Major new twist based on casting?
 

Okay, I remember reading somewhere that Minae Noji, the actress who played Karai in the TMNT 2014 movie, will make an appearance in TMNT 2012.

Even if the source was wrong, I still have a theory; What if Teng Shen was actually alive?

I mean, that would bring such great conflict into the whole Shredder vs. Splinter rivalry. I know they said Saki killed Shen, but what if Shen wasn't really dead? That'd be such a great twist, though.

Maybe she is but she is their spirit guide during the vision quest?

I assumed that was an unconfirmed rumor.

Shes done a ton of voice acting work long before being Karai in TMNT 2014, She could be anything.
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I could see this. Tang Shen's spirit leading them. It'd finally give them a tie to "mom".

I remember reading that she said she was in it, and that her role was super secretive.

But even if she's not in it, what if Tang Shen is actually alive, though? It'd seriously be a game changer for the show.

I dunna....I'd rather dead characters stay dead.

That'd be cool but I'd rather she stay dead. Maybe they can do flashback scenes reflecting her point of view on the Yoshi/Saki relationship.

Ditto; if Shen weren't actually dead, it'd remove a lot of the impetus for the vendetta between Saki and Splinter. Even if she were around in spirit form, it'd allow for too much potential closure. Shen's death is the primary character motivation for Saki - it needs to remain unfinished business (IMO).

Was the show clear on how she died? Did she died when the building fall down or did she died when she step in on Oruku's killing blow that was meant for Yoshi?
It just hard to imagine that she would survive. I sure after the building collapse that Yoshi would tried to find Tang Shen's dead body so that he can give his dead wife a proper burial, but then again he thought Miwa was dead all these years so I guess it could happen.

Another thing that I want to know is the backstory on Tang Shen. How did this love triangle escalated into such a violent conclusion? Did she meet Oruku and Yoshi through the military? Was she simply a outsider or was she part of the Hamato clan or better yet she was originally part of the foot clan and was second command but was never really in love with the Shredder and left when she fell in love with Yoshi.

This foot clan theory might be more likely since foot clan itself has many people with different nationalities and honestly this is just a interesting and cool head canon for Tang Shen. You could sort of imagine the scenario if you watch Kill Bill with Tang Shen being Uma Thurman (aka the Bride).

I wouldn't mind seeing them do that in the story, but I kinda wouldn't want them to know who it was.... I dunno, I think letting the audience know it was her, but not them would be better. I could see her restless spirit watching over Yoshi, and learning about his change and knowing the boys that way. So she'd know them, but they'd be clueless about her. It would just be too much of a lifetime movie kinda thing if they knew she was there, and they had a mom for a bit and laa de daa...

My thought on this vision quest is that Splinter will show up. He's been down in the sewers for weeks - months now. Surely he's woken up and figured out his bearings. He might do a lil old movie mind-tap with Leo during a meditation session... This is what'll get them back to city more than anything else.

I got the impression that she was part of the Hamato clan/village, and that she died when the building caught on fire and collapsed... that's just my perception though, I could well be wrong.

True. I do like that better.

I really wish that we can get a flash back episode of how things turn to what it is today. I really want to have episode of Yoshi and Saki's lost boy years when they were in the military of maybe even them as children.

I always have this idea that Splinter when he was a kid, he was a cross between Mikey and Raph. He would be charming and charismatic but he would this fiery temper that would get him into trouble, especially with his dad.

I really want to explore that aspect of their relationship as brothers and for them to really act like brothers because there would a sense tragedy knowing use to be a genuine relationship between the two of them. We are told they were brothers but I want them to show it so it would have more meaning.

We saw Teng Shen's body in Hamato Yoshi's arms. My guess is she was mortally wounded by the Shredder during the fire. And she could have been saved if she had recieved medical attention right away, but she is crushed by the burning building.

Miwa wasn't found but baby's are mostly cartaliage so her body would have been mostly ash if she had died in the fire.

I never knew that. That's good to know.:teek:

I honestly don't know how I'd feel if Tang Shen came back. Honestly, I think it'd be better if she stayed dead, but I would like to see her in a role, kind of like the IDW Tang Shen.

I'm hoping she comes out voicing Mona Lisa, Ninjara or Alopex, But chances of that ever happening? Doubtful.

I'd prefer Tang Shen stay dead. Nick is already juggling so many other loose ends that they really don't need another, and her death fuels half the plot. Bringing her back to life would just be messy.

However, I find the concept of her returning as a spirit or vision for a single episode mighty appealing. I feel like Splinter's made about as much peace with her death as he's ever going to, so if she appears to anyone, I'd like it to be Karai (even if she's still in her mutated state).

Karai's got to have a wickedly confusing mix of emotions at the moment: On top of the obvious ones, I think she'll have a lot of guilt about having served Shredder for so long, even though that was hardly her fault. It'd be sweet of Tang Shen could appear in some form and help soothe her frenzied mental state a bit.

I doubt Shen's alive as it seems Shredder actually killed her with her blades, but I'd love to see her come back in a spirit form. Maybe after the Turtles contact Splinter and go through their vision quests, she possibly could guide them through them. I think that would be pretty cool.