The rest need their own personal vendettas on him after recent events. |
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