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LeotheLateBloomer 01-22-2015 05:34 AM

Disney's "influence" on Marvel movies
 
I have a friend who has a narrow-mindset who tells me that he has a friend that works at Marvel who is supposedly telling him that Disney is the one responsible for ruining the Marvel movies. This baffles me because for one thing, he has not watched any of the Marvel movies because this friend of mine has a vendetta against Disney.

I really need you guys' help to convince him otherwise. Do you think that it is Disney's fault that Marvel movies are "screwed up"?

ZariusTwo 01-22-2015 06:46 AM

Marvel movies irk me to some extent, but in the mind's eye of the general populace so far they are not all that "screwed up", and generate the necessary bucks. Could they be better? Yes, but you take what you can get, there's always a later opportunity (and patience is rewarded, like with Winter Soldier)

TigerClaw 01-22-2015 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1410012)
I have a friend who has a narrow-mindset who tells me that he has a friend that works at Marvel who is supposedly telling him that Disney is the one responsible for ruining the Marvel movies. This baffles me because for one thing, he has not watched any of the Marvel movies because this friend of mine has a vendetta against Disney.

I really need you guys' help to convince him otherwise. Do you think that it is Disney's fault that Marvel movies are "screwed up"?

sounds like he wants Marvel movies with Oscar caliber acting and stories in them.

I don't like how some people, in there mindset, They only wanna see good acting in movies and such, They should just enjoy them for what it is, entertainment.

The Marvel movies are done in such a way, That even the non comic book fans can enjoy them.

This isn't just about pleasing the comic book fans, But the average person who has never read those comics.

NinjaPug 01-22-2015 08:39 AM

Define "screwed up"?

I also don't think Disney is involved to the level your friend thinks.

BabyTurtles 01-22-2015 10:56 AM

I don't think they are screwing up...

in fact can Disney make more animated marvel movies please~

TigerClaw 01-22-2015 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles (Post 1410081)
I don't think they are screwing up...

in fact can Disney make more animated marvel movies please~

I'm sure they will, Big Hero 6 did pretty well and its based on a Marvel comic.

LeotheLateBloomer 01-22-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug (Post 1410049)
Define "screwed up"?

I also don't think Disney is involved to the level your friend thinks.

As in responsible for the Marvel movies' directions in comedy, tone, and everything. Even says the comics have been going downhill because of Disney. Also, saying they messed up the Amazing Spider-Man and X-Men movies when we all know that is the work of Sony and Fox. He hasn't even read the comics or watch any Marvel movies besides Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1 and 2, and the first 2 X-Men movies. He's literally annoying me with this mindset of his. He would tell you that his only source is his friend who works at Marvel. :roll:

Amaranthus 01-22-2015 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1410012)
I have a friend who has a narrow-mindset

If you don't like him why is he your friend?

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1410012)
I really need you guys' help to convince him otherwise.

Why do you need to convince him? Is he not allowed to have an opinion you don't agree with?

sdp 01-22-2015 02:45 PM

I'm sure as much as Disney let Marvel and Pixar and now Lucasfilms do their own thing and run "separate" as they say you can bet they have a much bigger role making decisions than what they say they do. We've seen plenty of reports come out that say otherwise. I wouldn't say they screwed up Pixar or Marvel though, I don't think pre-Disney owned Pixar/Marvel were that much different.

TigerClaw 01-22-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1410172)
I'm sure as much as Disney let Marvel and Pixar and now Lucasfilms do their own thing and run "separate" as they say you can bet they have a much bigger role making decisions than what they say they do. We've seen plenty of reports come out that say otherwise. I wouldn't say they screwed up Pixar or Marvel though, I don't think pre-Disney owned Pixar/Marvel were that much different.

Lucasfilms released there own animated film called, Strange Magic, But its gotten a lot of bad reviews. its 20% on rotten tomatoes at the moment.

IndigoErth 01-22-2015 03:43 PM

So terrible that Guardians of the Galaxy was a (the?) top dog last summer?

I dunno, sounds to me like your friend may have done this out of some chosen "loyalty" thing. If that's his schtick then might not really be any convincing him.

ZariusTwo 01-22-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1410156)
Even says the comics have been going downhill because of Disney.

The comics have gone downhill because the writers are hacks, the editors are lazy, and event fatigue has pissed off the audience

TigerClaw 01-22-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1410224)
The comics have gone downhill because the writers are hacks, the editors are lazy, and event fatigue has pissed off the audience

Speaking of event fatique, Marvel is planning another one, Earth 616 and the Ultimate Universe are gonna come to an end, Everything you knew about them, will cease to exist, Marvel is creating a new universe. Its basically a new 52 style reboot. Its gonna combine elements of 616 and Ultimate Universe into one.
http://marvel.com/news/comics/23961/...wars_last_days

LeotheLateBloomer 01-22-2015 07:58 PM

I didn't want to admit this but "my friend" is actually my younger cousin. It's my younger cousin who has a hatred for Disney. I love him but he has a mindset where if someone tells him something he likes, he is easily convinced.
He will flat out say that GotG is horrible without watching it.

Leo656 01-22-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1410031)
I don't like how some people, in there mindset, They only wanna see good acting in movies and such, They should just enjoy them for what it is, entertainment.

Y'know... if you swap just a couple words around, that statement becomes:
"I don't like how people appreciate quality. They should just settle for stupid things. None of it matters anyway."

It's not exactly what you said, but... actually yeah, that's exactly what you said. :lol: What a thing to say.

IndigoErth 01-22-2015 09:02 PM

Well I've got to say it's a valid point when considering the rest of the world is normally not allowed to be bad at their jobs. If someone is going to make limelight actor level of pay they could at least be good at their job.

ZariusTwo 01-23-2015 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw (Post 1410246)
Everything you knew about them, will cease to exist

In my mind, that already happened back in 2007 when Spidey said okie-dokie to Satan and reality was rewritten.

Darthknuxward 01-23-2015 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1410427)
In my mind, that already happened back in 2007 when Spidey said okie-dokie to Satan and reality was rewritten.

This. So much this.

Amaranthus 01-23-2015 01:15 PM

I'm not too keen on the Disney Marvel films, but they always manage to make their movies a decent way to kill time. That doesn't mean their movies are great though.

MsMarvelDuckie 01-25-2015 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1410156)
As in responsible for the Marvel movies' directions in comedy, tone, and everything. Even says the comics have been going downhill because of Disney. :roll:


Sounds like he hasn't even read any comics since 2007. Sorry, but Marvel comics started going downhill when "Joephisto" Quesada thought it would be a good idea to have Spidey make a deal with the devil. That was long before Disney ever even TOUCHED Marvel.


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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1410224)
The comics have gone downhill because the writers are hacks, the editors are lazy, and event fatigue has pissed off the audience


Yup. That about sums it up. Gods, I miss JMS and Peter David. Bendis is still good, though, isn't he??!


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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1410427)
In my mind, that already happened back in 2007 when Spidey said okie-dokie to Satan and reality was rewritten.


Yeah, I'd say that's what started the ball rolling downhill. I'd even venture to say the editing staff has basically torpedoed the comics just to cater to their own personal tastes.


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Originally Posted by Darthknuxward (Post 1410445)
This. So much this.


Ditto.


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